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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 => Topic started by: guest5669 on October 07, 2015, 07:25:09 PM
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I fitted a couple of Osram Silver Stars over the weekend and I have to say they've made a big difference especially dark nights . I hope you like the shot ;D
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Ohhh very nice.
Are they just replacement bulbs?
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Ohhh very nice.
Are they just replacement bulbs?
Yes they are Sylvia takes about 10 mins to fit and makes a world of difference from the standard ones. :)
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Ohhh very nice.
Are they just replacement bulbs?
Yes they are Sylvia takes about 10 mins to fit and makes a world of difference from the standard ones. :)
Have used xenon bulbs (various Halfords / Bosch xenon / Phillips Xtreme Vision / Osram nightbreakers) and they are really worth fitting as I needed all the light I could get on my previous 75 mile roundtrip A and B road commute, especially in wet weather. Not sure about Osram silver stars as they still use Halogen gas. Found Phillips had better beam pattern (sharper cut-off and light distribution, and night breakers were a bit brighter but spread the light around a bit more (more fuzzy spread of light). You do get shorter life than standard Halogen bulbs, but much brighter for same wattage and both intensity and life are getting better as filament and gas technology improves, mine used to last about 18 months but they had a lot of use - they normally last about 500 hours. You can get Phiilips Xtreme Vision from Powerbulbs.com for less than £30 a pair.
http://www.powerbulbs.com/store/category/car-bulbs/fitting/h4-472 (http://www.powerbulbs.com/store/category/car-bulbs/fitting/h4-472)
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I did the same many years ago with some Ring Ice Blue bulbs. A much better footprint on the road.
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Are these bulbs the eye painful 'Blue' or pukka 'White' ?
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Are these bulbs the eye painful 'Blue' or pukka 'White' ?
They are in fact Silver White ,i'm not to keen on blue but these are next step down from Xenons.
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Are these bulbs the eye painful 'Blue' or pukka 'White' ?
They are in fact Silver White , I'm not too keen on blue but these are next step down from Xenons.
Silver white sounds good. I hate the blue as it makes both of out eyes hurt. I've just got to persuade Mrs O that its a good idea now :P
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xenon gas bulbs are whitest filament bulb you can get, whiter than Halogen, bulbs only give blue light if a filter layer is put on them.
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Are these bulbs the eye painful 'Blue' or pukka 'White' ?
They are in fact Silver White , I'm not too keen on blue but these are next step down from Xenons.
Silver white sounds good. I hate the blue as it makes both of out eyes hurt. I've just got to persuade Mrs O that its a good idea now :P
Ordered!
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Arrived yesterday, fitted today. Do Honda use midgets to assemble the front end? My paws had great trouble getting into the 'space' between the light fitting and the bulkhead.
Oh for the 70's when engine bays were big enough to climb into and still have space to work :P (I loved working on the Triumph Spitfire. You could sit on the front wheel to access the whole engine bay. Bliss.
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Arrived yesterday, fitted today. Do Honda use midgets to assemble the front end? My paws had great trouble getting into the 'space' between the light fitting and the bulkhead.
Oh for the 70's when engine bays were big enough to climb into and still have space to work :P (I loved working on the Triumph Spitfire. You could sit on the front wheel to access the whole engine bay. Bliss.
Did they make a difference on your motor?
Indeed its very tight in their, but I like them nice and tight ;D
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Did they make a difference on your motor?
Indeed its very tight in there, but I like them nice and tight ;D
I've not been out in the dark yet, but even in the daylight they are brighter than the stock. I just swapped one to start with so I could compare them. Colour of the light seems very similar too.
The only other problem was getting the bloody things out of the bloody packing. Almost as tight as the access in the car
EDIT:- Just tried them in the dark (albeit not actually driving) and they light output is great. I think you could use them to signal the Martians 8)
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Did they make a difference on your motor?
Indeed its very tight in there, but I like them nice and tight ;D
I've not been out in the dark yet, but even in the daylight they are brighter than the stock. I just swapped one to start with so I could compare them. Colour of the light seems very similar too.
The only other problem was getting the bloody things out of the bloody packing. Almost as tight as the access in the car
EDIT:- Just tried them in the dark (albeit not actually driving) and they light output is great. I think you could use them to signal the Martians 8)
Which ones did you end up buying Mr Onion? And where did you get them from?
