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IanG

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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2021, 07:47:11 PM »
I think the Japanese Fit Luxe model has the illuminated vanity mirrors. I wonder if they are just missing bulbs in the non illuminated versions. Be interesting to see what’s behind the mirror lamp’s blanking plates.
In some markets, the headlamps are not LED and the centre, driver’s knee and rear side airbags are not fitted.
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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2021, 07:59:41 PM »
I wonder if they are just missing bulbs in the non illuminated versions.
My Volvo had only one rear foglight, but on inspection, I found I had only to push out a plastic plug and stick a bulb in the socket to have two rear foglights, like its upmarket sisters.

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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2021, 09:44:49 AM »
My 1.4 has a great engine for use around town with just enough power and no need to rev the engine.  It feels like a modern version of the old Austin/Morris 1.3 a series engine, but still the gearing is far too low and generally too close.  I wonder what the engineers were thinking of as it would pull far higher gearing. 

In the year that the MK1 came out, the K11 Micra ended production, a wonderful car that if not for rusty sills could be made to go on for ever with only 3 other minor quality issues.  Nissan were losing over £1,000 on each one and you can feel why when you drive it. Thick quality plastic, smooth light controls, an engine that pulls AND revs with a cam chain when most had cheapo belts fitted. The K12 was a major step down in quality(well it was a Clio in disguise) even if it had more space and gave 15% better mpg

The Jazz took Micra's place as the best small car and gave so much more space inside despite only being a few inches longer, higher and wider.  Nothing like as much fun to drive as the later 1.3 k11's with an anti-roll bar was like a Mini Cooper S to drive.  I was so sad to sell mine as I needed as estate.  Most die because of abuse and clean ones almost non-existent now. The Mk1 is now bargain basement motoring and unlike a few years ago when most were with their first, caring, mature owners, they show the scars of use with many being battered into submission as 2 cars used on school runs.

The styling is typical Honda of the period.  I had a Mk1 600 Transalp, similar simple lines where form follows function. A modern version of what Brunel or Bauhous alumni might have drawn up.  There has been little as far as I can see that has really improved on it since, as the MK2 went backwards in many areas.

I just wish the gearbox had better bearings and ratios!

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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2021, 12:24:39 PM »
I think the Mk2 was better-looking than the Mk1, but these judgements are subjective.  The bonnet profile looked more purposeful, although I don’t think it had a purpose.  I find the Mk3 cluttered, but the Mk4 seems to have cleaner lines.

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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2021, 01:08:28 PM »
but these judgements are subjective.
Personally, I don't think there is much to draw between them. Neither looks particularly attractive.

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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #50 on: March 31, 2021, 01:41:16 PM »
The K12 was a major step down in quality(well it was a Clio in disguise) even if it had more space and gave 15% better mpg

The K11 was a great little car. At least they retained the Nissan petrol engines for the K12, imagine if they had been fitted with the crappy Renault lumps.

As for the Jazz, I still prefer the looks of the mk. 1 to all the later cars - too many fussy angular details creeping into the design of the mk.2/3. The interior is perhaps a bit dated now, but much better quality materials than the later cars.

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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2021, 03:00:57 PM »
The mk1 Sport was always my favourite Jazz. The 2 was dull and the 3 was just the wrong shape. 4 Crosstar looks nice.

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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2021, 03:53:25 PM »
The mk1 Sport was always my favourite Jazz. The 2 was dull and the 3 was just the wrong shape. 4 Crosstar looks nice.

I saw a Sport for sale the other day, in that dark Purple and in fab condition - it looked great!

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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2021, 10:49:39 AM »
Having been used to a Mk 2 the Crosstar is s totally different drive. I usually drive steadily to maximize fuel use but yesterday I pulled out of a busy junction into a gap in the traffic and needed to get up to speed so put my foot down like I used to in my old car and it was like whoosh! Took me by surprise but very useful in those situations where you find yourself in a tight spot.

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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2021, 01:42:58 PM »
Having been used to a Mk 2 the Crosstar is s totally different drive. I usually drive steadily to maximize fuel use but yesterday I pulled out of a busy junction into a gap in the traffic and needed to get up to speed so put my foot down like I used to in my old car and it was like whoosh! Took me by surprise but very useful in those situations where you find yourself in a tight spot.
I quickly discovered the same - I wanted to overtake a tractor and found I was also overtaking the 60 mph speed limit. The battery and motor are capable of providing a short burst of power more potent than suggested by the 0 -60 mph figures (for which the engine has to do most of the work).
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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2021, 01:50:13 PM »
The mk1 Sport was always my favourite Jazz. The 2 was dull and the 3 was just the wrong shape. 4 Crosstar looks nice.

I saw a Sport for sale the other day, in that dark Purple and in fab condition - it looked great!

This was it, high on miles but looked very smart I think

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-Honda-Jazz-1-4-i-DSi-Sport-5dr-HATCHBACK-Petrol-Manual-/353432375939?nma=true&orig_cvip=true


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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2021, 07:42:55 PM »
From reading power specifications of the  Mk4 compared to the Mk3, the torque figures of the Mk4 are more than twice that of the Mk3, so it is not surprising that the initial acceleration ‘get up and go’ is much better.
Peak power is much the same, but it is torque that makes the difference.

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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #57 on: April 02, 2021, 10:02:52 PM »
That’s electric drive for ya. 100% torque from zero. The actual 0-60 of the new Jazz is 8.5s - the official 10s figure is just to placate the insurance companies.

John Ratsey

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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #58 on: April 02, 2021, 10:15:31 PM »
The actual 0-60 of the new Jazz is 8.5s - the official 10s figure is just to placate the insurance companies.
I wonder if 10s might reflect the worst case with the battery at the low end of the normal charge range in which case the power boost from the battery is significantly less than if the battery is at the high end of the charge range.
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Re: Your favourite thing about your Jazz?
« Reply #59 on: April 02, 2021, 10:19:24 PM »
The actual 0-60 of the new Jazz is 8.5s - the official 10s figure is just to placate the insurance companies.
I wonder if 10s might reflect the worst case with the battery at the low end of the normal charge range in which case the power boost from the battery is significantly less than if the battery is at the high end of the charge range.
But at that point the engine is driving the generator which is feeding power directly to the electric motor so charge level of battery has no effect.

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