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MikeRO

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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2026, 12:40:26 PM »
Our Jazz is just over 5 years old and the ac condenser was declared faulty during the last service. Main dealer quoted £1040 to replace it although I found a local specialist who said he could do it for £500.

Out of the blue, the dealer came back and said it might be covered by 'extended warranty' if the condenser wasn't damaged by a stone. Sure enough they sent photos (of what turned out to be the leak problem mentioned above) to Honda who then gave the green light to do the repair FOC - to my huge relief.

So, if you have this problem, do get the dealer to check if your vehicle falls in to the relevant category for an extended warranty repair.

What were the symptoms before the faulty ac condenser diagnosis? No cold air?

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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2026, 03:46:29 PM »
Ours is an early 2020 SR, and the aircon stopped blowing cold a week or so ago. I'm well aware of the known issue with condensers on some early models and phoned the garage number which puts me through to the call-centre. Oh dear. Not helpful, even said that if an aircon service didn't cure it I would still need to pay for a diagnosis, and they didn't have access to the information which could show if it was one of the affected batch!! I had asked the previous day for the dealer (Lincoln Honda) to call me back and confirm if mine was one of the affected batch, and I was waiting for the call-back.

I gave up with the call-centre and considered the next move. Half an hour later Lincoln Honda called me and we agreed that I'd book it in for an aircon service (effectively a re-gas) and if that was all it needed I would pay for that, but if it was the condenser they would change it and re-gas it at no charge under an extended warranty. What a difference - exactly what I wanted to hear! Booked in for 8.30 the next morning, got a call saying it was the condenser and they have one in stock and can change it straight away at no charge. Great service! On a six year old car!

I wonder if Honda UK has had a change of mind about the condensers as there's no talk of "a goodwill gesture" but it's definitely an extended warranty now. Anyway - if your aircon has stopped blowing cold contact your dealer!

It's gone a long way to restoring my confidence in Honda, though I'm still appalled by the fake leather seat bolsters splitting. Maybe I'll have another go at Honda UK about that one. I've had very old cars in the past with actual plastic seats which haven't split so you'd expect Honda to do better!

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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2026, 04:37:29 PM »
My MK4 Jazz was the nicest driving car I've owned but posts like this regarding 'doctors receptionist' like call centres and the continued denial of the seat bolster issue makes me glad I bailed out
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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2026, 05:12:39 PM »
Ours is an early 2020 SR, and the aircon stopped blowing cold a week or so ago. I'm well aware of the known issue with condensers on some early models and phoned the garage number which puts me through to the call-centre. Oh dear. Not helpful...
I'm very glad to hear that Honda (UK) finally came around free of charge for you for this well known issue!
Unfortunately big(?) companies prefer to invest in call centers with clear orders to wheedle off any warranty claims rather than customer service (and then wonder, why longtime customers wander off... 

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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2026, 06:25:30 PM »

What were the symptoms before the faulty ac condenser diagnosis? No cold air?

Exactly that, although there was a gradual decline in cooling output over some months - presumably as the gas slowly leaked out.

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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2026, 06:30:24 PM »

I wonder if Honda UK has had a change of mind about the condensers as there's no talk of "a goodwill gesture" but it's definitely an extended warranty now.

One of the service engineers at our local Honda dealer told me unofficially that this problem has been covered by extended warranty in some countries for some time - notably Canada - but it took longer for Honda UK to agree to it. Each application is still judged by Honda UK on a case by case basis.

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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #51 on: July 20, 2026, 09:00:45 AM »

Unfortunately big(?) companies prefer to invest in call centers with clear orders to wheedle off any warranty claims rather than customer service (and then wonder, why longtime customers wander off...

In the UK at least its more than just being dealt with by a call centre. The whole warranty ,Honda care, servicing package ,procedure is managed by an independent ''Business solutions' company who are specialists in car warranties.

Honda, and several other major car manufacturers ,use these companies to administer their warranty schemes. It saves them having to employ their own staff. The staff are experts at refusing claims They will use correspondence claiming to be Honda  and the same member of staff may answer one phone call as 'Honda'  and the next as ,for instance, Ford.   Their business success and reputation is  within the warranty business  solution industry and depends on how much money they can save their clients - Honda.  They care little about how their decisions  may damage Hondas  own reputation with its customers..

In theory Honda take overall control of disputes but its quite difficult to get beyond the initial guard dogs and have it considered by Honda themselves. And Honda Europe have ,IMO  , preferred to save Honda Japan as much money as possible on dwindling  European sales, rather than increase sales by improving customer care.
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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #52 on: July 20, 2026, 09:59:27 PM »
I had a Honda 12 service and front seat bolster covers replacement in March and the dealer picked up that the air con was leaking. They checked with Honda Motors Europe (HME - UK) who confirmed that the VIN fell in a range of affected vehicles with sub standard air conditioning condensers; the condenser was automatically replaced FOC and not as a “goodwill gesture”  :-*
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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2026, 05:59:12 AM »
Does anyone know which VIN series are affected by this faulty condenser?

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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #54 on: July 21, 2026, 11:53:06 AM »
knowing the VIN range would be nice indeed

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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #55 on: July 21, 2026, 09:59:56 PM »
I don’t think there is a publicly available list, it appears to be a case of getting the dealer to supply your VIN to Honda to see if it’s affected (possibly the way Honda is avoiding potential claims on cars that are not manifesting a problem but are in the VIN range)
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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #56 on: July 22, 2026, 04:30:42 AM »
I have seen many Honda service bulletins where the text says 'only to be done on customer complaint'
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #57 on: July 22, 2026, 04:31:06 PM »
sounds like Honda is not as open as Toyota, isn't it?

MikeRO

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Re: Air Con problem
« Reply #58 on: August 11, 2026, 06:51:48 PM »
My Crosstar was also diagnosed with faulty ac condenser and it was replaced on extended warranty.

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