Sylv :-)
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I used PowerBulbs Sylv
http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/philips-xtreme-vision-130-h4-twin (http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/philips-xtreme-vision-130-h4-twin)
Free delivery and 20% off if you remember to use the discount code. Nice sturdy box and lots of bubble.
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I used PowerBulbs Sylv
http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/philips-xtreme-vision-130-h4-twin (http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/philips-xtreme-vision-130-h4-twin)
Free delivery and 20% off if you remember to use the discount code. Nice sturdy box and lots of bubble.
These are not has good as Osram Silver Star IMO guys, but each to their own. I got mine off Amazon
UK.http://www.amazon.co.uk/SILVERSTAR-halogen-headlamp-64193SV2-HCB-double/dp/B009ATQLM8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444770815&sr=8-1&keywords=osram+silverstar+2.0 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/SILVERSTAR-halogen-headlamp-64193SV2-HCB-double/dp/B009ATQLM8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444770815&sr=8-1&keywords=osram+silverstar+2.0)
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I went for the Philips after chatting with PowerBulbs.
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I used PowerBulbs Sylv
Cheaper on Amazon ::)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NMEEOV2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NMEEOV2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE)
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I used PowerBulbs Sylv
Cheaper on Amazon ::)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NMEEOV2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NMEEOV2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE)
Maybe so, but price is not the be all and end all as far as I am concerned. Good advice costs, and I for one do not mind paying. Call me foolish if you like, but the small shop with the small shop service needs to be encouraged.
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Call me foolish if you like, but the small shop with the small shop service needs to be encouraged.
Sorry the post was not meant to be personal and quite agree good advice can be worth it, just a link to cheaper suppliers in case others were considering upgrading. :'(
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Call me foolish if you like, but the small shop with the small shop service needs to be encouraged.
Sorry the post was not meant to be personal and quite agree good advice can be worth it, just a link to cheaper suppliers in case others were considering upgrading. :'(
Fair enough, and apologies for flying off the handle a bit
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I used PowerBulbs Sylv
http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/philips-xtreme-vision-130-h4-twin (http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/philips-xtreme-vision-130-h4-twin)
Free delivery and 20% off if you remember to use the discount code. Nice sturdy box and lots of bubble.
These are not has good as Osram Silver Star IMO guys, but each to their own. I got mine off Amazon
UK.http://www.amazon.co.uk/SILVERSTAR-halogen-headlamp-64193SV2-HCB-double/dp/B009ATQLM8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444770815&sr=8-1&keywords=osram+silverstar+2.0 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/SILVERSTAR-halogen-headlamp-64193SV2-HCB-double/dp/B009ATQLM8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444770815&sr=8-1&keywords=osram+silverstar+2.0)
From what I can see Silver star are +60% Halogen and Phillips Xtreme vision are +130% Xenon- no contest as addition of Xenon gas to bulb allows filament to burn brighter without burning out. I started off many years ago upgrading bulbs when upgrades first became available and when Xenon bulbs appeared they were much better than any Halogen bulb. I have used Xtreme bright in very challenging conditions ( twisty country B roads with no white line at the edge in all weathers) and been very happy with them. It is true with bulbs you get what you pay for and although Xtreme bright cost more than double Silver Star its well worth it for extra beam throw and brightness.
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Thanks for all your help.
Now I'm really confused. I just want nice bright lights and don't know which ones.
Halogen, zenon gas? Huh, explain the difference please! :-[
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Thanks for all your help.
Now I'm really confused. I just want nice bright lights and don't know which ones.
Halogen, zenon gas? Huh, explain the difference please! :-[
You won't go wrong with Silver Stars, I prefer them over the Philips. ;D
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Thanks for all your help.
Now I'm really confused. I just want nice bright lights and don't know which ones.
Halogen, zenon gas? Huh, explain the difference please! :-[
Would you prefer 60% brighter than your standard OEM bulb or 130% brighter is the only question. You pay £10 for 60% brighter Silver star halogen bulbs, for the much brighter Phillips Xtreme bright Xenon you pay £20 (Amazon) to £24 (PowerBulbs) per pair. By the way they are both 55Watt dipped and 60Watt main beam power the same as the Honda OEM bulbs so are road legal and won't burn out your car wiring.
Xenon gas lets the filament burn at a higher temperature so you get more light output and a whiter light from the Xenon bulb.
