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Ciaran84

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Gearbox dying, to refurb or replace?
« on: May 29, 2017, 11:30:33 PM »
My gearbox is on it's last legs. I have been quoted €600-700 to refurbish it or 500-550 to put in a secondhand replacement. Which option is better? I'm short on cash but willing to pay the extra for the refurb if it's worth it.

I'm also wondering if, with 190k miles on the clock and the possibility of needing the brake discs and timing chain done at some point soon should I cut my losses or run it until the next expensive problem?

Thanks for any advice!

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Re: Gearbox dying, to refurb or replace?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2017, 07:17:15 AM »
Only you can be the ultimate decision maker as to whether to carry on with the car or not. It all depends on the overall reliability, its condition, body and paint wise and generally how happy you are with it (other than the gearbox).
I am no expert, having only owned my first Jazz for 11 months, but it is my understanding that the gearboxes just get more and more noisier but don't fail. Mine is getting noisy now, but as long as the CD player is able to drown it out I will keep going! Regarding a refurb or a replacement, it would appear that in some cases the whine starts at fairly low mileages, so you could get one, install it, and find it is not much better than the one you have already.
I have had old, high mileage cars for 50 years now and have never needed to replace a timing chain. Is your chain noisy? Are you sure it is not just the valve clearances needed tended to?
Having run many old cars to extinction (a newer car for me is always a "distressed purchase") I always let my experience with the car be my guide. If I have had no real problems with it, it starts and runs reliably, the bodywork is clean, tidy and rust free, then I do necessary repairs. Better the evil you know is my adage.
Brake discs are not particularly expensive (you can get discs and pads for about £30 a pair) less than a tyre. I certainly wouldn't replace a reliable car if it needed a tyre!
Ultimately however, the only one who can make the decision is you. I am sure many, more informed than me, will give you their opinion.

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Re: Gearbox dying, to refurb or replace?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2017, 07:40:16 AM »
Good advice from Jocko.  It is only one bearing in the gearbox,  the gears themselves don't give a problem - the gearbox won't fail it will just get noisier,  you could try putting gearbox molyslip in as a cheap job (gearbox oil should have been replaced every 70,000 miles, was that done do you know),  it may or may not make it any quieter than it is now but it may slow the progress of the noise a bit.  As for timing chain, I would not worry about replacing it just yet,  is it particularly noisy ??  The chain runs in oil so has a good life really.
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Re: Gearbox dying, to refurb or replace?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2017, 11:39:56 AM »
The chain will last the life of the engine. Theoretically chain tensioners can fail but I've never heard of it with Honda engines.

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