RDMS and winter

[sportse]

The issue is the systems are causing issues when people are completely switched on and having to fight them for control based on what the car wrongly believes is happening.

If the drivers were switched off, the car would have crashed already.

These are just with simple assistance systems - I dread to think what ‘self-driving’ would make of the roads and traffic in the South.

[Jazzik]

So far I have in over 2 months and more than 3000 km. (some 2000 mi) not yet had to "fight" with the assistance systems. At most I had to "correct" gently a few times.

And remember YOU are driving, not some system that does indeed need some correction sometimes...

[sportse]

So far in 3 months / 5k miles:

RDMS has tried to send me towards oncoming traffic numerous times and goes off on straight roads.

ACC brakes for no reason when there are cars in other lanes. And has tried to slam me into the car in front in traffic.

LKAS has wobbled the car at high speed on a straight road.

Out of the 4 safety systems fitted as standard the only one that hasn’t really caused any issue is the CMBS.

I disable RDMS before every drive, never use LKAS and manually disable ACC when approaching cars.

[shufty]

So far in 3 months / 5k miles:

RDMS has tried to send me towards oncoming traffic numerous times and goes off on straight roads.

ACC brakes for no reason when there are cars in other lanes. And has tried to slam me into the car in front in traffic.

LKAS has wobbled the car at high speed on a straight road.

Out of the 4 safety systems fitted as standard the only one that hasn’t really caused any issue is the CMBS.

I disable RDMS before every drive, never use LKAS and manually disable ACC when approaching cars.

I'm not sure we've even bought the same car!

[Jazzik]

So far in 3 months / 5k miles:

RDMS has tried to send me towards oncoming traffic numerous times and goes off on straight roads.

ACC brakes for no reason when there are cars in other lanes. And has tried to slam me into the car in front in traffic.

LKAS has wobbled the car at high speed on a straight road.

Out of the 4 safety systems fitted as standard the only one that hasn’t really caused any issue is the CMBS.

I disable RDMS before every drive, never use LKAS and manually disable ACC when approaching cars.

[sportse]

So far in 3 months / 5k miles:

RDMS has tried to send me towards oncoming traffic numerous times and goes off on straight roads.

ACC brakes for no reason when there are cars in other lanes. And has tried to slam me into the car in front in traffic.

LKAS has wobbled the car at high speed on a straight road.

Out of the 4 safety systems fitted as standard the only one that hasn’t really caused any issue is the CMBS.

I disable RDMS before every drive, never use LKAS and manually disable ACC when approaching cars.

I'm not sure we've even bought the same car!

It’s very strange- perhaps there are different software versions around?

Some people have no issues and others have loads of problems.

[Kremmen]

In my case I take pride in my driving and I adapt to all conditions to make my drive as smooth as possible. All my 3 Civics were p/x'd at about 30k miles and all 3 were still on original pads and tyres and even at that mileage they still had well over half left.

I don't want the car trying to adjust my chosen track or speed, especially when it's due to poor road condition.

Look at most of the Tesla issues that were diagnosed as 'unusual circumstances'.

[DWJazz2021]

Still low mileage but about to take it on the first long drive at the end of this week, 270 miles of mostly motorway and fast A road (each way).

Slightly nervous it’s going to go nuts at some point on that journey; so far I’ve only experienced the (lane keep?) as I drive down the same B road most days and have to cross the central line due to parked cars.

It’s also flashed the proximity thing while I was stationary at junctions and cars were crossing ahead of me (which is fine)

What I’ve not encountered is anything relating to breaking when you approach a stationary object (trial not error) and nor do the buttons near my right knee do anything when pressed (should they?), but I am seemingly able to turn a few things off using the steering wheel controls.

Any tips to check it’s all working as it should before I set off?

Thanks

[Jayt43]

Slightly nervous it’s going to go nuts at some point on that journey; so far I’ve only experienced the (lane keep?) as I drive down the same B road most days and have to cross the central line due to parked cars.

This is fast turning into a board where everyone is scared of their Jazz! For the time being we still control the machines, Honda Skynet has yet to be activated. Chill dudes! I for one love my new Crosstar!

[sportse]

Jazz is fine if you don’t use ACC or LKAS and disable RDMS - no need to worry.

[Jazzik]

....and nor do the buttons near my right knee do anything when pressed (should they?), but I am seemingly able to turn a few things off using the steering wheel controls.

Any tips to check it’s all working as it should before I set off?

Thanks

Maybe you already did but if not: check here https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/manuals-and-guides/honda-owners-manuals/_jcr_content/par1/textcolumnwithimagem_1653971839/textColumn/richtextdownload_90f/file.res/2021%20Jazz%20Owner%60s%20Manual.pdf a few things like Adaptive Cruise Control, Lane Keeping Assist System, Road Departure Mitigation. When (not) to use, how to switch on/off....

[DWJazz2021]

Jazz is fine if you don’t use ACC or LKAS and disable RDMS - no need to worry.

Recommend disabling for all journeys?

[sportse]

Jazz is fine if you don’t use ACC or LKAS and disable RDMS - no need to worry.

Recommend disabling for all journeys?

Yes, I do on mine every trip - the car is much more relaxing to drive.

I leave CMBS set on default settings as I haven’t had any issues with that, only the other 3.

[shufty]

Jazz is fine if you don’t use ACC or LKAS and disable RDMS - no need to worry.

Recommend disabling for all journeys?

...I don't recommend disabling them at all. In fact I use them on every journey.
There is a lot of scaremongering going on.
Drive it for yourself and make up your own mind.

[sportse]

Another load of new Jazz owners complaining about these ‘safety’ systems on the Reevoo feedback again:

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/jazz-hybrid/overview.html

40% of new Mk 4 owners on page 1 of the feedback site, linked from Honda’s own website, complaining about RDMS.

It’s likely that these will be seen by anyone considering buying a Jazz.