By the way if you change your own bulbs do not touch the glass part of the bulb, if you do the acid and salt on your skin will attack the special high temperature glass and the bulb will fail withing a few hours. If you touch glass by accident get a paper towel dipped in methylated spirits and wipe the glass carefully and wipe it dry with a clean cotton cloth (clean hankerchief ) or paper towel.
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Thanks for all your help.
Now I'm really confused. I just want nice bright lights and don't know which ones.
Halogen, zenon gas? Huh, explain the difference please! :-[
Would you prefer 60% brighter than your standard OEM bulb or 130% brighter is the only question. You pay £10 for 60% brighter Silver star halogen bulbs, for the much brighter Phillips Xtreme bright Xenon you pay £20 (Amazon) to £24 (PowerBulbs) per pair. By the way they are both 55Watt dipped and 60Watt main beam power the same as the Honda OEM bulbs so are road legal and won't burn out your car wiring.
Xenon gas lets the filament burn at a higher temperature so you get more light output and a whiter light from the Xenon bulb.
By the way if you change your own bulbs do not touch the glass part of the bulb, if you do the acid and salt on your skin will attack the special high temperature glass and the bulb will fail withing a few hours. If you touch glass by accident get a paper towel dipped in methylated spirits and wipe the glass carefully and wipe it dry with a clean cotton cloth (clean hankerchief ) or paper towel.
I certainly don't want to burn out the wiring.
I want bright legal lights.
I'm gonna go for the Phillips xenon ones.
Thanks for your help.
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I used PowerBulbs Sylv
http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/philips-xtreme-vision-130-h4-twin (http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/philips-xtreme-vision-130-h4-twin)
Free delivery and 20% off if you remember to use the discount code. Nice sturdy box and lots of bubble.
These are not has good as Osram Silver Star IMO guys, but each to their own. I got mine off Amazon
UK.http://www.amazon.co.uk/SILVERSTAR-halogen-headlamp-64193SV2-HCB-double/dp/B009ATQLM8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444770815&sr=8-1&keywords=osram+silverstar+2.0 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/SILVERSTAR-halogen-headlamp-64193SV2-HCB-double/dp/B009ATQLM8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444770815&sr=8-1&keywords=osram+silverstar+2.0)
From what I can see Silver star are +60% Halogen and Phillips Xtreme vision are +130% Xenon- no contest as addition of Xenon gas to bulb allows filament to burn brighter without burning out. I started off many years ago upgrading bulbs when upgrades first became available and when Xenon bulbs appeared they were much better than any Halogen bulb. I have used Xtreme bright in very challenging conditions ( twisty country B roads with no white line at the edge in all weathers) and been very happy with them. It is true with bulbs you get what you pay for and although Xtreme bright cost more than double Silver Star its well worth it for extra beam throw and brightness.
Have a look at the reviews on Amazon UK about the Philips Xtreme vision. Ive also got them on my VW TIG and they're no way better by 130%, don't always believe what it says in there Advertisements ?
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Would you prefer 60% brighter than your standard OEM bulb or 130% brighter is the only question. You pay £10 for 60% brighter Silver star halogen bulbs, for the much brighter Phillips Xtreme bright Xenon you pay £20 (Amazon) to £24 (PowerBulbs) per pair. By the way they are both 55Watt dipped and 60Watt main beam power the same as the Honda OEM bulbs so are road legal and won't burn out your car wiring.</snip>
PowerBulbs have a 20% off offer, which makes them the same price as The River.
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Have a look at the reviews on Amazon UK about the Philips Xtreme vision. Ive also got them on my VW TIG and they're no way better by 130%, don't always believe what it says in there Advertisements ?
