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Title: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: Outcasst on June 28, 2020, 05:14:11 PM
Hi all.

Hit a pheasant at around 50 MPH a while back which caused quite a bit of paint to chip off the front bumper. Hadn't really thought about getting it repaired until recently since I am planning on selling the car on.

Image of the damage: https://i.imgur.com/fzFEOXV.png

Just wondering whether it would be worth getting it repaired, or would it be cheaper to just replace the entire bumper? The cheapest ones I have seen that are in decent condition and the correct colour are around the 70 - 100 ballpark.

Any opinions would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: John Ratsey on June 28, 2020, 05:49:36 PM
I would be looking for aerosol or touch-up paint in the appropriate colour. Here's one source https://www.coxmotorparts.co.uk/honda/honda-touch-up-pens/ (but not very cheap).
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: Jocko on June 28, 2020, 05:52:21 PM
Looks bad. The colour has totally delaminated from the plastic. May well be a better option replacing than trying to repair. Mind you, for an old car it may be as well leaving it and offering to take the price of a replacement bumper off the selling price. That way the new owner can fix it or live with it!
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: Outcasst on June 28, 2020, 05:57:04 PM
Well I was planning to just take it to webuyanycar rather than selling private. I'm leaning towards just accepting whatever they offer for its current condition. Part Ex isn't an option since I'll be going with a BMW dealer so I doubt they'll take it.

They quoted around 1,400 online (56 Plate, ~92K Miles), and this is the only significant damage on the car.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: springswood on June 28, 2020, 06:19:37 PM
I sold a 1999 Focus to we buy any car 4 or 5 years ago. They do an external inspection and revised the price sharply downwards for some bodywork issues I thought weren't worth fixing on a car of that age. Though they did miss thee water collecting in the rear footwell which started a week before I sold it. So might still be worth fixing.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: olduser1 on June 28, 2020, 06:37:25 PM
Dont spend a 1 on the Jazz , as for webuyany I wouldnt bother.
Try motorway.co.uk first
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: VicW on June 28, 2020, 06:43:28 PM
Get a quote from firms like 'Chipsaway' or there others just do search.

Vic.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: Jocko on June 28, 2020, 06:46:39 PM
I tried WeBuyAnyCar for my Volvo S40 and the price they offered was laughable. My brother took a car in for an inspection and every dunt and dent knocked 100 of the previously quoted price. The guy actually told him a garage would put it on the forecourt, as is, for three times their offer and he sold it privately for two and a half times the WBAC price.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: peteo48 on June 28, 2020, 10:26:32 PM
My gut reaction is that a DIY repair on a blemish of that size would look like, well, a DIY repair and might not alter the WBAC value much if at all.

Interesting about WBAC. I have had a couple of quotes from them in the past on relatively new cars and the price offered seemed decent - not over generous but in the right ball park (never took it any further as it happens). A mate tried to sell an old but very tidy Ford Focus to them a couple of years ago and the price they offered was derisory. He sold it privately in the end and got 1500 (iirc) as opposed to their 800 offer. I get the impression they don't really want the older vehicles.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: Jocko on June 28, 2020, 11:11:32 PM
This evening I got a quote from WBAC for my 2006 Jazz S and they offered me 50. 30 is the petrol in the tank!

(https://i.imgur.com/HOn53Pc.jpg)
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: sparky Paul on June 29, 2020, 12:42:42 AM
Part Ex isn't an option since I'll be going with a BMW dealer so I doubt they'll take it.

Dealers will take anything. Same as webuyanycar, anything they can't retail goes straight to auction the same week. You may as well take it to auction yourself, or stick it on ebay - older Jazzes always seem to go fairly well on there.

You may even get what seems, on the face of it, a decent offer from a dealer... but factor in what you could haggle off the screen price, and you will be looking at a low offer for your car.


Hit a pheasant at around 50 MPH a while back which caused quite a bit of paint to chip off the front bumper. Hadn't really thought about getting it repaired until recently since I am planning on selling the car on.

Image of the damage: https://i.imgur.com/fzFEOXV.png

That's the site of a previous repair, you can see where the colour's been flatted off, and the paint below is over a skim of filler - that's why it's flaked off.

