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dbjazz

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #60 on: March 03, 2020, 08:27:09 PM »
I see my second link doesn't work 'cos google drive seem intent on showing html files as text.  If Google drive wasn't free would anyone use it?  Here is my second link as text (sorry it's so long).  NB you may find my other 2 links more helpful let me know if you can't read them as well:

OBD-II Diagnostic Report 

System Status (Mode 01)
Description      
OBD Type      
    OBD Type   EOBD   
Trouble Codes      
    MIL Status   Off   
    Number of DTCs   2   
Continuous Monitoring tests      
    Misfire   Supported   Complete
    Fuel System   Supported   Complete
    Comprehensive Components   Supported   Complete
non-Continuous Monitoring tests      
    Catalyst   Supported   Complete
    Heated Catalyst   Not Supported   
    Oxygen Sensor   Supported   Complete
    Oxygen Sensor Heater   Supported   Complete
    EGR System   Supported   Complete
Fuel System Status      
    Fuel System 1 Status   closed loop   
    Fuel System 2 Status   Not Reported   
Diagnostic Trouble Codes (Mode 03, 07, 0A)
Description
Stored Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) (Mode 03)
    P0131 - O2 Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
        Vehicle Area: Powertrain (P)
        Area of Vehicle System: Fuel and Air Metering
        Controlled by: ISO/SAE Controlled Code (Core DTC)
        Controll Unit: $0E - manufacturer-specific
    P0132 - O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage
        Vehicle Area: Powertrain (P)
        Area of Vehicle System: Fuel and Air Metering
        Controlled by: ISO/SAE Controlled Code (Core DTC)
        Controll Unit: $0E - manufacturer-specific
Pending Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) (Mode 07)
    No Trouble Codes
Permanent Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) (Mode 0A)
    No Trouble Codes
Freeze Frame Data (Mode 02)
Description   Value   Units
P0131 - O2 Sensor Circuit Low Voltage      
    03 - Fuel System Status      
        Fuel System 1   closed loop   -
        Fuel System 2   Not Reported   -
    04 - Calculated Load Value   83   %
    05 - Engine Coolant Temperature   183   F
    06 - Short Term Fuel Trim - Bank 1   46.9   %
    07 - Long Term Fuel Trim - Bank 1   3.1   %
    0B - Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure   24.8   psi
    0C - Engine RPM   2643   rpm
    0D - Vehicle Speed   66   mph
    0F - Intake Air Temperature   44.60   F
    11 - Absolute Throttle Position   28.2   %
Location of Oxygen Sensors
Location of Oxygen Sensors   State
Bank 1 - Sensor 1   Present
Bank 1 - Sensor 2   Present

Oxygen Sensor Test Results (Mode 05)
Description   Value   Min   Max   Units   Result
Bank 1 - Sensor 1               
    $30 - Manufacturer Test ID Description   1.88   0.00   10.20   s   
    $90 - Manufacturer Specific Values / Units   188   0   187      Fail
Bank 1 - Sensor 2               
    $45 - Manufacturer Test ID Description   0.485   0.000   1.275   V   



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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #61 on: March 03, 2020, 08:34:19 PM »
I forgot to mention I checked under the car, the cables and clamps are well clear of the O2 sensors and cables, the cables seem fine and at least the upstream one is connected properly.  The downstream one disappears into the car but looks ok.  Both sensors looked to be seated in the cat OK, I didn't check that though.  Will have to go under again with a spanner.

Also I haven't attempted to clear the codes as it is evidence for the cat warranty.  Only one, P0131, was saved in the freeze frame data
« Last Edit: March 03, 2020, 08:43:13 PM by dbjazz »

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #62 on: May 09, 2020, 05:41:02 PM »
Hi guys,

Hope you are all good.

My question may have been replied(at least partly) already. If so, sorry for repeat one.
My car is Honda,Jazz,2003,1.4,Petrol.
It's cat has been stolen 2 weeks ago. I spent some time with insurance and ended up in repairing it by paying myself.

