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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2020, 07:26:33 AM »
(This "in exchange" for Osborne agreeing to allow the Chinese currency to trade on London' foreign exchange markets).

Is he back again?

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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2020, 08:14:18 AM »
HS2 is an EU mandated project anyway,  except we are expected to pay for it.

http://www.theeuroprobe.org/2015-088-hs2-controlled-by-eu-not-our-gov/

'However, following the European Commissionís proposals of 2011, Britain has no choice but to build the HS2 and then to bear the costs. Along with all the other Trans-European Networks, it is no longer a voluntary programme, but is obligatory.'

'This further loss of sovereignty within the European Union could explain why the UK Government is unwilling to admit that the HS2 plan is not theirs at all and that there is very little they can do to even alter the routes.'
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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2020, 08:49:56 AM »
HS2 is an EU mandated project anyway,  except we are expected to pay for it.

http://www.theeuroprobe.org/2015-088-hs2-controlled-by-eu-not-our-gov/

'However, following the European Commissionís proposals of 2011, Britain has no choice but to build the HS2 and then to bear the costs. Along with all the other Trans-European Networks, it is no longer a voluntary programme, but is obligatory.'

'This further loss of sovereignty within the European Union could explain why the UK Government is unwilling to admit that the HS2 plan is not theirs at all and that there is very little they can do to even alter the routes.'

How do they get away with publishing such nonsense?

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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2020, 10:17:48 AM »
(This "in exchange" for Osborne agreeing to allow the Chinese currency to trade on London' foreign exchange markets).

Is he back again?

No - when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer between 2010 - 2016.

From FT - January 2019

https://www.ft.com/content/c8afa24e-23dd-11e9-b329-c7e6ceb5ffdf


   "Londonís push to become a major trading hub for the Chinese currency is paying off, with trading volumes for the renminbi eclipsing those for the pound against the euro for the first time last year, according to a survey from the Bank of England.

The UK has been promoting London as a western centre for trading in renminbi, in the expectation that international usage of the Chinese currency will only grow. Trading volumes in the renminbi against the US dollar were $73bn a day in October [2018], while the euro traded just over $66bn against the pound that same month."

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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2020, 10:48:40 AM »
HS2 is an EU mandated project anyway,  except we are expected to pay for it.

http://www.theeuroprobe.org/2015-088-hs2-controlled-by-eu-not-our-gov/

'However, following the European Commissionís proposals of 2011, Britain has no choice but to build the HS2 and then to bear the costs. Along with all the other Trans-European Networks, it is no longer a voluntary programme, but is obligatory.'

'This further loss of sovereignty within the European Union could explain why the UK Government is unwilling to admit that the HS2 plan is not theirs at all and that there is very little they can do to even alter the routes.'

How do they get away with publishing such nonsense?

By that I hope you mean 'How do they the EU get away with publishing such nonsense?

http://www.saferail.nl/IO/IODOCS/RL_96-48+04-50+07-32_EN_interoperability-high-speed.pdf
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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2020, 11:49:18 AM »


How do they get away with publishing such nonsense?

By that I hope you mean 'How do they the EU get away with publishing such nonsense?

http://www.saferail.nl/IO/IODOCS/RL_96-48+04-50+07-32_EN_interoperability-high-speed.pdf
Nope. They meaning "theeuroprobe"

https://europa.eu/search/?queryText=HS2&query_source=EUNION&filterSource=europa_default&more_options_date=*&more_options_date_from=&more_options_date_to=&more_options_language=en&more_options_f_formats=*&swlang=en

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/4849/e0008041.pdf

Which organisation is secretive and which is transparent?

https://europa.eu/european-union/eu-law/legal-acts_en

https://europa.rs/images/publikacije/HTEUW_How_the_EU_Works.pdf

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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2020, 12:05:39 PM »
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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2020, 03:35:32 PM »
Breaking news
Javid resigns.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1227934903473446913

Surprisingly, even Sajid Javid has a limit to the humiliation he can stand.

Cummings is in charge of everything now. What was it about being ruled by unelected bureaucrats?

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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2020, 05:38:44 PM »
Breaking news
Javid resigns.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1227934903473446913

Surprisingly, even Sajid Javid has a limit to the humiliation he can stand.

Cummings is in charge of everything now. What was it about being ruled by unelected bureaucrats?
Unelected autocrat is even worse.

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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2020, 05:52:22 PM »
I suspect you will find that HS2 is actually a Chinese overseas aid project, funded by an overseas development loan from China, the trains will be built in China and the track will managed and operated by a joint venture between China National Railways and Hong Kong's Mass Transit Railway using Chinese originated software . (This "in exchange" for Osborne agreeing to allow the Chinese currency to trade on London' foreign exchange markets).