I no more believe adverts than I believe on line reviews. Most reviews are written by disgruntled customers with an axe to grind. Forums can be better (at least you know a little about the person writing the review and any agenda they may or may not have) and of course my reviews are impeccable ;D
Ask for dealer advice, at least you have a comeback if you are not happy
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I no more believe adverts than I believe on line reviews. Most reviews are written by disgruntled customers with an axe to grind. Forums can be better (at least you know a little about the person writing the review and any agenda they may or may not have) and of course my reviews are impeccable ;D
James they can't all be wrong? I myself have got a set of the Philips and when I put them up against my TIG and Jazz i'd take Osram's all day every day mate ;D
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So now I'm thinking
Osram Silver Stars are the way to go. 8)
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Osram Silver Stars are the way to go. 8)
I have just ordered some on Ebay, £9.01 with free postage.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-Genuine-Osram-Silverstar-2-0-H4-472-60-55w-12v-Bulbs-64193SV2-HCB-/351285822585?hash=item51ca444479 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-Genuine-Osram-Silverstar-2-0-H4-472-60-55w-12v-Bulbs-64193SV2-HCB-/351285822585?hash=item51ca444479)
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Osram Silver Stars are the way to go. 8)
I have just ordered some on Ebay, £9.01 with free postage.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-Genuine-Osram-Silverstar-2-0-H4-472-60-55w-12v-Bulbs-64193SV2-HCB-/351285822585?hash=item51ca444479 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-Genuine-Osram-Silverstar-2-0-H4-472-60-55w-12v-Bulbs-64193SV2-HCB-/351285822585?hash=item51ca444479)
Me too,
thanks for the link. :)
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My mod is costing a lot more than £10.00.
I've ordered a new HR-v with led headlights. I wonder how good they will be. Has anyone ever seen any?
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My mod is costing a lot more than £10.00.
I've ordered a new HR-v with led headlights. I wonder how good they will be. Has anyone ever seen any?
I hope they are worth it. ;)
can't wait to see a pic of them. 8)
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My mod is costing a lot more than £10.00.
I've ordered a new HR-v with led headlights. I wonder how good they will be. Has anyone ever seen any?
This should give you an idea on the new HRV's lights look very nice indeed.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB0QtwIwAGoVChMImeLVlqjFyAIViFUUCh3iPwL7&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6LanAm0e9Bw&usg=AFQjCNHF_7znvLp63ZxVPX4-FOe40OPUqA&bvm=bv.105039540,d.bGQ (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB0QtwIwAGoVChMImeLVlqjFyAIViFUUCh3iPwL7&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6LanAm0e9Bw&usg=AFQjCNHF_7znvLp63ZxVPX4-FOe40OPUqA&bvm=bv.105039540,d.bGQ)
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can't wait to see a pic of them. 8)
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Will let you know, but I have to wait another 8 weeks yet.
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Osram Silverstars delivered this morning and fitted, fitted the offside first and then compared the brightness with the nearside original before fitting that side, there was a noticeable increase in brilliance between the two even in daylight, have just come back from a drive this evening in the dark along local town and country roads and there is a marked and good improvement both in brilliance and increased beam penetration, all things considered a worthwhile modification for only £9.01. :)
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Osram Silverstars delivered this morning and fitted, fitted the offside first and then compared the brightness with the nearside original before fitting that side, there was a noticeable increase in brilliance between the two even in daylight, have just come back from a drive this evening in the dark along local town and country roads and there is a marked and good improvement both in brilliance and increased beam penetration, all things considered a worthwhile modification for only £9.01. :)
I ordered mine the same day as you did and not received mine yet. :(
But glad you're pleased with them. Can't wait to get mine now.
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I ordered mine the same day as you did and not received mine yet. :(
The carrier pigeon is obviously faster in Cornwall than Devon. ;D
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I ordered mine the same day as you did and not received mine yet. :(
The carrier pigeon is obviously faster in Cornwall than Devon. ;D
Must have flown to the front of the queue on Tamar bridge then :D
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At last, they arrived today.
:)
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At last, they arrived today.
:)
Happy Days Sylvia enjoy. :D
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I guess the bulbs are relatively easy to replace?
Havent even looked yet :D
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Unplug the cable, pull off the rubber boot, un clip the clippy thing that holds the bulb in place and pull the bulb out.
Wipe blood off of you hand where you managed to hit the sharp edge, and reverse the process.
The only difficult thing is you can not see what you are doing, and if you have hands like mine (the size of York Hams) its a bit tight.
... and remember not to touch the glass envelope of the bulb
(http://www.paulstravelpictures.com/Honda-Fit-Jazz-Headlight-Bulbs-Replacement-Guide/Honda-Fit-Jazz-Headlight-Bulbs-Replacement-Guide-016.JPG)
(http://www.paulstravelpictures.com/Honda-Fit-Jazz-Headlight-Bulbs-Replacement-Guide/Honda-Fit-Jazz-Headlight-Bulbs-Replacement-Guide-023.JPG)
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Wipe blood off of you hand where you managed to hit the sharp edge, and reverse the process.
