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Re: 2006 1.4 DSi 40k - Should I buy?
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2019, 05:36:20 PM »
g box should last even with noises .
I was first aware of noise from the gearbox, in neutral, at 93K. At 98K it started to get noticeable and by 99K it was worrying. By 100K my wife commented on the noise (she doesn't drive). By 101K it was embarrassingly noisy. I felt pedestrians and other motorists must hear it so I arranged to get it fixed. It had 101K on clock when it was repaired and it has been perfect ever since. It has now done almost 114K.

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Re: 2006 1.4 DSi 40k - Should I buy?
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2019, 07:13:18 PM »
My wife's MK1 53 plate developed the gearbox whine at about 75K, my identical 53 plate was used for longer journeys in mainly higher gears and had still not developed any noise at all at 120K when I traded it in.  The lower gears and acceleration put more strain on the bearing ( it is normally first or second gear that fails first in any gear box ) so it's back to the old truism that short local journeys are worse for  car than motorway miles.  Helical ( gears with skewed teeth )  are quiet running but put end thrust on the shafts in gear box, this thrust is greater in lower gears and will cause bearing to degrade sooner, straight cut gears do not generate end thrust and are stronger than helical, but are noisy  - listen to reverse gear noise or the  audible gear noise on BTCC or rally cars.

The bloke who fixed my wifes gearbox showed me the noisy bearing ( only one bearing is affected ) and it spun freely without any noise, it is just slight pitting the race that makes the noise, and noise is worse when end thrust applied by helical gears pushing the balls against side of groove rather than running on the deepest part of race. Bearing will not fail, but when you run out of volume on the radio you may want to get it fixed.
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Re: 2006 1.4 DSi 40k - Should I buy?
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2019, 08:52:47 PM »
Bearing will not fail, but when you run out of volume on the radio you may want to get it fixed.
That is more or less the stage I got to!

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Re: 2006 1.4 DSi 40k - Should I buy?
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2019, 09:54:36 PM »
I'm currently (or should I say my wife) is at the radio running out of volume stage! Still, this evening she's headed up to Manchester in it (230 miles) and swears, even at low speeds/gears, the sound is getting noticeably quieter. Must admit, when I filled it up at the petrol station yesterday, instead of a constant whir in neutral with the clutch pedal up, the whir did come and go - is my Jazz healing itself!!

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Re: 2006 1.4 DSi 40k - Should I buy?
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2019, 10:38:01 PM »
I'm currently (or should I say my wife) is at the radio running out of volume stage! Still, this evening she's headed up to Manchester in it (230 miles) and swears, even at low speeds/gears, the sound is getting noticeably quieter. Must admit, when I filled it up at the petrol station yesterday, instead of a constant whir in neutral with the clutch pedal up, the whir did come and go - is my Jazz healing itself!!

It does happen, when you threaten to get rid  ;)

It's lulling you into a false sense of security...  :-X

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Re: 2006 1.4 DSi 40k - Should I buy?
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2019, 11:03:22 PM »
Sometimes mine would go absolutely silent, but only for a couple of miles.

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Re: 2006 1.4 DSi 40k - Should I buy? UPDATE!
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2019, 11:38:13 AM »
UPDATE! For better or worse I’m on my way to collect a 2006 Sport, 104k on the clock, new MOT, service history with lots of receipts, in/out only a few marks for £1600. Just couldn’t find anything near as good in a 50 mile radius of Brighton, guess all us southerners must be loaded (I wish🙄). Anyone want to offer on a 2003 SE with noisy gearbox, clunking O/S suspension & broken CD player? Does have an MOT until March 2020 and decent tyres!

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Re: 2006 1.4 DSi 40k - Should I buy? UPDATE!
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2019, 03:47:34 PM »
UPDATE! For better or worse I’m on my way to collect a 2006 Sport, 104k on the clock, new MOT, service history with lots of receipts, in/out only a few marks for £1600.

Good luck with the new aquisition, I love piles of receipts.

I bet you had a good listen to the gearbox!

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Re: 2006 1.4 DSi 40k - Should I buy?
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2019, 04:55:49 PM »
Try advert for your old Jazz on Gumtree esp if it has current MOT, good luck with sale.

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Re: 2006 1.4 DSi 40k - Should I buy?
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2019, 06:13:00 PM »
Just writing the advert now. Bizarrely, the absolutely deafening gearbox is almost now silent (OK, not silent, but at least 70% quieter than it was). Still pleased it's getting Gumtree'd but what on earth can be going on?? The symptoms were classic bearing failure, could the bearing have 'eased up' in some way? On a separate note, I'm just going to post a query regarding 'heavy steering' on my new 2006 Sport acquisition, any replies would be much appreciated!

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Re: 2006 1.4 DSi 40k - Should I buy?
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2019, 12:15:29 PM »
Quieter because your Jazz knew you were about to dispose of it.
Good luck with sale, always take cash to your bank then hand over the V5 & keys

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