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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 => Topic started by: guest5666 on June 11, 2016, 12:17:01 PM
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Hi guys I have had my Jazz since last September and it's running nicely with no issues. The service history kind of fizzles out over the last couple of years, with the book being 'stamped' with a handwritten 'service done' type note. Subsequently, I want to get a full service done now. It also needs a MOT, so planning to get both done together.
There's a local independant Honda garage not far from me, which was recommended, however, they aren't returning either my emails OR my voice messages. Subsquently, they have lost my business.
I am now looking for any other recommendations around the Stockport / Manchester area?
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I wouldn't necessarily rule out a main dealer (there is one in Stockport on the A6) because a lot of them will price match quotes for servicing from other local garages.
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Yes, Swansway Honda is near me actually. They DO price match, but the terms are far too clever (exact same parts used etc etc) the chances of getting a deal based on pricematch is nigh on impossible. And the price they charge is virtually twice as much as the independant garage.
So, looking for recommendations really.
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That's interesting to know - I've never used the price match thing myself.
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You'd be better asking local friends and family to recommend an independant garage you can trust. I use the chap in my village, works on his own and is cheap. Servicing on a Jazz is straight forward so you don't need bells and whistles.
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Try phoenix Honda he a independent ex Honda technician
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Out of curiosity Googled and found this site; very interesting...
http://www.civinfo.com/wiki/index.php?title=Service_Cost&diff=5179&oldid=prev (http://www.civinfo.com/wiki/index.php?title=Service_Cost&diff=5179&oldid=prev)
Mike.
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I'm feeling rather pleased......
Took out a 5 year service contract, with my local Honda dealer, £695. Works out at £139 per service. ;)
They collect, for the first service, on Monday morning.
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I'm feeling rather pleased......
Took out a 5 year service contract, with my local Honda dealer, £695. Works out at £139 per service. ;)
They collect, for the first service, on Monday morning.
what does the service Include EXACTLY in uk?
synthetic engine oil for my jazz - 16eur
oil filter- 3.5eur
air filter 6eur
I usually just change it myself, when I don't feel like it or want to get something else checked out I bring to my local garage which will change the oil/filter and put the car up in air to look over the underside of any possible faults while the engine oil is dripping out- all for under 10euro.
Comes to about 35eur or £27 with oil/filters and labour, Where does the rest £112 comes from? :'(
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what does the service Include EXACTLY in uk?
It will be serviced, EXACTLY, to Honda's service schedule......
Service Event 1, AB.
.. .. .. .. 2, AB23.
.. .. .. .. 3, AB78.
.. .. .. .. 4, AB23.
.. .. .. .. 5, AB9.
Plus, collection/ delivery to my home......
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what does the service Include EXACTLY in uk?
It will be serviced, EXACTLY, to Honda's service schedule......
Service Event 1, AB.
.. .. .. .. 2, AB23.
.. .. .. .. 3, AB78.
.. .. .. .. 4, AB23.
.. .. .. .. 5, AB9.
Plus, collection/ delivery to my home......
Please break down what is actually done...
Feel like you are being suckered in this and overpaying 3x for absolutely nothing..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_f9Jot2tMQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_f9Jot2tMQ)
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evan halshaw ford do servicing and mot packages lots cheaper in fact for 3 services and mots it was just over the price quoted for 1 from swanway and they are to Honda (manufacturer) specification... worth a look at..
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Here's the 5 year service breakdown.......
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n95/Dayjo/2015%20Onward/IMG_20160615_221819647_zpsj2buqwip.jpg) (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/Dayjo/media/2015%20Onward/IMG_20160615_221819647_zpsj2buqwip.jpg.html)
Including a valeting.
I don't need to comment on that video.......
Evans Halshaw? Not around here.......
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Just on this debate I think, in UK terms and assuming you don't want to do the work yourself, the 5 year deal that Dayjo got was pretty good value for money. It's competitive with what most independents would charge.
My only reservation would be if this discounted price was not recouped by the dealer in the purchase price of the car but it's very difficult to work that out.
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There's usually not much to do on a Jazz in it's first 5 years, but a Honda service plan would cover more than an independent including replacement transmission and brake fluid, plus you'd get software updates which is becoming more important with each new generation.
A Kwikfit / Halfords service might be cheap but is little more than an oil & filter change. For the early cars like mine the full Honda service included the 8 plugs and tappet adjustment if needed and I would notice fresh lubrication spots on many things like my door hinges.
The five year deal is good value for new cars and helps the dealer maintain a relationship with the owner, plus private resale potential is enhanced. The €35 diy option might be better on a €700 car, but not a £16k new car.
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TG
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sitefive.
If, I was 20 years younger... If, like you, I ran a 13yr old car... I would do my own servicing. As I did, during my first 40yrs on the road......
These days, I prefer newer cars, and to have someone do the job for me.
Just on this debate I think, in UK terms and assuming you don't want to do the work yourself, the 5 year deal that Dayjo got was pretty good value for money. It's competitive with what most independents would charge.
