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BartReading

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Clicking noise when aircon is on
« on: October 25, 2024, 10:44:19 PM »
Hi All, assistance would be appreciated.
i just bought my mk3 Honda Jazz auto 2017 from Honda approved package.
I have noise coming from "engine area" when i have an aircon on. Noise\sound is like clicking noise approx every 8sec.
I didn't have that in my previous jazz mk2 model.
I went back to garage and was told this is typical noise.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2024, 12:44:45 PM »
its the a/c compressor kicking on and off

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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2024, 01:10:23 AM »
The compressor is turning off and on. May need a gas refill/clean

BartReading

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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2024, 10:34:53 AM »
I went to Honda and they refilled gas but this clicking noise is still there.
I will go to aircon specialist to check.

So i understand compresor shouldn't be kicking on and off that often? Or is that normal as i was told at Honda garage? It's around every 8sec


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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2024, 07:48:51 PM »
I went to Honda and they refilled gas but this clicking noise is still there.
I will go to aircon specialist to check.

So i understand compresor shouldn't be kicking on and off that often? Or is that normal as i was told at Honda garage? It's around every 8sec
Since it's a no variable displacement compressor, it will adapt the power varying its duty clycle, each click is a switch between on/off condition.  So it's absolutely normal to hear this noise.

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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2024, 10:39:49 PM »
it will have a shorter cycle in colder weather than in the summer and switch off entirely at 3c

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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2024, 08:12:21 AM »
it will ... switch off entirely at 3c

Where do you get that from? I don't remember that happening over the last 9 winters I've owned my car. In cold weather you need to use both A/C and heating together to demist the windows, it would be a bit weird for the A/C to switch off just when you need it.

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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2024, 09:17:52 AM »
it will ... switch off entirely at 3c

Where do you get that from? I don't remember that happening over the last 9 winters I've owned my car. In cold weather you need to use both A/C and heating together to demist the windows, it would be a bit weird for the A/C to switch off just when you need it.
The evaporator coil has a temperature sensor (part 80560T5A003 on our Jazz), used to avoid ice clogging on it. Ice would be dangerous because  refrigerant fluid could not evaporate and flow in liquid status to the compressor and this would damage it. This condition is easier to achieve in winter, trying to process cold and humid air from outside. Compressor can work even in very low temperatures, under 32°F, but it will work easier in air recirculation mode.
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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2024, 04:29:02 PM »
i just bought my mk3 Honda Jazz auto 2017 from Honda approved package.
I went back to garage and was told this is typical noise.

Any thoughts?
If you're not happy, and they are telling you "that all do that Sir!", ask them to prove it. They must have another mk3 on the forecourt to compare it with. If it's the same, there's your answer. If not, you've just made your case. Go to be worth a go? :)

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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2024, 11:03:31 AM »
my compressor clicks every few seconds more noticeable at idle.

I thought it was a problem at first , especially compared to my old Golf , but it's been working like it for 3 years and Honda checked it a while ago finding no faults.

Had to have the condenser replaced though , it's very vulnerable unprotected right at the front of the car.
 

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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2024, 01:38:41 PM »
my compressor clicks every few seconds more noticeable at idle.

I thought it was a problem at first , especially compared to my old Golf , but it's been working like it for 3 years and Honda checked it a while ago finding no faults.

Had to have the condenser replaced though , it's very vulnerable unprotected right at the front of the car.

how much did that replacement condenser cost and did you do it at main dealer?

the bottom half of mine has lots of fins bashed off with stones

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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2024, 03:58:56 PM »
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how much did that replacement condenser cost and did you do it at main dealer?

the bottom half of mine has lots of fins bashed off with stones
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replaced under the extended warranty, thankfully

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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2024, 08:37:09 PM »
It's perfectly normal for a honda.
The clicking noise you hear is the AC clutch engaging and disengaging.


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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2024, 10:03:49 AM »
Maybe the AC clicking is more noticeable because the Mk3 engine is so quiet   :).  Back in the 1920's Rolls Royce told customers the reason they could hear the dashboard clock ticking was because the engine was so quiet - they used it as a tongue in cheek marketing ploy.

The clicking is solved on the  Mk4  which uses an electric inverter AC compressor , independent of the engine. And perhaps inspired by Rolls Royce the Mk 4 drivers manual   actually warns that you can sometimes hear background systems running which  are normal but would be hidden by  engine noise in a 'conventional' car.   (You can sometimes faintly hear  fans running etc.)
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Re: Clicking noise when aircon is on
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2024, 10:49:27 AM »
Maybe the AC clicking is more noticeable because the Mk3 engine is so quiet   :).  Back in the 1920's Rolls Royce told customers the reason they could hear the dashboard clock ticking was because the engine was so quiet - they used it as a tongue in cheek marketing ploy.

The clicking is solved on the  Mk4  which uses an electric inverter AC compressor , independent of the engine. And perhaps inspired by Rolls Royce the Mk 4 drivers manual   actually warns that you can sometimes hear background systems running which  are normal but would be hidden by  engine noise in a 'conventional' car.   (You can sometimes faintly hear  fans running etc.)
Yep, that's why sound proofing in HEVs, PHEVs and BEVs is generally more accurate than standard cars.
ABS/ESP systems perform a self test at every startup: since this test is noisy and some customers complained about it,  vehicles do it when the car reaches 10-15km/h so it's hidden by engine and rolling noises.
my compressor clicks every few seconds more noticeable at idle.
I thought it was a problem at first , especially compared to my old Golf
European cars, apart from low cost and citycars, generally use variable displacement compressors, while japanese and american cars use scroll type compressors with fixed displacement cheaper and more reliable.
Variable displacement compressors are smoother when working in manual trasmission cars, most common in Europe:  in low gears, you can feel a bump like a misfire when the fixed capacity jazz compressor engages or disengages, and this happens frequently because the A/C system must stop the compressor when it gives more cooling power than requested. Variable displacement compressors instead adapt the cooling power modifyng the displacement, so no clicks and no bumps. In automatic transmissions like CVTs or torque converters, there's never bumps even with fixed capacity compressors because the trasmission filters these knocks, so american and japanese brands (building a high percent of automatic cars) use more efficient scroll compressors.

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