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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: What Car Jazz vs Yaris vs Polo group test
« Last post by RichardA on April 15, 2021, 08:26:55 PM »
Limited optional extras makes finding a second hand example much easier. A decade ago I briefly considered a Mini Cooper S, but it was near impossible to find any with climate control and a multi-function steering wheel (read: radio controls). On the otherhand, you are forced into buying things you don't want - the last time I checked the specs of the Honda Civic I think to get LED headlights you either were had to have leather seats (and a glassroof, I think), or bump up to the 1.5-litre engine.
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New Members / Re: Hello from Hull!
« Last post by RichardA on April 15, 2021, 08:17:59 PM »
Hello and welcome. :)
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Last post by Bristol_Crosstar on April 15, 2021, 04:49:04 PM »
My initial choice was the Crosstar but having investigated further and seen both at the dealers I'm now leaning towards the Jazz.

I've been caught before by dirt and road debris hitting the car sides and rear lower bumper area and mud flaps certainly work. Then looking at the height, and roof rails that I don't need, they would make cleaning slightly harder so I looked more closely at the Jazz.

From what I can tell, the only downsides are the lower quality audio via less speakers, and the slightly softer suspension ?

I need to see the inside materials and see which I prefer, leather or waterproof.

I'm aiming for a Sep reg so I've got a few months leeway.
My Crosstar has the "Robust Pack" which has protective panels under the front and rear bumper area, I didn't pay extra for it as it was on the car already, I think it costs around £400 to have it as an extra.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: What Car Jazz vs Yaris vs Polo group test
« Last post by Expatman on April 15, 2021, 04:34:31 PM »
What Car Jazz vs Yaris vs Polo group test below.
Donít think they really understand the eCVT configuration.

https://www.whatcar.com/news/new-honda-jazz-and-toyota-yaris-vs-volkswagen-polo-verdict/n22869
The group test is not comparing like for like and therefore highly flawed, the Polo in the test is simply a  contemporary car with three-pedal manual transmission and not comparable to  the advanced specification of an easy to drive two-pedal hybrid  transmission  by Toyota or Honda, Price a Polo for the VW DSG automatic gearbox and the Polo is £800 more than the Jazz, then add the recommended extras to the Polo to the DSG and the price of the Polo exceeds the Jazz by  £1600 or more. A very poor showing by What Car, perhaps VW did not release a DSG Polo to What Car for fear of the adverse comparison

I totally agree. I wonder if I'm the only one who uses car configurators just to pass the time :) I tried speccing a Polo recently and the lowish headline price was very deceptive. £1600 over the Jazz for a similar spec seems about right once you had added a few extras.
I am just getting my head around the fact that there are virtually no extra options available for the Crosstar (apart from dealer supplied mats etc.).  Certainly makes decision making easier although I would have liked the option to add height adjustable passenger seat and heated windscreen! Is this because the cars all come from Japan and are not made to order like many European made cars?

The Japs have always put loads of equipment in cars that is an optional extra on German stuff, same with German motorbikes,  the price rockets when you start adding 'extras'....
I see that because to spec many alternatives to a Jazz standard the price balloons dramatically. The only downside is that you canít  spec the car to meet your particular requirements. However, I guess that is the price you pay for buying a car made in Japan half a world away! Just wish they included things like auto dimming interior mirror and height adjustable passenger seat in the original equipment list - those really are basic items.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: What Car Jazz vs Yaris vs Polo group test
« Last post by culzean on April 15, 2021, 04:20:01 PM »
What Car Jazz vs Yaris vs Polo group test below.
Donít think they really understand the eCVT configuration.

https://www.whatcar.com/news/new-honda-jazz-and-toyota-yaris-vs-volkswagen-polo-verdict/n22869
The group test is not comparing like for like and therefore highly flawed, the Polo in the test is simply a  contemporary car with three-pedal manual transmission and not comparable to  the advanced specification of an easy to drive two-pedal hybrid  transmission  by Toyota or Honda, Price a Polo for the VW DSG automatic gearbox and the Polo is £800 more than the Jazz, then add the recommended extras to the Polo to the DSG and the price of the Polo exceeds the Jazz by  £1600 or more. A very poor showing by What Car, perhaps VW did not release a DSG Polo to What Car for fear of the adverse comparison

I totally agree. I wonder if I'm the only one who uses car configurators just to pass the time :) I tried speccing a Polo recently and the lowish headline price was very deceptive. £1600 over the Jazz for a similar spec seems about right once you had added a few extras.
I am just getting my head around the fact that there are virtually no extra options available for the Crosstar (apart from dealer supplied mats etc.).  Certainly makes decision making easier although I would have liked the option to add height adjustable passenger seat and heated windscreen! Is this because the cars all come from Japan and are not made to order like many European made cars?