Yep I will second that, have some tissues ready.
It is tight and you have to do it all by feel unless you have eyes on stalks. :o
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Unplug the cable, pull off the rubber boot, un clip the clippy thing that holds the bulb in place
"Clippy thing"
My kind of technical talk Mr O :D
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Unplug the cable, pull off the rubber boot, un clip the clippy thing that holds the bulb in place
"Clippy thing"
My kind of technical talk Mr O :D
(http://s28.postimg.org/ec1cz4d7d/g_curtsey.gif) Thank you, its nice to find a Lady who likes Tech-Speak. Have I pulled? :-* ;)
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Unplug the cable, pull off the rubber boot, un clip the clippy thing that holds the bulb in place
"Clippy thing"
My kind of technical talk Mr O :D
(http://s28.postimg.org/ec1cz4d7d/g_curtsey.gif) Thank you, its nice to find a Lady who likes Tech-Speak. Have I pulled? :-* ;)
Get ya coat Mr O ....... ;D
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Well, the weekend was a great test for the new bulbs.
Night driving up and down an unlit mountain, thick fog on the motorway, and driving round a cemetery on Halloween (yes really)
Fantastic light quality, great penetration (ooer missus) no glare, and great cut off on dipped beam.
Really excellent.
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I still don't know which bulbs will be the best... Osram Night Breaker Unlimited, Osram Cool Blue Intense or Osram Silverstar 2.0
Color temperature, lumen, price for 2 bulbs:
- Silverstar (3200K) 1650/1000 lm € 12.99
- Night Breaker (3900K) 1650/1000 lm € 24.99
- Cool Blue (4100K) 1650/1000 lm € 31.49
- Philips X-tremeVision (3700K) 1650/1000 lm € 37,99
- Osram Standard Halogen (4000K) 1650/1000 lm € 12,58
- Osram Ultra Life (3200K) 1650/1000 lm € 11,99
Based on the reviews on the online webshop the price/quality (read lifespan) of the Cool Blue and the Philips bulb are far from good (less than 8 months).
The lifespan of the standard halogen bulb is twice the lifespan of the Silverstar, Night Breaker, Cool Blue and X-tremevision. The Utra Life lives 3 times longer than the Standard halogen.
More light, whiter light, i thought i could find that in Lumen and Kelvin? But the Standard halogen color is whiter than the Silverstar and Night Breaker and the Ultra Life lives up to 6 times longer than the Silverstar with the same lumen and kelvin. Plus all the lumens are the same.
Where do i go wrong? ???
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I can vouch for night breakers, I have had them for a couple of years at least and they are very bright and give a good spread of light.
Just done a search and they are easily found from £13.45 for a pair.
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beware any bulb that has a colour because the colour comes from a coating on the glass envelope, so less actual usable light gets out of the bulb.
a lower colour temperature light (more yellowish) is actually better in damp, rainy, foggy conditions because light at yellow end of spectrum doesn't get absorbed and scattered anywhere near as much as light at blue end.
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My best mod for winter = changed wiper blades. ;)
Also changed oil over for thinner stuff for cold starts :D which i think i got from halfords when it had its £10 offer on.
Ford spec oil apparently, but beats specs which honda state anyways.
Oh and I bunged some heavily discounted windscreen cleaner in with de-icer. :( but ever since temperature has never gone under 7 degree c in the mornings here. :'(
If i come across any jazz's with lights dazzling me from about 10 mile away I will personally insert the bulbs where the sun don't shine. :D so be warned, no over the top lights please.
Nah, actually I think it's audi's or seat's which seem to be the worst culprits where I live. Why the police don't pull them over and slap them with a ticket I don't know.
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My best mod for winter = changed wiper blades. ;) <snip>
Oh and I bunged some heavily discounted windscreen cleaner in with de-icer. :( but ever since temperature has never gone under 7 degree c in the mornings here. :'( <snip>
Totally agree with both of those. Proper Windscreen cleaning fluid is FAR better than the home made washing up liquid mix. I always use a hight concentrate, it makes cleaning off the road muck far easier.
One other thing. Rain X (or a similar product) makes the windscreen wipers life far easier as well as improving visibility in all rain conditions.
