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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: Get new Jazz with CVT?
« Last post by JazzyJJ on May 23, 2018, 07:55:43 PM »
I test drove a 2017 JAZZ EX CVT 1.4 unaccompanied for 1.5 hours on my usual routes and I REALLY LIKE IT  :D

1. F the reviews. I like the car and its now on my buy list. Im going to check out one more different car maybe - to put my mind at rest - but I doubt it'll beat the Jazz overall.

2. I didn't find the CVT a problem at all. Perfectly fine for my life and driving style. I took it on the motorway and its fine cruising at 70 with rpm around 2500 - no noise issues. Only maybe 1-3 gears some rev noise but nothing that bothered me. On the town roads and traffic - great.

3. The driving position 'feels' higher that my Mk1 Jazz - which is good (maybe the seat is just more plump) and the car 'sits' on the road more. I like it. Drove it like my Mk1 at times and it did well - but mostly ill just be driving it easy.

4. I do think the infotainment is very weak. Wish they put Apple CarPlay in or be able to retro add it as thats all you need. Otherwise its very redundant as you can switch between radio stations via the steering wheel - what else do you need the screen for? Im not paying for nav when my phone will always out perform it. I turned the screen off.

5. And the aircon touch buttons aren't ideal. But is it climate control? I didn't get around to working it out if it is. Climate control being the ability to set a temp and it maintain it automatically.

6. I also couldn't get the cruise control to work.

7. To fold the mirrors do you still have to press the button or is there a way to set it auto fold when the car is shut off?

8. How hard wearing is the seat fabric? Seems like it wont wear well - will need a good cover on the driving seat to ensure it doesn't wear out over time.

9. Might try the 1.5 in CVT if I can so I have experience but I dont think I need the extra power but lower mpg and want the smart keyless stuff rather than black alloys.
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: Get new Jazz with CVT?
« Last post by VicW on May 23, 2018, 07:53:50 PM »
I don't if things have changed but the CVT versions were always higher geared then the manuals.
Manual about 25mph/1000rpm in top gear.
CVT about 32mph/1000rpm in the equivalent of top gear.

Vic.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: RE HONDA 1.5 JAZZ SPORT CVT
« Last post by Skyrider on May 23, 2018, 07:35:53 PM »
Mine was 10 days from order to handover.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: RE HONDA 1.5 JAZZ SPORT CVT
« Last post by JazzyJJ on May 23, 2018, 07:33:48 PM »
Well i have ordered my jazz cvt sport today and im surprised that honda has cars available in uk as my last car was a seat dsg leon and had to wait for factory  to make it.

When will you take delivery?

Im thinking of buying a Jazz and in a prelim discussion the good salesman said its probably likely most of the range would be available for pick up within a week. I need to check tomorrow. Good incentive if you are in the market for a Jazz / Honda.
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: Get new Jazz with CVT?
« Last post by trebor1652 on May 23, 2018, 07:31:19 PM »
Honda's fuel figures indicate that the CVT is more fuel efficient than the manual version.

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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: How to define unreliability.
« Last post by VicW on May 23, 2018, 07:21:29 PM »
Mean time between failures is, as Jocko says what industry uses. The accepted truth is that the more complex a piece of equipment the more often it will be expected to break down (if you factor in the MTBF for each component and sub-assembly).

I spent some time in the RAF and on one particular aircraft, a complicated interceptor, an MTBF of four hours for the main radar was normal. It has to be appreciated,however, that the ratio of technicians to aircraft in any one aspect of expertise was about one to two. The working day was about twenty hours split into two shifts.

Vic.

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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: RE HONDA 1.5 JAZZ SPORT CVT
« Last post by Skyrider on May 23, 2018, 06:53:26 PM »
I am sure you will enjoy it, when you have a little experience of the CVT a comparison with the DSG would be interesting.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: RE HONDA 1.5 JAZZ SPORT CVT
« Last post by daveyboy on May 23, 2018, 06:45:37 PM »
Well i have ordered my jazz cvt sport today and im surprised that honda has cars available in uk as my last car was a seat dsg leon and had to wait for factory  to make it.
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My apologies Skyrider, yes I did miss out the 'no'.
I have now got used to the Atkinson cycle and if it gives a significant improvement in mpg, which I believe it does, then I can live with it, it just needs a little anticipation!

The slight rise in fuel consumption ( so small In the overall cost of running a car it is insignificant ) is well worth it. I think a drive of a 1.5 CVT would change your mind! I can assure you the car is transformed with progress much smoother, also the facelift improvements to the ride and handling are considerable.
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: Get new Jazz with CVT?
« Last post by MikeG1944 on May 23, 2018, 06:33:43 PM »
While I agree that conventional automatics are more fuel hungry than manuals, I think the CVT is probably the most economical for fuel as in Drive mode the computer is constantly adjusting for fuel economy and I doubt anyone could drive it in manual mode and get any better mpg?
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