Screeching noise from wheels

[yasir152]

I'm having an issue with a screeching noise on my Honda Jazz MK1 2004 for the past few months. Initially I thought it might be due to worn out front brake pads and discs but I changed these and am still getting it. I also cleaned out any dust in the axle area  with a metal brush and used brake cleaner spray when installing the new brake discs and pads.
Here is a link to an audio file of the noise
https://drive.google.com/file/d/126A5CWxISufDcU8dY9jT_Tq9q8HPqPJ5/view?usp=drivesdk

It usually occurs when I apply brakes whilst driving but occasionally does without applying brakes.
Any ideas what this could be?

[Westy36]

You could try new brake fitting kit. The old ones might well be knackered.

Are the calipers getting warm/hot? Any brake dragging? Slider pins nice and free?

[bill888]

When is the screeching noise occurring?
eg. under braking, turning a corner?   

Are you sure the noise is coming from front pads?

Did you apply some grease to the rear surface of the pads where there is metal to metal contact with floating caliper and piston?

Only thought is when you removed the old pads, were there any shims fitted to old pads?

https://www.parts-honda.uk/honda-cars/JAZZ/2006/14-SE/STEERING-BRAKE-SUSPENSION/FRONT-BRAKE/17SAA601/B__2200/4/22058


fwiw, I've observed from google images, some 3rd party brake pads may have a thin metal shim bonded to the brake pad's thick metal backing plate.  Pagid and Brembos don't have such bonded shims.

[yasir152]

You could try new brake fitting kit. The old ones might well be knackered.

Are the calipers getting warm/hot? Any brake dragging? Slider pins nice and free?

I will try new brake fitting kit. That was next thing to try. Braking seems to be ok. Can't seem to find any issue when braking.

[yasir152]

When is the screeching noise occurring?
eg. under braking, turning a corner?   

Are you sure the noise is coming from front pads?

Did you apply some grease to the rear surface of the pads where there is metal to metal contact with floating caliper and piston?

Only thought is when you removed the old pads, were there any shims fitted to old pads?

https://www.parts-honda.uk/honda-cars/JAZZ/2006/14-SE/STEERING-BRAKE-SUSPENSION/FRONT-BRAKE/17SAA601/B__2200/4/22058


fwiw, I've observed from google images, some 3rd party brake pads may have a thin metal shim bonded to the brake pad's thick metal backing plate.  Pagid and Brembos don't have such bonded shims.

Screeching occurs when braking not necessarily when turning. Then after braking when I continue to drive it occasionally comes and goes. Does definitely seemt ot come from front. I'm going to apply grease as I hadn't done this.
Yes they had the metal backing plate but I removed this as they are so flimsy.

[yasir152]

So I've reopened up again and applied grease. But still getting the noise and it seems to get worse now. I really can't figure out what this is. The only option now is new brake pad clips.

[Lord Voltermore]

I'm no expert on brakes, but have heard  of 'anti squeal shims.'   

From a quick search on line I have found various brands of self adhesive anti squeal shims .

Could it be that however flimsy and insignificant the bonded backing plate may have appeared , the manufacturers of that brand of  pad found it necessary to go to the trouble of adding it to reduce the chances of squealing.  (Whereas other some  brands might have slightly different lining material, or a fraction of a millieter thicker backing plate,better machining etc   and found shims unnecessary ) 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/227230281982?

Here is an example from Ebay  just to illustrate my point.  I am NOT saying this particular listing  fits your car, or that its suitable,necessary or would  solve your problem.

[yasir152]

Initially I had the shims on and it was making the noise, removed them and added some lubricant instead but still getting noise. I might invest in anti squeal shims like you suggest.

[yasir152]

So finally got to the bottom of the issue. Turns out it was the rear brake pads that were worn out. Mechanic said this was caused by a ceased caliper. Don't know why I thought noise was coming from front though I'm sure it was previously so could have been multiple issues. Anyway I'm just glad it's fixed now and no longer have any annoying sounds.

[yasir152]

Here is how bad it was on the left rear side