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The plastics and poly's used in cars are very susceptible to the liquids that run through them.
On my 5 series the wash wiper tubing array fell apart and I had to reconstruct it - then the garage admitted that the BMW wiper additive is one of a very few additives that wont destroy the tubing!
For instance BMW and VW have very specifically designed tubing that shrinks or goes brittle if the wrong fuel is put through them.
Also washing up liquid can cause a foam to set inside the spray jet sealing the tube solid.
But I guess Honda might be less underhand about these things than our Teutonic cousins. So you might be OK putting your own concoction in. I would not tempt fate my self.
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One other thing. Rain X (or a similar product) makes the windscreen wipers life far easier as well as improving visibility in all rain conditions.
I tried rainex on car windows (and motorbike helmet visor) many times, makes getting flies off visor easier and ice off car side windows in winter. but once the wipers and washer liquid have had a play with the rainex on your windscreen it seems to make windscreen smeary, I even tried the rainex you can add to your washer bottle, my advice is to keep well away from it as my screen went really smeary and I deliberately pumped the washer bottle empty as quick as I could and filled it up with fresh (rainex free) screenwash, had to give the screen a really good clean as well and it gradually got better but I will steer clear of rainex in future.
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I find cleaning the screen and wiper blades regularly with Autoglym Fast Glass helps to prolong blade life plus using a good screenwash in the washer bottle.
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I can vouch for night breakers, I have had them for a couple of years at least and they are very bright and give a good spread of light.
Just done a search and they are easily found from £13.45 for a pair.
Night Breakers it will be! :)
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Changed the standard head bulbs yesterday for Osram Night Breaker Unlimited bulbs. In 5 minutes done. :)
But now those parking light are looking very yellow. :o Want to change them to (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/19/6888f2eed6e9c101cf243afe0822f6b5.jpg)Philips White Vision ones, what did you do?
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Changed the standard head bulbs yesterday for Osram Night Breaker Unlimited bulbs. In 5 minutes done. :)
But now those parking light are looking very yellow. :o Want to change them to
ain't they just? Thats on my 'to do' list as well
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But now those parking light are looking very yellow. :o
I fitted these a few weeks ago, very white light. :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-ERROR-FREE-CANBUS-W5W-T10-501-LED-SIDE-NUMBER-LIGHT-Bulb-5-SMD-Xenon-White-/220974676870?hash=item33731dfb86 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-ERROR-FREE-CANBUS-W5W-T10-501-LED-SIDE-NUMBER-LIGHT-Bulb-5-SMD-Xenon-White-/220974676870?hash=item33731dfb86)
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^^^
Thanks, I'll get a couple
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I've currently got a 42 led version on and they are bright and very white
So white that they sometimes look blue
Although I'm thinking about wrapping my headlights with the yellow film so all the effort that goes into making them white goes out the window
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I changed sidelights for leds off ebay over 12 months ago and they have been fine.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ERROR-FREE-CANBUS-W5W-T10-501-5-SMD-LED-SIDE-LIGHT-BULB-/281248230835?hash=item417bb36db3 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ERROR-FREE-CANBUS-W5W-T10-501-5-SMD-LED-SIDE-LIGHT-BULB-/281248230835?hash=item417bb36db3)
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But now those parking light are looking very yellow. :o
I fitted these a few weeks ago, very white light. :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-ERROR-FREE-CANBUS-W5W-T10-501-LED-SIDE-NUMBER-LIGHT-Bulb-5-SMD-Xenon-White-/220974676870?hash=item33731dfb86 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-ERROR-FREE-CANBUS-W5W-T10-501-LED-SIDE-NUMBER-LIGHT-Bulb-5-SMD-Xenon-White-/220974676870?hash=item33731dfb86)
Could you show us a photo when you've fitted them please? Cheers Steve.
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... and don't forget to check your tyre pressures. I checked ours a month ago and today they are down by 2psi per corner.
Don't rely on the crappy gauge they have on forecourt air lines either. Invest in a decent calibrated gauge. The one I have is no longer available, but its similar to this.
(https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F41ShNgCr3ML._SX300_.jpg&sp=aa9f7c68f293904fb499fc2e951c23d1)
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... and don't forget to check your tyre pressures. I checked ours a month ago and today they are down by 2psi per corner.
