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JohnAlways

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2018, 11:02:34 AM »
Hi all

Jocko, the driver would probably claim he was loading his vehicle from a nearby shop (even if it was  a packet of sausages) :)

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2018, 11:18:23 AM »
Then they ask to see his id, run a check on his vehicle, check the validity of his driving licence. By the time has has spent 15 minutes at the side of the road he may think about it next time!
I remember once being out with my brother, and we witnessed a particularly poor piece of driving. He said "I wish I was driving the company car.". It took a moment for me to realise that his "company car" was a police car.

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2018, 02:18:34 PM »
The police of today are always telling us they are too busy to deal with mundane matters. Quite openly while visiting my very poorly Sister in Law, knowing I am ex job as they say, one of her carers said if you want to find a policeman just look in Tescos at Redruth.  The present situation is no different from my time except Health and Safety is the get out. WE were busy sometimes and not others but it was a cardinal sin to tell your supervisor you were bogged down with work. I worked a very busy south coast seaside town for three years before becoming  a rural which made matters worse as we were treated as gophers all the time. In my time there was the discipline code no entitlement to a meal break and you worked until the job was done and if it happened just before your shift ended tough, just get on with it.
Yesterday was a piece of film in Worcestershire. It appeared to be on a busy junction with a right hand bend in the distance. A white line system was in place. Mummy's were  coming up to what was obviously a school and stopping within the white line system. One wasn't even making any attempt to get close to the kerb. Just came around her chelsea tractor opened the door and got a child out while the traffic was attempting to get around her. Why not open the door on the opposite side to the traffic and get the child out on the 'safe' side. They all appeared to be bigger than child seat size. Sorry if I step on toes but the number of times I was moaned at about speeding, poor driving etc endangering their kiddies and then you would see the self same woman doing exactly  what she had been moaning about. On the subject of German cars, I had a mercedes pull up where I was standing alongside yellow lines, it had British plates, the woman got out. I said please move your car. The reply was I am German you can't do anything about it. To which I pretended to ask for a recovery vehicle for a tow. The car was moved pretty damn quick. They were arrogant then and no doubt have passed it on to British drivers as part of the handbook issued with BMW.Audi, Mercedes etc. Moany old git!!!!!

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2018, 06:26:30 PM »
one of her carers said if you want to find a policeman just look in Tesco at Redruth.  The present situation is no different from my time except Health and Safety is the get out. WE were busy sometimes and not others but it was a cardinal sin to tell your supervisor you were bogged down with work. I worked a very busy south coast seaside town for three years before becoming  a rural which made matters worse as we were treated as gophers all the time. In my time there was the discipline code no entitlement to a meal break and you worked until the job was done and if it happened just before your shift ended tough, just get on with it.
Yesterday was a piece of film in Worcestershire. It appeared to be on a busy junction with a right hand bend in the distance. A white line system was in place. Mummy's were  coming up to what was obviously a school and stopping within the white line system. One wasn't even making any attempt to get close to the kerb. Just came around her chelsea tractor opened the door and got a child out while the traffic was attempting to get around

In America they used to say if you want a policeman you will find them at local coffee / donut bar.

How a lot of women can justify a 4x4 for school run and shopping is beyond me.
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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2018, 08:21:05 AM »
The police do not appear be interested!!!!
The police are not interested. I regularly see police vehicles, queuing with the rest of us mortals, trying to get past an illegally parked car. Why they don't stop and wait for the driver to appear (driver usually in one of the nearby shops), I don't know. They could at least give them a firm talking to if they don't want to ticket them.

I dare say that the number of car parking tickets or warnings is not a measurement on these cops' key performance inidcators (KPIs) by which we all live these days.

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2018, 11:01:28 AM »
Do police have a quota today?  nothing would surprise me if so. Not something I know anything about but given the number of specialists depts now in the police forces ( I refuse to use service) I shouldn't have thought there was much room for uniform quotas unless parking etc qualifies. The super specialists mop everything else up. Me I had to be jack of all trades and woe betied me if I was master of none.

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2018, 01:43:58 PM »
I just witnessed a couple of great bits of bad driving, while picking my wife up from work.
I was following a school of motoring car with an obvious learner at the controls. As we progressed along, at just under the limit, a Volvo X** cut straight out in front of it. And the driver of the Volvo. An old man with a flat cap. I hope the ADI took the opportunity to enlighten his pupil about the perils of old drivers with headgear, particularly flat caps!
The other driver was an equally old woman, sitting parked on the approach to a zebra crossing at the hospital, front bumper right at the crossing. She wasn't even parallel to the kerb but with the nose well out into the narrow road. As I slowly edged past I tooted the horn, and the look I got would have turned milk.