Looking at the amount of high speed railway in China it looks like we could have asked them to build HS2 in 2 years and at a cost of £20billion for the whole lot from London to Birmingham then on to Leeds / Manchester and on to Glasgow / Edinburgh... China even has working Maglev lines - how embarrassing for UK which developed it but only built a few hundred metres of it from Birmingham airport to nearby railway station - and it traveled at a jaw dropping 20mph.......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_China
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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2020, 06:11:51 PM »
China built two new hospitals in 2 weeks. Would you want to be a patient in one? To compare how China does things and how the rest of the world does things is foolish. I bought a pack of Table Tennis balls from China. 99p delivered. China is a world of its own, with no Health and Safety, no Human Rights and nothing we can do about it.

I would be very happy in a Chinese hospital. Our local NHS hospitals (and local NHS generally) are abominably bad and dangerous.

To get an understanding of China today (ish) there is an excellent book:

"Tiger Head, Snake Tails: China Today, How It Got There, and Where It Is Heading"

It was published in 2012 and is a bit out of date but a good buy for £5.50 delivered. Since then the Chinese economy has grown some 50%.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tiger-Head-Snake-Tails-Heading/dp/1468305050/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1581615767&sr=1-6

I think it is essential reading to realise the speed and potential reach of China.

When I first went to China, there were no private cars. Now it is the largest car market in the world.

I suspect most of our UK market electric cars will come (think 2032) from Chinese manufacturers who will dominate the world market.

The speed at which they develop technology is leaving the Americans far far behind (eg think 5G).

The scale of China's economic reach is almost impossible to comprehend.



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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2020, 07:51:55 PM »
Breaking news
Javid resigns.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1227934903473446913

18/11/2019 Johnson's CBI Speech
Sajid Javid will remain Chancellor if the Conservatives win next month's election, the Prime Minister confirmed as he sought to squash rumours of a rift between Number 10 and Number 11.

In an address to business leaders in London this morning, Boris Johnson made a cast-iron guarantee the Treasury will continue to be led by Mr Javid, who he hailed 'a great guy'.

The Prime Minister told the Confederation of British Industry conference: 'I'm going to give you an absolutely categorical assurance that I will keep Sajid Javid as my chancellor. How about that?

'I think he's a great guy and I think he is doing a fantastic job and I'm proud to count him as a colleague.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7697671/Boris-Johnson-vows-Sajid-Javid-Chancellor-wins-December-12.html
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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2020, 08:00:11 PM »
China built two new hospitals in 2 weeks. Would you want to be a patient in one? To compare how China does things and how the rest of the world does things is foolish. I bought a pack of Table Tennis balls from China. 99p delivered. China is a world of its own, with no Health and Safety, no Human Rights and nothing we can do about it.

I would be very happy in a Chinese hospital. Our local NHS hospitals (and local NHS generally) are abominably bad and dangerous.

To get an understanding of China today (ish) there is an excellent book:

"Tiger Head, Snake Tails: China Today, How It Got There, and Where It Is Heading"

It was published in 2012 and is a bit out of date but a good buy for £5.50 delivered. Since then the Chinese economy has grown some 50%.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tiger-Head-Snake-Tails-Heading/dp/1468305050/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1581615767&sr=1-6

I think it is essential reading to realise the speed and potential reach of China.

When I first went to China, there were no private cars. Now it is the largest car market in the world.

I suspect most of our UK market electric cars will come (think 2032) from Chinese manufacturers who will dominate the world market.

The speed at which they develop technology is leaving the Americans far far behind (eg think 5G).

The scale of China's economic reach is almost impossible to comprehend.




The real big problem China has is a rapidly aging population ---
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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2020, 09:50:07 PM »
18/11/2019 Johnson's CBI Speech
Sajid Javid will remain Chancellor if the Conservatives win next month's election, the Prime Minister confirmed as he sought to squash rumours of a rift between Number 10 and Number 11.

In an address to business leaders in London this morning, Boris Johnson made a cast-iron guarantee the Treasury will continue to be led by Mr Javid, who he hailed 'a great guy'.

The Prime Minister told the Confederation of British Industry conference: 'I'm going to give you an absolutely categorical assurance that I will keep Sajid Javid as my chancellor. How about that?

'I think he's a great guy and I think he is doing a fantastic job and I'm proud to count him as a colleague.'
And he would have done. But Javid resigned. His choice.

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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2020, 10:31:33 PM »
18/11/2019 Johnson's CBI Speech
Sajid Javid will remain Chancellor if the Conservatives win next month's election, the Prime Minister confirmed as he sought to squash rumours of a rift between Number 10 and Number 11.

In an address to business leaders in London this morning, Boris Johnson made a cast-iron guarantee the Treasury will continue to be led by Mr Javid, who he hailed 'a great guy'.

The Prime Minister told the Confederation of British Industry conference: 'I'm going to give you an absolutely categorical assurance that I will keep Sajid Javid as my chancellor. How about that?

'I think he's a great guy and I think he is doing a fantastic job and I'm proud to count him as a colleague.'
And he would have done. But Javid resigned. His choice.
Did he jump or was he pushed?

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