Ambient daytime temperature a month ago was probably 20 degrees, today its more like 2 degrees so pressure may well be lower, but a bit less pressure is good on snow Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::) and we will all have some soon, blame me if you like, weather was fine until I put my wifes winter tyres on last weekend.
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... and don't forget to check your tyre pressures. I checked ours a month ago and today they are down by 2psi per corner.
Ambient daytime temperature a month ago was probably 20 degrees, today its more like 2 degrees so pressure may well be lower, but a bit less pressure is good on snow Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::) and we will all have some soon, blame me if you like, weather was fine until I put my wifes winter tyres on last weekend.
... but how often are you driving on snow? (by which I mean snow and nothing else) Winter driving consists of snow/slush/rain as well as dry tarmac. Correct tyre pressure (like most things) is a compromise.
re cold air and tyre pressure
When setting your pressures with cold tyres (tyre temperature at the outside ambient temperature), set them to the vehicle manufacturers’ recommended pressures.
from:- http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/learn-share/care-guide/cold-weather-tips (http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/learn-share/care-guide/cold-weather-tips)
I have never found the need to swap to winter tyres despite living as far afield as the South Coast and the North East (as well as frequent Mountain Snow driving in South Wales)
All IMHO of course.
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I have never found the need to swap to winter tyres despite living as far afield as the South Coast and the North East (as well as frequent Mountain Snow driving in South Wales)
All IMHO of course.
I wouldn't have tried winter tyres either, despite having strugged through some of the worst winters on record. When my wife bought her GE Si it didn't have a spare wheel, so instead of spending bad money on a spacesaver wheelbarrow tyre I checked out mytyres and spent good money on a set of 4 Nokian WR D3 175/65 R15 on steel wheels for just over 300 notes, so she could use one as a full sized spare. Although we had very little snow by us last year I did get to try them out on about 1 - 2" of snow and some icy roads, well it was a revelation, I did some slaloming, hard braking and accelerating and results were very, very impressive especially braking when ABS hardly cut-in. I tried the same stuff in the Civic with pretty new Michelin ES+ tyres and nearly spun it 180 plus wheelspin when trying to pull away carefully in second gear, and braking, well less said about that the better.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/89345/nokian-wr-d3-tyre-review# (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/89345/nokian-wr-d3-tyre-review#)
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/92873/all-season-tyre-test-2015-results-by-category (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/92873/all-season-tyre-test-2015-results-by-category)
http://www.wheels.ca/news/all-weather-tires-are-not-the-same-as-all-season-and-heres-why/ (http://www.wheels.ca/news/all-weather-tires-are-not-the-same-as-all-season-and-heres-why/)
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I hope you don't think I am being rude (because I am not) but maybe its all down to driving style.
Neither Mrs O nor myself have experienced wheel spin etc on snow. Yes I have experienced driving on ice in pre ABS days (Escort 1300 mk1 since you didn't ask. Rear wheel drive and all) I saw others fall off the road and on stopping to help my shoes had no grip on the icy road.
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I hope you don't think I am being rude (because I am not) but maybe its all down to driving style.
Neither Mrs O nor myself have experienced wheel spin etc on snow. Yes I have experienced driving on ice in pre ABS days (Escort 1300 mk1 since you didn't ask. Rear wheel drive and all) I saw others fall off the road and on stopping to help my shoes had no grip on the icy road.
Definitely not down to driving style, that's why the rest of us "europeans" use winter tyres. Plenty of threads on here with all the links that prove the benefits, especially braking distance which will mean the difference to killing a kid or not!
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But now those parking light are looking very yellow. :o
I fitted these a few weeks ago, very white light. :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-ERROR-FREE-CANBUS-W5W-T10-501-LED-SIDE-NUMBER-LIGHT-Bulb-5-SMD-Xenon-White-/220974676870?hash=item33731dfb86 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-ERROR-FREE-CANBUS-W5W-T10-501-LED-SIDE-NUMBER-LIGHT-Bulb-5-SMD-Xenon-White-/220974676870?hash=item33731dfb86)
All right, I surrender. How the *beep* do you get the sidelights out? I have pulled, pushes, twisted, sworn (especially the latter) with no joy. I suppose I could dismantle the car ...
