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Honda Jazz, HR-V & Hybrid Forums => Hybrid => Topic started by: VicW on August 16, 2019, 06:39:17 PM

Title: New Jazz Preview
Post by: VicW on August 16, 2019, 06:39:17 PM
Preview of New Jazz model.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/jazz/106443/new-2019-honda-jazz-set-to-target-supermini-suv-rivals?_mout=1&utm_campaign=autoexpress_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter
Title: Re: New Jazz Preview
Post by: Jocko on August 16, 2019, 07:20:58 PM
At least it is thought it will retain the Magic Seats.
Their mock up looks quite good. They must reckon it is pretty near the mark. A case of Evolution rather than Revolution.
Title: Re: New Jazz Preview
Post by: Downsizer on August 17, 2019, 05:24:22 PM
I hope there'll be a version without the "rugged" add-ons and roof rails, which don't appeal to me.
Title: Re: New Jazz Preview
Post by: John Ratsey on August 17, 2019, 06:35:06 PM
I hope there'll be a version without the "rugged" add-ons and roof rails, which don't appeal to me.
Also they add cost but reduce fuel efficiency!
Title: Re: New Jazz Preview
Post by: Barky on August 17, 2019, 06:57:42 PM
so it'll be goodbye to CVT & Dual Clutch/Hybrid only then
Title: Re: New Jazz Preview
Post by: smilertoo on August 18, 2019, 01:33:48 AM
The new hybrid will be a manual?
Title: Re: New Jazz Preview
Post by: Steve_M on August 18, 2019, 08:19:30 AM
The new hybrid will be a manual?

No, not manual, it will be eCVT same as CR-V hybrid
Title: Re: New Jazz Preview
Post by: Downsizer on August 18, 2019, 09:17:40 AM
I don't think it will need any sort of gearing, manual or CVT.  The electric motors will deal with all lower speeds without gearing, with the engine as a generator, and at higher speeds the engine will join the transmission via a direct drive to the wheels.
Title: Re: New Jazz Preview
Post by: John Ratsey on August 18, 2019, 02:25:00 PM
The new hybrid will be a manual?
No, not manual, it will be eCVT same as CR-V hybrid
I'm under the impression that the hybrid CRV uses Honda's i-MMD https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/coming-soon/hybrid.html (https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/coming-soon/hybrid.html) which does without a traditional gearbox and the Jazz will probably have a scaled-down version of the same system.

Furthermore, for any hybrid system to work efficiently, it needs to have control over how to behave in response to the current situation and driver inputs. Providing a manual gearbox would make this task much more difficult.
Title: Re: New Jazz Preview
Post by: Jocko on August 18, 2019, 03:08:21 PM
It will use the Honda i-MMD, as John says.

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/coming-soon/hybrid.html (https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/coming-soon/hybrid.html)