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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 => Topic started by: how2 on May 27, 2017, 07:47:34 PM
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Hi Guys
Had a crash in my Jazz.
I got rear ended and I hit the car in front. The car behind, driver side hit my rear near side and my front near side hit the rear driver's side.
I called police and they took everyone's details.
Should i post some pics?
The driver driver who hit me first gave me another name then changed it, he is a mini cab driver.
What advice can you give me, I would be grateful for any help.
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Hi how2
Immediately contact the insurance company, take photos of car, take photos of road where it happened. Did you get witness statements or their names
Does you car have camera for driving - if not, you may want to invest in one
Are there any cctv at location of where accident happened - if so, call in and ask if they could let you look and take a copy if captured
Have a hot bath to relax your muscles
Hope no one was seriously injured
Many thanks
John
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Are you a member of AA, RAC or the like. Membership often confers legal cover. Otherwise I agree with John's post.
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If the police were called and attended, they will be OR should be interested in this person. It shrieks of fraud. As he obviously uses more than one name which any copper would wonder is he a disqualified driver?.
There is far to much of this going on. With regard to the law, I have to couch this question carefully, was the offending driver English?
But as already stated if you are a member of any road organisation they might help, indeed your insurers might help. Good luck
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Thanks John and everyone who has contributed.
When it happened I in a slight daze and I told the guy in front to phone the police, while I called my brother to tell him I will be late for my Nephews birthday party.
I exchanged details with both parties and got their names/insurance details and took pics, when the police came they took everyone's Driving licences.
The guy who crashed into me may to be the real driver of the mini cab, that maybe the reason he gave me a different name. None of the other cars stopped.
It was so surreal. I will check with council for CCTV. I do have legal cover with my insurance.
No one was hurt.
I am with quotemehappy, shouls I inform them today by email as they have no call centre or can I wiat till Tuesday.
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If the police were called and attended, they will be OR should be interested in this person. It shrieks of fraud. As he obviously uses more than one name which any copper would wonder is he a disqualified driver?.
There is far to much of this going on. With regard to the law, I have to couch this question carefully, was the offending driver English?
But as already stated if you are a member of any road organisation they might help, indeed your insurers might help. Good luck
My Bro had a knock when a transit pulled onto small single lane island into him - driver - swapped details and thought all was well, my bro insurance company rang him and asked where he got the details of other guys insurance from as they were false, my brother rang other driver to confront him and the young guy said he wasn't driving it was his dad driving WTF - it got really messy, my brother actually recorded a couple of phone conversation with the other driver - truth was police were not interested even though other driver was obviously lying and was not insured, may not have even had a licence.
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The other guy was of the ethnic community who are always in the news.
Phoned my insurance company today, and a woman said it was a write off and worth on £1800 for my 2004 Honda Jazz SE Sport with only 34000 miles.
They said I call ring the Mercedes driver's insurance company to sort it out.
At the moment my company are claiming it on my insurance until the Mercedes driver admits liability.
Phoned again and spoke to a man and he gave me the reference number and I told him that's it's a SE Sport and that they are rare. He told me to get 3 quotes from auto trader and I said will go to 3 Honda dealer to get a quote, he said it must be the exact model.
I do not think £1800 is fair more £3000 to £4000 is fair according to Auto trader.
What do you guys think?
My company is trying to pass the buck and make me do all the work.
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Contact a solicitor. Your legal cover should cover it.
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Damn that sucks :( someone rear-ended my jazz as well so I know how it feels...
but don't ever accept the insurances first offer-thats the rule.
btw that car isn't worth more than the 1800... But try to find some delusional seller ads and show it to them,might get lucky... However no way its 3-4k..
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I think £1800 is OK even with your low mileage, I reckon my 02 SE Sport is worth less than 1k.
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TG
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I do not think £1800 is fair more £3000 to £4000 is fair according to Auto trader.
I just tried auto trader with your car's details and below is the results:
Private guide price
£1,180
Price for: 29 May 2017
Based on good condition.
Part-exchange guide price
£440
Price for: 29 May 2017
Based on good condition.
So I would take the £1800 your been offered, not worth £3k!
My Jazz sport on a 07 plate with 51k on the clock is only worth about £2k
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Lets face it, the car is 13 years old, people but too much importance on low mileage as in modern cars it is rarely the engine and transmission that fails, it is the ravages of UK climate and road salt on the car that does the damage, as JazzyB says, trade in price is less than £500. Many people love their car and unfortunately this clouds their judgment on how much it is worth, it may be worth a lot to you but others see it as just a business transaction. I can remember when most cars (not Volvo or Saab LOL) had rust popping up on bodywork around 3 years, and structural rust (sills and body reinforcing members) after less than 5 years, requiring new parts to be welded in - modern cars are infinitely better in all respects than cars before 1990's - when many were only good for scrap before they were 10 years old.
