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Title: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: guest1372 on January 22, 2018, 09:12:25 PM
Many new cars seem to come with diamond cut / polished alloys these days instead of painted, I assume these have some sort of protective coating but to my eyes they look more susceptible to damage.  A chip on a painted wheel could be touched in & polished out but not sure what you could do with these.  A decent coat of wax is probably helpful but if the surface is finely textured then this (and clear coat if any) might not be that effective.

What have people's experiences of these been? 
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TG
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: culzean on January 23, 2018, 07:10:15 AM
Many new cars seem to come with diamond cut / polished alloys these days instead of painted, I assume these have some sort of protective coating but to my eyes they look more susceptible to damage.  A chip on a painted wheel could be touched in & polished out but not sure what you could do with these.  A decent coat of wax is probably helpful but if the surface is finely textured then this (and clear coat if any) might not be that effective.

What have people's experiences of these been? 
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TG


my wifes GE Si came with diamond cut alloys and I don't like them,  they put clearcoat over the 'diamond cut' bits and it soon got scruffy and you can see the corrosion working its way under the clearcoat.   Black alloys next time and a touch of gloss Hammerite will soon cover any dings.
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: John A on January 23, 2018, 07:46:41 AM
Had them on previous cars. The last Qashqai had corrosion starting after it was less than two years old.

If the car is on PCP and / or you like to keep them looking nice and you damage them by kerbing them etc, I'm told that they're not easy to repair.
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: Skyrider on January 23, 2018, 08:01:49 AM
I had them on a Focus, corrosion started in the second year.
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: guest1372 on January 23, 2018, 11:05:29 AM
Hmm, thanks.  That's kind of what I thought after walking along the street, if I keep my new car for 5 years then I'm sure they will end up looking rough no matter what I do to them.  Probably a passing fad anyway.
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Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: John Ratsey on January 24, 2018, 10:28:43 PM
my wifes GE Si came with diamond cut alloys and I don't like them,  they put clearcoat over the 'diamond cut' bits and it soon got scruffy and you can see the corrosion working its way under the clearcoat.   Black alloys next time and a touch of gloss Hammerite will soon cover any dings.
The diamond cut alloys on my HR-V have been replaced under warranty due to pitting (which shows up as white spots under the clearcoat). This appears to be a known problem for the HR-V alloys. I wait to see if the replacements last better but am considering changing wheels when the tyres need replacing so I can have higher profile tyres and an improved ride.
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: RichardA on January 28, 2018, 06:54:57 PM
A common problem across all makes - google White worm wheels. I read accounts on forums regarding difficulty in getting wheels replaced under warranty (can't comment about Honda).
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: culzean on January 28, 2018, 07:26:42 PM

A common problem across all makes - google White worm wheels. I read accounts on forums regarding difficulty in getting wheels replaced under warranty (can't comment about Honda).

Even BMW and Mercedes wheels get it.....  it is very expensive to get diamond cut wheels re-done (well over £100),  a lot more than getting normal wheels powder coated (normally about £50),  and you can get new alloys from mytyres etc. for not much more than £50 - £70 for normal sizes.

And here is a typical example from Nissan Qashqai  forum (looks the same as my wifes GE wheels)  once the worm get under the clearcoat it starts to flake off - proper pants....  I would not have diamond cut again.

https://www.qashqaiforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=5425
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: guest1372 on January 28, 2018, 08:42:55 PM
Thanks for the update, I hope you have not been winding up the QQ forum.
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TG
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: RichardA on February 04, 2018, 11:39:11 AM
Even if you stay away from kerbs the corrosion can still set in near the centre cap.
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: richardfrost on February 05, 2018, 09:48:36 AM
my wifes GE Si came with diamond cut alloys and I don't like them,  they put clearcoat over the 'diamond cut' bits and it soon got scruffy and you can see the corrosion working its way under the clearcoat.   Black alloys next time and a touch of gloss Hammerite will soon cover any dings.
The diamond cut alloys on my HR-V have been replaced under warranty due to pitting (which shows up as white spots under the clearcoat). This appears to be a known problem for the HR-V alloys. I wait to see if the replacements last better but am considering changing wheels when the tyres need replacing so I can have higher profile tyres and an improved ride.

Echoing what John said. Two of the wheels on my HRV developed this and Honda flat out refused to replace them as there was minor curb damage elsewhere on the wheel. It was this attitude that contributed to my eventual decision to not get another Honda when I replaced the HRV.
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: Jocko on February 05, 2018, 09:52:49 AM
A mate of mine bought a brand new HRV and asked to have steel wheels fitted for that very reason.
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: richardfrost on February 05, 2018, 10:16:13 AM
A mate of mine bought a brand new HRV and asked to have steel wheels fitted for that very reason.
Wise man.
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: Jocko on February 05, 2018, 10:21:26 AM
A mate of mine bought a brand new HRV and asked to have steel wheels fitted for that very reason.
Wise man.
We both worked for the main Honda dealer at the time!
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: culzean on February 05, 2018, 10:38:22 AM
Apparently the white worms get in even without kerbing, the slightest stone chip or knock (from having a new tyre fitted or a ding from a spanner when removing wheel)  damages the fragile clearcoat and once moisture and salt can get underneath the game is over - once the worms get in the clearcoat flakes off.

My advice is to stay away from diamond cut - a 'clear' case of style over practicality.
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: guest1372 on February 05, 2018, 01:13:29 PM
Becoming a bit of a chore finding a car without diamond cut wheels & 45 profile tyres if I persist with an opening sunroof, seems these options are mutual. Probably be able to do a forum swap to someone who wants the bling or the dealer would do it at no charge to 'upgrade' a mid range model.
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TG
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: guest7267 on February 05, 2018, 01:17:47 PM
Last year I was a member of the British Renault Crap-Tour..... sorry, I mean the Captur club and everyone hated the quality of those diamond cut alloys. Lots of complains because of rust. Fortunately my Captur didn't have those rubbish alloys! Mine had painted alloy wheels and they looked perfect when I sold the car.
Title: Re: What's the general feeling about diamond cut alloys?
Post by: Jocko on February 05, 2018, 01:41:27 PM
or the dealer would do it at no charge to 'upgrade' a mid range model.
That was how my mate arranged it.