Keyless driving!

[Kremmen]

I'm not convinced keyless is an improvement from remote central locking and an ignition barrel.

Seems very insecure judging from news reports.

[5thcivic]

Reports at least a 25% jump in car crime the past couple of years mostly down to keyless and remote hacking. I have to keep the E key in a faraday pouch in my pocket for safety since it does not have the switch off function of the Jazz key.

[Lord Voltermore]

Reports at least a 25% jump in car crime the past couple of years mostly down to keyless and remote hacking. I have to keep the E key in a faraday pouch in my pocket for safety since it does not have the switch off function of the Jazz key.

I'd have thought the shortage of new cars ,chips and spare parts is a big factor.  The shortage is most acute in new high tech cars.  If criminals meet the demand then most of the cars they target will inevitably be keyless.

[Toptek]

I have keyless on my 2018 EX but would prefer a standard key for security reasons. However, some years ago, a friend had his front door kicked in for his keys, so maybe waking up to an empty driveway due to relay theft maybe less traumatic.

[Neil Ives]

.... would prefer a standard key for security reasons....

You could just use the hidden key inside the key case and remove the battery from the unit.

[nowster]

.... would prefer a standard key for security reasons....

You could just use the hidden key inside the key case and remove the battery from the unit.

You still need the battery to be able to start the thing! (Perhaps it may still work if you hold it up against the start button.)

[Lord Voltermore]

I sometimes think  they fit keyless because they can, and because other makers are doing it.  I can see the advantage of not having to hunt for your keys if you have your hands full   (in fact I just saw a woman with a trolley of shopping  walk up to her Mercedes, and the boot opened itself electrically.  Whoopie.  But decadent really, and not having it is a first world problem.  At least she didnt have it all delivered to her sofa. )

I dont think there is much difference between keyless and keys.  If a determined thief wants your car or contents they will burgle your house for the keys, smash a window and grab something before you can react, or stage a fake  'prang' and  highjack the car  when you stop and get out.  (They already know this
  )   Any distressing and dangerous  consequences are going to happen anyway.

Its best not ponder on how modern life may be getting more dangerous.   Highwaymen and footpads were a danger in the 18th century.  And hanging didnt stop them.   Take all reasonable  precautions, and remember that ultimately its only a car.   Maybe I only think this way because ,apart from a motorcycle stolen (and recovered) when i was about 17  -( back in the good old days  when there were bobbies on the beat  and everything was rosy) 'But nothing much has happened to me since.  (apart from about 10 years ago when someone stole the chain off my garden  gate   )

 

[Jazzik]

You still need the battery to be able to start the thing! (Perhaps it may still work if you hold it up against the start button.)

Maybe not necessary. Check for a hole in the center of the front bumper. Is that there? You (or your wife) can start the car with the crank...

I thought we've been living in the 21st century for almost 22 years now. Reading here some of the comments on the achievements of that 22nd century makes me feel like I'm back in the 1950's or 60's...
When everything was better... 

[nowster]

Maybe not necessary. Check for a hole in the center of the front bumper. Is that there? You (or your wife) can start the car with the crank...

Don't forget to tuck your thumb in or when the engine "catches" it'll be dislocated.

[John Ratsey]

Reading here some of the comments on the achievements of that 22nd century makes me feel like I'm back in the 1950's or 60's...
When everything was better... 

My Austin A35 came with a starting handle although I never succeeded in using it to start the engine.

One comforting thought is that the HV battery and big motor in the Mk 4 Jazz should succeed in starting a very reluctant engine.