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These days the majority of car manufacturers allow a 7yr life for most of their models, in the trade mileage over 50k and age +4yrs impacts any offers to buy your car.
Maybe take the final offer on your Jazz then hunt down a model/spec of your choice there are 000's on the market at present.
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Back in the 80's, a friend of mine bought a brand new Datsun 120Y. It needed major welding for its first MOT and was scrapped at its second MOT. Thankfully those days are gone.
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Sorry to hear about this. Your insurance should handle everything so let them deal with it.
When I was growing up in late 1980s, one friends mum had a Datsun Stanza and another had a Peugeot 305. Both cars had rust on the bodywork at just 6-7 years old.
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Yes I'm not trying to sell my car but buy a new car of similar age, specs nad miles.
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My neighbours 2015 plate Dacia has rust all over its body... :D :D
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Not wishing to sound too heartless, but you should maybe consider taking the £1800 and then seeing if you can keep the car and recoup some of the scrap value yourself.
Depending on where you are, I may be interested in the Alloy wheels, for instance.
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I letting them deal with it and see what the other parties insurance company comes up with. I miss my car but it's nice when you have to walks everywhere and keeps you fit.
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It's just the inconvenience of it all more than anything, plus the switch from a car you know to an unknown quantity.
I thought my car was going to be a write off yesterday when I had the 'opportunity' to use the ABS for the first time in 15 years*. Luckily the car pulling out of a garden centre across traffic saw me converging from 50mph and swerved into the oncoming traffic so we ended up parallel. I would have preferred to stop 10ft earlier; I don't think my Jazz stops as quickly as some other cars I have driven recently. I've got Bridgestone RE040 tyres, Honda original pads at 50% but the brake fluid is close to 3 years old now, the ABS was only pulsing at about 3 Hz rather than the 10 Hz or more I might of expected.
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TG
* Except for pre-MOT testing.
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ABS pulsing probably only felt slow due to the overall feeling of time slowing. I know that the two smashes I have experienced both happened in slow motion!
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TG, if I may be bold, renewing the brake fluid in our Jazz made quite a considerable difference to the braking efficiency.
However the fluid was 4 yrs old. ( dealer changed it as a gesture of goodwill????????????? after I had bought the car)
It also made difference to the snatching.
I will clarify, I bought the car and less than a fortnight later had to use hefty braking when I would have expected the ABS to kick in. No matter how good a driver you are is there will always be one to push their luck. The car with a Honda warranty had new pads but clapped discs. After making a fuss brakes were overhauled and then the fluid was changed.
I have just read an article on the sale of goods act and there are a number of well known retailers using the gesture of goodwill when they are liable.
Sorry to wander off a bit.
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ABS pulsing probably only felt slow due to the overall feeling of time slowing. I know that the two smashes I have experienced both happened in slow motion!
ABS only kicks in when one or more tyres loses grip, if you have good tyres and a good dry road surface it may not kick in at all, but may pulse faster with dodgy tyres and less than good road surface as tyres really struggle to grip.
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In my case the ABS didn't kick in because of the very poor state of the brakes and tyres that although having 6mm all round were replaced by Michelins. NOT a good combination in wet weather.
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In my case the ABS didn't kick in because of the very poor state of the brakes and tyres that although having 6mm all round were replaced by Michelins. NOT a good combination in wet weather.
I can accept that poor brakes would mean ABS would not kick in because they did not have enough bite to lock the wheels, but poor tyres (and Michelins are not poor tyres) make it more likely that ABS would activate, as it will activate when it senses 1 or more wheels losing grip.
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I used to regularly descend a steep hill in Gourock, and at the bottom, where a road joined in which could be mistaken as the "main road". I always got this strange feel through the brake pedal as I controlled my speed approaching this iffy junction. It took a few goes before I realised in was the ABS kicking in for a split second. And then I realised why. Near the bottom there was a metal drain cover set into the road and as my front wheel crossed it the tyre would lose grip and the ABS would do its stuff. It was a great way of of checking the ABS was still working!
(http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac347/Jocko_2010/Golf%20Road_zpsww04efao.jpg)
Thanks to Google Maps for the image.
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I used to regularly descend a steep hill in Gourock, and at the bottom, where a road joined in which could be mistaken as the "main road". I always got this strange feel through the brake pedal as I controlled my speed approaching this iffy junction. It took a few goes before I realised in was the ABS kicking in for a split second. And then I realised why. Near the bottom there was a metal drain cover set into the road and as my front wheel crossed it the tyre would lose grip and the ABS would do its stuff. It was a great way of of checking the ABS was still working!
I have got ABS on my motorbike but would still not fancy tangling with that cover, especially if raining. Only good news is that it is not in the middle of a bend.
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To get accustomed to how your car reacts under braking with abs , best done on a track/private road either loose gravel / sand or even wet grass - care needed
Years ago I tested the full range of Subaru's in the wet - all allowed the driver to steer around a hazard object whilst the abs was operating/pulsing