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2018, 09:00:22 AM »
Unfortunately, it seems that we (  I hope not me) pick up the worst habits of others. On my favourite moan re driving, if the police are to get the public on side then they should set an example.
What am I on about, a WPC ( yes I know that is sexist but it wasn't in my day it told you immediately what sex the po was) parked a marked police car across the stripes of a pedestrian crossing completely blocking it.
Recently came around a bend to a dangerous junction where a lorry had broken down. Two WPC's one on the junction and one the other side of the lorry. The one on the junction was giving very clear and concise signals the other I thought was drying her nail varnish.
I do have a problem with calling ALL police officers the same. In my day, an officer announced them selves over the radio by their warrant/collar number and if a WPC 49 asked for help we would ensure we got there a little quicker. Now it would be PC49 and if the radio was blotted out by traffic noise I doubt one could differentiate. Nothing to do with sexism.

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2018, 10:41:34 AM »
An old man with a flat cap. I hope the ADI took the opportunity to enlighten his pupil about the perils of old drivers with headgear, particularly flat caps!

Any age driver wearing headgear in a vehicle is a big warning sign to me  :o

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2018, 11:29:56 AM »
Drivers entering a motorway in Northern Ireland, they seem to think they have right of way and just barge in from the slip road, usually at about 40mph!  They seem to have no idea that it is called a 'slip' road because you match your speed and 'slip' into the traffic without inconveniencing others. Apparently some driving schools here recommend giving way to slip roads!!!  You should not have to give way at all on a motorway, much less have to use your brakes. :o

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2018, 01:33:17 PM »
Drivers entering a motorway in Northern Ireland, they seem to think they have right of way and just barge in from the slip road, usually at about 40mph!  They seem to have no idea that it is called a 'slip' road because you match your speed and 'slip' into the traffic without inconveniencing others. Apparently some driving schools here recommend giving way to slip roads!!!  You should not have to give way at all on a motorway, much less have to use your brakes. :o
I don't often have an issue with cars joining the motorway.  I try to match their speed (without braking) or if conditions allow, I pull into the middle lane.

What I think is really dangerous are those who immediately move to the outside lane when joining.  You cannot possibly be able to judge the relative speeds of other motorists in such a short time.  I have seen numerous near misses in these circumstances.

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2018, 04:07:43 PM »
Some years ago when I was working 'darn sarf' I was travelling east on the M25 and passing a slip road. A pick-up truck driven by 'foreign persons'  came hurtling down the slip road making no attempt to join the motorway in a proper manner. It travelled across all three lanes at speed, missed all the traffic, glanced off the central reservation barrier, bounced back into the outside lane and carried on unchecked!
There was a lot of tyre smoke about!

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2018, 05:43:15 PM »
If you'd had a dash cam Vic it would have gone viral on YouTube!

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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2018, 12:01:02 PM »
Having just driven back from Devon on M5 I have had a bellyful of HGV drivers who continually pull into centre lane, perform the slowest overtake possible and then pull back in front of lorry they have just overtaken and proceed at exactly same speed as it.  I am confounded why they felt the need to overtake and cause chaos in following traffic,  are they bored with the view of lorry in front, the cynical part of me thinks they do it for entertainment.  Also the advice to keep to the nearside lane and keep centre lane free - do not hog centre lane has gone amiss somewhere, people dive into inside lane and within 100 yards are back out into centre lane,  back into inside lane out again in 200 yards, WTF it is more dangerous than staying in centre lane and keeping up a reasonable speed - it is so easy to get trapped in nearside lane doing 50 when centre lane traffic is doing 70+,  the same people will happily stay in nearside lane at junctions and make the joining traffic go thorough hoops to get into traffic flow.
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Re: The UK's most dangerous drivers
« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2018, 02:13:07 PM »
I used to be the same with the lorry overtaking thing, but an ex artic driver who has joined our side of the firm gave me an explanation, to do with momentum, gear changing, getting back up to speed when forced to slow or brake, he said it better than I can, but since then I've understood why it happens and drive accordingly. I get more peed off if I'm approaching the back of a lorry (or any slow moving vehicle) and I can't pull out because a middle lane driver is hurtling by at between 1 and 2 mph faster than I'm going, usually a woman or elderly bloke.

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