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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: High milage problems?
« Last post by sparky Paul on December 14, 2019, 12:42:07 PM »
Our mk1 Jazz we passed on to our daughter has done over 170K, if it sounds and drives alright, I wouldn't be too worried mechanically. Full history is nice, ours came with a box file full of receipts, lovely. Check previous mot history here

https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk

for anything suspicious, and look underneath if you can to see how bad the rust is, and it will be rusty at that age. Jazzes are pretty bomb-proof mechanically, but make sure the ABS warning light comes on with the ignition and goes out, listen out for droning rear wheel bearings, and whining coming from the gearbox as they are prone to gearbox input shaft bearing failure. Dip the clutch in neutral, and listen for whining or rumbling when you lift the clutch.

Ours had a clutch around 110K miles, but it was a driving school car for the first 100K, so that's not really representative. It's all down to driving styles, a clutch can last the car out with a careful driver.

Try to get the price down, 950 is a bit steep around here for a 54 plate with 160K on it.
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: Charging issues--
« Last post by culzean on December 14, 2019, 12:09:40 PM »
I know this thread is old but I have noticed the same problem with my 2003 jazz.
My dash light does not come on but charge voltage varies as described with the added feature that, when it drops to 12.3v, any throttle input, when driving with no lights/accessories on, keeps charge voltage to 12.3v but as soon as there is no throttle input allows 14.4v.
Could a bad TPS cause this?

More importantly, is there an easy way to bypass the charge system controller to force continuous 14.4v to the battery?

Try this thread as well

https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=11400.msg75519#msg75519

You do not really want to keep charge voltage at 14.4v as this could damage battery...  Try turning lights, heated screen, mirrors on and other loads on and see if this alters the alternator output voltage..
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / High milage problems?
« Last post by ricksatluz on December 14, 2019, 11:22:27 AM »
I'm considering the purchase of a 54 plate 1.4 i-DSI SE Sport 5dr with 160k it's a one lady owner. It's on sale for 950? It has a full history, but still on the original clutch? Should I be worried? And what other faults should I be aware of.
Thanks in anticipation
Eric
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: Charging issues--
« Last post by seasidesoulish on December 14, 2019, 10:37:04 AM »
I know this thread is old but I have noticed the same problem with my 2003 jazz.
My dash light does not come on but charge voltage varies as described with the added feature that, when it drops to 12.3v, any throttle input, when driving with no lights/accessories on, keeps charge voltage to 12.3v but as soon as there is no throttle input allows 14.4v.
Could a bad TPS cause this?

More importantly, is there an easy way to bypass the charge system controller to force continuous 14.4v to the battery?


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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: Should I go diesel?
« Last post by Basil on December 14, 2019, 07:52:50 AM »
Mazda diesels have an apalling reliability record..

Agree, they're not the best.

I don't want to sound too pessimistic Jocko by my Ford TDCI lasted 115k

Let me guess, 1.6 TDCI? That is a disaster from Peugeot, most of the problems stem from injector leaks... which burns the engine oil, blocks the oil strainer, kills the turbo, and then the crank often starts knocking shortly after. The 1.4 TDCI in the Fiesta, etc., wasn't a lot better.

BMW & Mini also use the Peugeot diesels in some models, not sure what engine the one Jocko was looking at has in it. Given the good mpg, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the Peugeot.

It was a 130BHP 2.0 TDCI and it seemed to be something with fuel pump and/or injectors.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - 2020 / Re: CVT
« Last post by John Ratsey on December 13, 2019, 06:28:57 PM »
i think its great you got 120k on a cvt, do you change your oil every 2 years ?
The CVT is fairly robust - this one passed 1/4 million miles before it died https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=10058.0 . And that was a driving instructor's vehicle so it probably had a harder life than most. Just follow Honda's recommended 2 years / 25k miles (whichever comes first) for the oil change.
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Honda Jazzz Mk4 2020 - / Re: I-MMD v eCVT
« Last post by John Ratsey on December 13, 2019, 06:21:41 PM »
My understanding is that the engine drive is a fixed gear (to minimise the transmission losses, as well as saving a little cost). From that link:

"The i-MMD (intelligent Multi Mode Drive) system determines how to use fuel and electrical energy in the most efficient way, which means there’s no requirement for the driver to adjust between the three driving modes; Electric Drive, Hybrid Drive and Engine Drive.

How Hybrid works in Electric Drive

In Electric Drive, the propulsion motor draws its power solely from the batteries, delivering super-quiet and low-emissions driving.

How Hybrid Drive works

In Hybrid Drive, the petrol engine supplies power to the electric generator motor, which in turn delivers power to the electric propulsion motor, so that any excess power from the petrol engine is diverted back through the generator motor to recharge the batteries.

How Hybrid works in Engine Drive
In Engine Drive, the wheels driven by the petrol engine, with an ‘on-demand’ peak-power ‘boost’ available from the electric motor when you need to make a quick overtaking manoeuvre."

It will be interesting to see what driving conditions trigger the engine drive mode as the engine will be Atkinson cycle and therefore relatively low torque at lower speeds (but the motor is available at any time to provide a torque boost). Perhaps cruising at 35 mph with the engine at a bit over 1000 rpm? This would mean the engine running at around 2000 rpm at 60 mph which is similar to the current CVT gearing.
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Honda Jazzz Mk4 2020 - / Re: I-MMD v eCVT
« Last post by Jocko on December 13, 2019, 05:21:02 PM »
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: Should I go diesel?
« Last post by Jocko on December 13, 2019, 05:18:20 PM »
BMW & Mini also use the Peugeot diesels in some models, not sure what engine the one Jocko was looking at has in it. Given the good mpg, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the Peugeot.
The PSA engine only comes in 1.4 and 1.6. This Beemer uses the B47 engine, built in their Steyr plant, in Austria.
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Honda Jazzz Mk4 2020 - / I-MMD v eCVT
« Last post by Paulwhitt20 on December 13, 2019, 05:08:09 PM »
I am familiar with the Toyota/Lexus eCVT system. What are the differences with the Honda I-MMD system?

Particularly when in engine drive mode where the engine is connected directly to the wheels by the clutch.  Is it like being in a fixed gear say fourth in a manual. So road speed follows engine speed. Is engine drive mode only used for cruising,  what happens when accelerating or slowing down. Also it seems to suggest that in hybrid mode the engine is used to generate electricity to make the motor turn the wheels and so the engine is not connected directly to the wheels (clutch disengaged) is this correct?

Is there a link to how this works for those interested in these things.
Thanks
Paul


Thanks
Paul
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