My only reservation would be if this discounted price was not recouped by the dealer in the purchase price of the car but it's very difficult to work that out.
Thanks Peteo! I was beginning to feel outnumbered..... :-[
I didn't buy the car, from my local dealer. Their best price, was some £3,000 above, the online deal with BUYACAR.
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...but a Honda service plan would cover more than an independent including replacement transmission and brake fluid, plus you'd get software updates which is becoming more important with each new generation.
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Our Jazz is serviced by an independent. The same independent as our previous car which we drove almost 16 years with zero problems. It is our brother-in-law who owns the independent garage and he's very trustworthy and helpful. But how does that work with software updates? Not i guess...? Are software updates needed and available for a 5+ year old, and how do i find out about them?
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Good post TG. It's why I've usually gone main dealer but if I had a much older car I might well go independent.
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Ok just keep telling yourself that you got a deal, just looked at the pic and it's pretty much what I expected.. A glorified oil change!
I'm not saying to do it yourself, but at least find someone who won't scam you like you have been...
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The Jazz is now booked in for it's free service and free MOT. All came with vouchers when the car was purchased BUT what was interesting was what was included in the confirmation E mail. Did I want a level 1 service which is Oil and Filter change plus service check @ £165 OR Level 2 same as level 1 but changing Air and Cabin filters and adjusting handbrake @£279. So two filters plus handbrake adjustment for £114 not a bad little earner?
I do get a free MOT so it means in theory the service is £120, which I suppose at today's prices is acceptable. I have no choice as it is a voucher but I bought OE Air and Cabin filters at less than £20 and it only took 15 mins or so to change them both.
This is from a dealer that has just won the area dealer of the year!!
So when you have a choice it depends on who you trust. I have just checked the handbrake/rear calipers prior to MOT and found on one side the little gaiter on the guide pin was split and on the other side one of the guide pin bolts had been rounded off. The last people to touch the car was the dealer when they replaced the rear discs and pads. No good complaining because they will merely say it was me.
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I found this interesting article from last year; considering they always charge you the minimum one hour even if the job only takes half that time, I agree that they are on a nice little earner.
In the past I have found that most main dealers charge at least twice the hourly rate than small independents (their excuse is that someone has to pay for the showrooms and lavish exterior). When I bought my Jazz last month I was shown what the previous owner had paid for a service at a Honda main dealer 30 miles away, £450!
I've always used small independents; you just have to find a good reliable trustworthy one. My mate owns such a place just half a mile from me and has been looking after the family's cars for nearly 40 years. :)
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/92314/motorists-face-postcode-lottery-over-car-labour-rates (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/92314/motorists-face-postcode-lottery-over-car-labour-rates)
Mike.
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In regards to updates you can check on Honda websites if a recall work is needed the other thing is if your car is serviced by the dealer and if it goes wrong you probably get goodwill from Honda
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In October, I shall be faced with a question of what to do. For some 50 years I have always looked after my own vehicles. On the odd occasion due to health I have used my local garage. I have also used them for MOT. There you can talk to them and watch them if you have a mind to but having lived here for over 20yrs I would swear by their honesty and friendliness. I am now at the stage whereby crawling under cars is a no no.
When I bought the Honda, it came with a package. 2 yrs free servicing, 2 years warranty and free MOT all the time they service the car. It also included breakdown under Honda care. Clearly a package worth having? Or is it. Obviously the cost is included in the purchase price. I can't say I am overwhelmed by the Dealers attitude. I should not have had to chase them about things that should have been done before the sale. Having found the 2 problems when checking the rear brakes on Friday (although not dangerous) I am seriously thinking of asking my local garage to look after the car. I appreciate that I will have to pay for MOT and breakdown insurance BUT at least if I go independent I will have some degree of not feeling put upon. The car is being serviced on Monday, there is an intermittent whine in 2nd gear, I have asked them to check the oil level in the gear box. I wonder if they will suggest I pay for this, I hope not, because should they try it I am not known for my tolerance of such behaviour.
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auntyneddy; you are in a similar situation that I will be in a years time. When I bought mine a month ago it was serviced and has a years warranty and Honda accident recovery, but when that runs out I shall be using my local independent as I will not want to pay double or more for a service at the Honda main dealer where I got it from. I have nothing against them, they are a good company, just the higher labour costs.
The independents will do the same work (as long as you have a good reliable one like me) for a lot less. They can get all the same parts at the same price should they be needed.
Remember the 'Honda accident recovery' only covers accidents, not breakdowns, so you still need breakdown cover (we use Green Flag as that's the only cheaper one that brings back your vehicle and you home, and not like some cheaper ones that just take it to the nearest garage, be wary of some terms and conditions, read them carefully; I did a lot of research with that one). Even with a £50 MOT to pay for it should still be a lot cheaper to use an independent than a main dealer. :)
Having said all that, if you have a new or nearly new purchase some people may feel happier going to the main dealer if they can afford it.
Mike.
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+1