I went under the car to see the damage and ordered below from Euro Car Parts;
a) Cat Converter, https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/react-catalytic-converter-724600530
b) Centre silencer as it's end has gone also, making it useless. https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/klarius-centre-silencer-704600551
c) 2 Lambda sensors, each are the same. I thought they are universal(can be used for front or rear). Later I learned the ones I bought are for rear part. I was given Part# for the front one by Euro Car Parts. It's cost is 2.5 times of the rear one.

https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/walker-lambda-sensor-710601050 --> This is the one I ordered 2 pcs.
https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/adl-blueprint-lambda-sensor-71060101J --> This is the one that was said for the front, but's cost is 2.5 of the 1st one.

https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/bosch-710770417 --> It is not clear in their websise if this one is for rear or front.

My Questions:
1) Can you please help on finding the suitable front lambda sensor in above options.(I prefer to order from the same retailer) ?
2) Should I need to order some other parts like Gasket, Rubber, Spring, Bolt ?

Sorry for long message, but I wanted to give as much detail as possible.

Have a great weekend.

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #63 on: May 09, 2020, 09:40:59 PM »
My Questions:
1) Can you please help on finding the suitable front lambda sensor in above options.(I prefer to order from the same retailer) ?
2) Should I need to order some other parts like Gasket, Rubber, Spring, Bolt ?


A complete kit is usually the cheapest option, by the time you've bought all the bits and bobs

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Catalytic-Converter-Exhaust-Stolen-on-your-Honda-Jazz-This-is-the-kit-you-need/164167891065


Front sensor on its own

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Jazz-2002-2008-1-4-1-2i-DSi-O2-Oxygen-Lambda-Front-Sensor/373005907154


You will probably also need fitting kits for the cat, and the middle to rear box joint.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2020, 09:49:05 PM by sparky Paul »

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #64 on: May 09, 2020, 11:16:55 PM »
Sorry to hear this is still going on even in the lockdown!
As an aside, with my original Honda cat from when the car was built (2005 1.4 SE) with mixed around town and a 7 mile journey on country roads to work and back, the car returned a steady 46-47 MPG.

 Since the cat was stolen, and now fitted with a 65 pattern Cat and two sensors from a local car parts supplier I now am getting between 49-55 MPG over the same identical journey pattern as before...Strange eh? maybe this one will pay for itself :)

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #65 on: May 10, 2020, 11:16:24 AM »
Since the cat was stolen, and now fitted with a 65 pattern Cat and two sensors from a local car parts supplier I now am getting between 49-55 MPG over the same identical journey pattern as before...Strange eh? maybe this one will pay for itself :)

Are you sure there's anything in the cat?  ;D

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #66 on: June 01, 2020, 06:51:33 PM »

OBD-II Diagnostic Report 

Stored Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) (Mode 03)
    P0131 - O2 Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
        Vehicle Area: Powertrain (P)
        Area of Vehicle System: Fuel and Air Metering
        Controlled by: ISO/SAE Controlled Code (Core DTC)
        Controll Unit: $0E - manufacturer-specific
    P0132 - O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage
        Vehicle Area: Powertrain (P)
        Area of Vehicle System: Fuel and Air Metering
        Controlled by: ISO/SAE Controlled Code (Core DTC)
        Controll Unit: $0E - manufacturer-specific

I don't know if it helps, but my Jazz has just had its 4th Lambda sensor fitted (under warranty) by the garage that replaced the stolen CAT & sensors (I have used them for about 20 years, and they have a good local reputation).
Mine seem to go after longer motorway journeys, and I'm no boy racer, 75mph max and the revs don't get much past 3000, bringing the engine warning light on and giving the P0131 & P0132 codes. If the car isn't used for a few days, the warning light goes off, and only P0131 remains, but as soon as it gets another motorway run, the light is on and P0132 is back.

Talking to some other garages and exhaust places, it seems that universal fitting sensors are more prone to this, some places said that is why they only use direct fit ones. I have fed this back to my garage, and they have said that they use direct fit, but if this one goes, they will start trying other sensors.

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #67 on: June 04, 2020, 08:28:07 PM »
There was a piece on BBC South East regarding catalytic converter thefts. A woman had hers stolen from her 2nd gen CRV, even caught the thevies on her dashcam. Sussex Police claimed they could'nt take any action as the perpetrator could argue they were retrieving something that had rolled under the car. After the BBC got involved the Police took action and made an arrest.

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