The Japs have always put loads of equipment in cars that is an optional extra on German stuff, same with German motorbikes,  the price rockets when you start adding 'extras'....
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: Electric cars
« Last post by springswood on April 15, 2021, 03:35:43 PM »
I thought the EQS looked stunning. Admittedly Robert Llewellyn was so excited he was barely articulate but it's a thing of beauty and has genuinely great range. I was worried when he kept saying it will be expensive. Perhaps it comes from watching Top Gear but £100-120k doesn't seem bonkers. It's roughly the price of an S class. Aside from the fact that does about 32 mpg I know which is special.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: What Car Jazz vs Yaris vs Polo group test
« Last post by Expatman on April 15, 2021, 03:31:59 PM »
What Car Jazz vs Yaris vs Polo group test below.
Donít think they really understand the eCVT configuration.

https://www.whatcar.com/news/new-honda-jazz-and-toyota-yaris-vs-volkswagen-polo-verdict/n22869
The group test is not comparing like for like and therefore highly flawed, the Polo in the test is simply a  contemporary car with three-pedal manual transmission and not comparable to  the advanced specification of an easy to drive two-pedal hybrid  transmission  by Toyota or Honda, Price a Polo for the VW DSG automatic gearbox and the Polo is £800 more than the Jazz, then add the recommended extras to the Polo to the DSG and the price of the Polo exceeds the Jazz by  £1600 or more. A very poor showing by What Car, perhaps VW did not release a DSG Polo to What Car for fear of the adverse comparison

I totally agree. I wonder if I'm the only one who uses car configurators just to pass the time :) I tried speccing a Polo recently and the lowish headline price was very deceptive. £1600 over the Jazz for a similar spec seems about right once you had added a few extras.
I am just getting my head around the fact that there are virtually no extra options available for the Crosstar (apart from dealer supplied mats etc.).  Certainly makes decision making easier although I would have liked the option to add height adjustable passenger seat and heated windscreen! Is this because the cars all come from Japan and are not made to order like many European made cars?
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Sat Nav Map Updates
« Last post by Kremmen on April 15, 2021, 03:03:25 PM »
Oh, that puts on screen cameras out of reach then.

Have you managed anything as I know you had them running on the Civic ?
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Sat Nav Map Updates
« Last post by Steve_M on April 15, 2021, 02:48:33 PM »
.... and don't forget that if you have a speedcam subscription that results in a Garmin .GPI file then this needs placing in the USB stick POI folder before updating the map.

If you have any issues like no audio alerts or dots instead of a speed related icon then post back as this is one area I do have some experience.

This version of Garmin map does not seem to use GPI files in the POI folder like previous versions. There are country/region specific NFS files with an associated CHK file.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: What Car Jazz vs Yaris vs Polo group test
« Last post by peteo48 on April 15, 2021, 02:23:41 PM »
What Car Jazz vs Yaris vs Polo group test below.
Donít think they really understand the eCVT configuration.

https://www.whatcar.com/news/new-honda-jazz-and-toyota-yaris-vs-volkswagen-polo-verdict/n22869
The group test is not comparing like for like and therefore highly flawed, the Polo in the test is simply a  contemporary car with three-pedal manual transmission and not comparable to  the advanced specification of an easy to drive two-pedal hybrid  transmission  by Toyota or Honda, Price a Polo for the VW DSG automatic gearbox and the Polo is £800 more than the Jazz, then add the recommended extras to the Polo to the DSG and the price of the Polo exceeds the Jazz by  £1600 or more. A very poor showing by What Car, perhaps VW did not release a DSG Polo to What Car for fear of the adverse comparison

I totally agree. I wonder if I'm the only one who uses car configurators just to pass the time :) I tried speccing a Polo recently and the lowish headline price was very deceptive. £1600 over the Jazz for a similar spec seems about right once you had added a few extras.
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