Lead Times

[jamjar]

The dealers normally get delivery from stock items in about a week from Honda. Add 2 to 3 working days for your dealer to do PDI etc depending on how busy they are.

[Kremmen]

I read in todays papers that older used cars are in high demand as there is a shortage of new cars.

Dear Honda

If you can ship a red MY22 Jazz EX to the UK I'll happily exchange it for my 2013 Civic EX Auto with only 25k on it.

 

[culzean]

I read in todays papers that older used cars are in high demand as there is a shortage of new cars.

Dear Honda

If you can ship a red MY22 Jazz EX to the UK I'll happily exchange it for my 2013 Civic EX Auto with only 25k on it.

 

Part of the shortage of older cars may be people buying them who do not want all the faff of the tech on newer cars.

[richardfrost]

I read in todays papers that older used cars are in high demand as there is a shortage of new cars...

Part of the shortage of older cars may be people buying them who do not want all the faff of the tech on newer cars.

There's probably some truth in that.

Also, people upgrading to the last reliable cohort of ICE engined cars before they are forced into buying BEV or hybrid cars, which they seem to distrust.

Bizarrely, my RAV4 Hydrid, which is now 5 years old, seems to be worth around 75% what I paid for it 4 years ago, as an ex Toyota company car. My local dealer is working really hard to persuade me to change. It's going in for a full service and MOT shortly. I shall have to steel myself.

[SteveM]

I read in todays papers that older used cars are in high demand as there is a shortage of new cars...

Part of the shortage of older cars may be people buying them who do not want all the faff of the tech on newer cars.

There's probably some truth in that.

Also, people upgrading to the last reliable cohort of ICE engined cars before they are forced into buying BEV or hybrid cars, which they seem to distrust.

Bizarrely, my RAV4 Hydrid, which is now 5 years old, seems to be worth around 75% what I paid for it 4 years ago, as an ex Toyota company car. My local dealer is working really hard to persuade me to change. It's going in for a full service and MOT shortly. I shall have to steel myself.

Just to add to that, after having been to a chunk of different dealers and brands over the last few days lead times are frankly getting silly. Mazda were on 16 weeks (assuming no problems) for an MX-5, BMW had a (yes, a) build slot for a 3 series in October and 1 series were December if you're lucky, more likely February. Add to that a lot of the tech options weren't being offered as they just can't get hold of them. The dealer I was at had a grand total of 5 cars in stock for sale and two vanished from the showroom in 24 hours. If you've got the right car right now and happen to want to change to something with availability you may be quids in. Manufacturers like Honda that plan to ship product in at certain times of year and are running promos to shift it can work out almost paying you to change.

[Saycol]

Pure speculation…..March and September have traditionally been the months seeing the largest volumes of new car sales because of the registration plate change. Honda clearly ship in bulk and hold finished goods stock in the U.K. and the ability to highly spec a car is more or less reduced to colour choice. This compares to European manufacturers where there is no inventory and everything is built to order.
So, and I am guessing here, it is possible Honda ship twice a year to the U.K. in bulk, maybe February and August to support the reg change sales. It would also explain why you can get a new car in a couple of weeks but if it is not in stock there is a 5 month wait.

[Kremmen]

No problem here.

MY22 EX inbound for 7th Sep 

[Derkie54]

No problem here.

MY22 EX inbound for 7th Sep 

And I bet it can't come quick enough for you 

[Kremmen]

TBH, I've been buying new cars, every 3 years since 1983 so the excitement doesn't get to me any more. I could have opted for 1st Sep but the 7th suits me better and avoids the new reg first week.

Also, my current 2013 Civic EX Auto is probably the best car I've owned and I'll be sorry to let it go but at just over 8 years old, and so far nothing's broken so a new car is overdue.

Retirement and subsequent low mileage helped me hang onto it this long.

Now to read the manual a few times as it'll be like reinstalling the PC.

[Saycol]

TBH, I've been buying new cars, every 3 years since 1983 so the excitement doesn't get to me any more. I could have opted for 1st Sep but the 7th suits me better and avoids the new reg first week.

Also, my current 2013 Civic EX Auto is probably the best car I've owned and I'll be sorry to let it go but at just over 8 years old, and so far nothing's broken so a new car is overdue.

Retirement and subsequent low mileage helped me hang onto it this long.

Now to read the manual a few times as it'll be like reinstalling the PC.

If you could have chosen September 1, then maybe my theory of August bulk deliveries from Japan is correct?

[Kremmen]

Red MY22 EX are in the country now.

Given the free 5 year servicing, warranty and HondaCare (min finance taken) and the extraordinary used prices, now is the time to strike.

[John Ratsey]

If you could have chosen September 1, then maybe my theory of August bulk deliveries from Japan is correct?

I don't know if Honda shares a boat with other Japanese manufacturers or if a boat will leave part of its load at Avonmouth and then proceed to a European port to unload the rest, but the car transporters can carry up to about 8,000 vehicles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll-on/roll-off . If you know the answers to the above uncertainties then you can work out how many deliveries per year are needed but I'm sure it's a lot more frequent than twice per year. There will be several months between when Honda Europe orders a batch of vehicles from the production line and when they arrive in UK. There may also be other decisions such as to stockpile the Jazz now because the transporters may be loaded with European HR-Vs once they start coming off the production line.

[Thingy]

I had a test drive and placed an order last Thursday 12 Aug. The car arrived at the dealer Monday 16 Aug and I am collecting next Monday 23 Aug. Jazz EX Platinum White.

[Kremmen]

Surprised you didn't wait for a Sep 71 plate, only 12 days away !

I could have had mine earlier but decided to wait till Sep and not the first week as that could be busy.

[Saycol]

Surprised you didn't wait for a Sep 71 plate, only 12 days away !

I could have had mine earlier but decided to wait till Sep and not the first week as that could be busy.

Out of interest, have you managed to identify any model changes between current model year 21 and the new car you will take delivery of in September?