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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk3 2015-2020 => Topic started by: edam on December 12, 2015, 10:27:46 AM
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My first Jazz I had was a manual but after a ankle injury my next 2 had to be CVT,s.
I'm thinking of buying the MK3 and find that the position and lightness of the clutch pedal much better than previous models. Sitting in a new Jazz I feel that I should be able to drive a manual again.
Dare I go back to a manual after 8 years.
Also I'm finding that my ankle is painful driving the CVT and I'm wondering if keeping the ankle moving by using the clutch pedal could be better for it.
Decisions Decisions
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I'm thinking the CVT, you can always move your foot/ankle to give it some exercise, but with a manual there is no rest for that left foot, only you know the answer. :-)
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I'm with Trebor on this one. I certainly could not go back to a manual after only 2 years with CVts. Also worth bearing in mind that clutches (which are light when new) often seem to get heavier as they wear. Apart from that I find the CVT very enjoyable to drive, something I could never say about a manual.
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I wonder why I bother!
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After 4 years of automatic I would be worried about how quickly the brain would adapt to the need to manually move the gear stick and remember to depress the clutch pedal at the right time.
The one attraction of the manual gearbox is the cost saving.
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I was thinking about getting a refresher driving lesson on a manual but trying to find a instructor with a car I can fit into is difficult.
As for the cost I would have to go for a S if I stick with a CVT and get aftermarket sensors fitted
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Lots of instructors have different size cars, I have a Jazz (but auto). AA has Focus, which chould accommodate most sizes of pupil. Alternatively let me know of your "fit" concerns and you area, and I will see if I can find someone suitable. There are Driving Instructor Facebook pages to help allocate pupils to fellow instructors.
Good luck.
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My "fit" is that I'm 21st, over 6ft tall and have size 13 feet.
Not fit at all really
What I really do like about the MK3 is that its much easier to get in and out of compared to the MK2
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I've recently transferred from a manual Mazda 2 to a CVT Jazz and have no intention of going back any time soon. I travel through a city each work day and the automatic is so much more convenient for the heavy traffic.
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After 4 years of automatic I would be worried about how quickly the brain would adapt to the need to manually move the gear stick and remember to depress the clutch pedal at the right time.
The one attraction of the manual gearbox is the cost saving.
Don't worry about swapping from manual to auto and back - your body and brain are better than you realise. I have had periods of years when i lived abroad and only ever drove auto cars (manual cars were rare as hens teeth), on returning to UK for holidays (hire cars) or moving back for a longer spells both myself and my wife switched back to manuals without a second thought, and my wife has had auto cars in UK which i 'had' to drive when we go out together (she won't drive but doesn't miss a chance to criticise my driving LOL - just like Mrs Hyacinth Bucket on keeping up appearances).
A bigger problem for me is to switch from 6 speed manual box on my Civic over to 5 speed box on my wifes Jazz GE, because 6th gear on Civic is in exactly same place as reverse on the Jazz - ouch !! Honda really missed a trick by not putting 6 speed box in Jazz, it needs extra gear more than Civic because of smaller engine.
Auto boxes are 'convenient' (normally the more 'convenient' things are the more they cost) but nowhere near as engaging as a manual box, and the complexity of auto systems with their special lubricants and continual need for 'flushing' worries me a bit. Having driven autos a lot I can understand anyone who drives in traffic a lot would want one, but I am allergic to cities and traffic anyway.
auto boxes can be better on snow than manuals, if you don't press the loud pedal very hard they will select a higher gear to pull away, reducing torque at driving wheels, but I always pull away in second on slippery roads anyway.
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I drive both Subaru Turbo man & wife's CVT Jazz no issues, suggest you try both boxes then be happy with your choice.
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My "fit" is that I'm 21st, over 6ft tall and have size 13 feet.
Not fit at all really
What I really do like about the MK3 is that its much easier to get in and out of compared to the MK2
Same size as me, man-size ;D
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just like Mrs Violet Bucket on keeping up appearances
I think you'll find her name is Hyacinth !
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A bigger problem for me is to switch from 6 speed manual box on my Civic over to 5 speed box on my wifes Jazz GE, because 6th gear on Civic is in exactly same place as reverse on the Jazz - ouch !! Honda really missed a trick by not putting 6 speed box in Jazz, it needs extra gear more than Civic because of smaller engine.
Honda have put a 6 speed manual box on the Mk 3 Jazz.
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Anytime I hanker after a manual gearbox, I drive for a mile in stop/start traffic and remind myself it would be horrible in a manual.
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I may??? have resolved the problem with ankle pain driving the CVT so one of the reasons for changing back to a manual may??? have gone. Early days though.
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just like Mrs Violet Bucket on keeping up appearances
I think you'll find her name is Hyacinth !
OOOPS Violet was Hyacinths sister, but you can just as well have a bucket of violets or hyacinths - and anyway most flowers look the same to me.
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Don't forget the Rose's as well. :-)
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My "fit" is that I'm 21st, over 6ft tall and have size 13 feet.
Not fit at all really
What I really do like about the MK3 is that its much easier to get in and out of compared to the MK2
I bet your a Policeman ? ;D
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I went to my local Honda dealer yesterday and sat in a manual and it was too painful ,because of my screwed up leg, to use a clutch pedal.
I will have to go for another CVT and try and get the best deal possible.
One dealer is offering 0% credit but how that compares to the £750 deal I don't know
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The answer to your problem is quite simple, do as I do which is drive my auto cars using my left foot instead of my right
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My first Jazz I had was a manual but after a ankle injury my next 2 had to be CVT,s.
I'm thinking of buying the MK3 and find that the position and lightness of the clutch pedal much better than previous models. Sitting in a new Jazz I feel that I should be able to drive a manual again.
Dare I go back to a manual after 8 years.
Also I'm finding that my ankle is painful driving the CVT and I'm wondering if keeping the ankle moving by using the clutch pedal could be better for it.
Decisions Decisions
First of all, sorry for my English...
Now you feel the new Jazz clutch pedal very light and easy to be operated, but usually clutches becomes heavier following their wear. So you could find problems when the car will pass some years and miles.
And don't be worried about "not using" your left leg when you drive: Americans love AT, so their right legs should be bigger than left ones so the right works and the left not... After a ten minutes walk you'll be OK.
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I wish it was that simple
I may have resolved the problem with my ankle by sitting a bit further to the right on the seat. As this seems to work on my Mk2 I cant see me changing