It could all be flatted off and done with a base aerosol and lacquer, if you or a friend had an aptitude for it. To do it properly would cost you more than an in colour secondhand bumper in materials alone, by the time you've done getting half a litre of paint mixed, lacquer and thinners.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: peteo48 on June 29, 2020, 10:54:22 AM
This evening I got a quote from WBAC for my 2006 Jazz S and they offered me 50. 30 is the petrol in the tank!

(https://i.imgur.com/HOn53Pc.jpg)

Not really looked but have second hand car prices slipped? Read a few weeks ago that older cars might become more sought after as people seek a cheap alternative to public transport because of coronavirus fears.

That offer is a real insult Jocko. Obviously a 14 year old car will have a low resale value but 50!!!
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: madasafish on June 29, 2020, 01:04:18 PM
50 is a message not an offer.

The message is "we don't sell cars that old"..

If I were them, I would have the same policy..
(The car is worth far more to the kind of buyer looking for cheap transport . They will never look at the dealers WBAC sell to. But the cheapies on Gumtree/facebook)

Remember Dealers are still bound by the Sale of Goods Act  and have the possibility of refunds if the car goes bang in its first 6 months..Not worth the risk on a 14 year old car- however cherished 
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: Derkie54 on June 29, 2020, 02:29:04 PM
This evening I got a quote from WBAC for my 2006 Jazz S and they offered me 50. 30 is the petrol in the tank!

(https://i.imgur.com/HOn53Pc.jpg)

Surely the number plate is worth a lot more than that Jocko.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: peteo48 on June 29, 2020, 02:49:10 PM
50 is a message not an offer.

The message is "we don't sell cars that old"..

If I were them, I would have the same policy..
(The car is worth far more to the kind of buyer looking for cheap transport . They will never look at the dealers WBAC sell to. But the cheapies on Gumtree/facebook)

Remember Dealers are still bound by the Sale of Goods Act  and have the possibility of refunds if the car goes bang in its first 6 months..Not worth the risk on a 14 year old car- however cherished

Yes - I think I can see that. When my pal told me about his Focus (see above) I thought they weren't interested and the offer was pitched to convey that.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: sparky Paul on June 29, 2020, 08:03:43 PM
WBAC will pitch it at a price that guarantees a profit at auction after their costs are covered. Most of these car supermarkets and main dealers aren't interesting in retailing stuff over 3 years old unless it's exceptional, so lots of it goes to auction - a profit is a profit, if they can get the cars cheap enough.

The other thing to bear in mind is that a GD Jazz with original cat will scrap over 300 with a little work. Last time I was at auction, even tatty stuff was fetching a lot more than that, auction buyers seem to love them - especially CVTs with a decent MOT.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: Beaver on June 29, 2020, 09:15:52 PM
My local scrap yard will pay 30 if you deliver the car to them.   If they collect it from you, they do you a favour by not charging you for that.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: sparky Paul on June 29, 2020, 10:11:07 PM
My local scrap yard will pay 30 if you deliver the car to them.   If they collect it from you, they do you a favour by not charging you for that.

If that's all they pay for a Jazz, they're onto a winner.

My local is currently paying 60/tonne for cars with engine, and 5-8 for alloy rims, prices are pretty low. The bulk of the money is in the cat, if you cut it off and take it to the right place. Cat prices have gone through the roof.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: springswood on June 30, 2020, 08:04:57 AM
Makes me wonder how easy it is to put a car in to auction.

As to the original question I suspect it's worth fixing and that replacing rather than repainting is the easier option.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: sparky Paul on June 30, 2020, 10:32:29 AM
Makes me wonder how easy it is to put a car in to auction.

Not difficult, auction local to me even have their own transporters and will come and collect your car. Some cars go through cheaper than you would expect, but buyers have factor in the risk. Some stuff makes silly money, and Jazzes do seem to attract bidding. Paperwork helps, especially a long MOT.
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: Jocko on July 06, 2020, 03:59:45 PM
Dinged all the emails from WeBuyAnyCar and today they upped their offer from 50 to 405. Must have had enquires for the Jazz!
Title: Re: Front bumper paint damage. Repair or replace?
Post by: sparky Paul on July 06, 2020, 11:18:10 PM
Dinged all the emails from WeBuyAnyCar and today they upped their offer from 50 to 405. Must have had enquires for the Jazz!
Just testing you, see if you rushed in for your 50 quid!