... that might be easier :P
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sworn (especially the latter)
That definitely helps :), they turn approximately 1/4 of a turn but as you have found out they are not easy to get at and they are bl**dy tight, also they only fit one way so as you remove them make sure you note the alignment as they come out, I didn't and it took me ages and a lot of cursing before I figured out how to get them back in. :-[
The LED's are polarity conscious so test they are working before refitting them, if they do not come on reverse them in the holder.
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Make sure you're trying to remove the sidelight-- if you let your fingers do the looking you may find ( as I did) that you're trying to unplug the (I presume) headlight level adjust. The easiest one to do is on the drivers side, check from the front where the sidelight is and get your fingers round the back, then a 1/4 turn and out it comes. Once you've done it it's a doddle, as much as anything can be a doddle on a modern car.
Alternatively, wait until bob a job week and pay a boy scout with tiny hands, 5p to do it for you !
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Thanks both. Yes, I did try removing the headlamp height adjuster before I realised it was the wrong thing.
yeh, I thought it was a quarter turn type thingie. Now I KNOW thats what it is, I'll try again tomorrow. Hopefuly it will be a ;little warmer then.
Though I still think it'll be easier to dismantle the car
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Thanks both. Yes, I did try removing the headlamp height adjuster before I realised it was the wrong thing.
yeh, I thought it was a quarter turn type thingie. Now I KNOW thats what it is, I'll try again tomorrow. Hopefuly it will be a ;little warmer then.
Though I still think it'll be easier to dismantle the car
Don't forget to make photos for a 'DIY changing parking/side light bulbs' ;D I'll wait for before changing mine.
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Don't forget to make photos for a 'DIY changing parking/side light bulbs' ;D I'll wait for before changing mine.
How the *beep* do you expect me to get a line of sight to the *beep*ing bulb holder, fit my hand in and take photos all at the same time??
I'll try, but TBH I don't know if it'll work.
*thinks* maybe use a mirror so see the unseeable
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Could you show us a photo when you've fitted them please? Cheers Steve.
As requested, LED sidelights.
(http://s23.postimg.org/z8wt03p7v/Car_sidelights_001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
pic host (http://postimage.org/)
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Could you show us a photo when you've fitted them please? Cheers Steve.
As requested.
(http://s23.postimg.org/z8wt03p7v/Car_sidelights_001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
pic host (http://postimage.org/)
They look very smart indeed , were they hard to fit? Cheers Steve.
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They look very smart indeed , were they hard to fit? Cheers Steve.
Suggest a quick read of the previous half dozen posts in this thread. ;D
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Don't forget to make photos for a 'DIY changing parking/side light bulbs' ;D I'll wait for before changing mine.
As Requested (http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=7565.0)
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Not an exciting modification but certainly under £10 as I was gifted the material some years ago.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/609/23034801040_a38265c460_z.jpg)
Reflective tape added to the doors and tailgate.
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I found the biggest difficulty changing the sidelights for LEDS was the plastic holders had stuck, once they were freed off it wasn't too bad.
The headlights were a pain because Mr Honda didn't realise western males have much bigger hands. However a mirror helped to see to put back the 'spring' Still the improvement in lighting was well worth the effort.
Is it worth changing the front indicators with LEDS?
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Is it worth changing the front indicators with LEDS?
I have never had an indicator bulb blow in a car, they seem to last forever - so I wouldn't change them and they are easy enough to get to quickly if one ever does blow. Also need to check if it is a thermal or electronic indicator relay in Jazz, if electronic it should handle lower current draw of LED lamps - if thermal it will need the current drawn by filament lamps to operate at proper flash rate (could try CANBUS LED lamps which have a resistor in parallel with LED to draw more current and fool the CANBUS monitoring in cars with this feature that the bulb hasn't blown). Personally I don't like the abrupt way LED indicators turn on and off, I like the fading in and out you get with a filament lamp - makes them a bit more friendly on the eye I always think.
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Interesting posts here. I was out last night and had horrid feeling that my headlights were not 'on'... some roads are poorer lit and more in need of own lights.
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I changed the sidelights to LED's today, well one of them anyway the other one I had to get the garage to do the job as my hands covered in blood (joke) it was painful though . I'm not sure about these LED's think there to blue TBH?
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Thank you Culzean, sure sign the old brain cells are going. Of course I should have remembered about resistance. After all a sure sign a bulb has gone on the indicator circuit is that everything on that circuit flashes more quickly.