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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk3 2015-2020 => Topic started by: Paulwhitt20 on September 17, 2015, 09:28:25 PM

Title: Spare wheel
Post by: Paulwhitt20 on September 17, 2015, 09:28:25 PM
The car does not come with a spare wheel but a can of gunk instead. In fact there is not even a jack included- penny pinching and weight saving! The dealer quoted £200 for a space save spare, not sure if this includes a jack or not.

Does anyone know what size will fit. My EX has 16 wheels but I presume a 15 would do. I was looking at civic wheels but they seem to be five stud and the Jazz is four stud. Would a MK 2 jazz spare wheel fit?

Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: Ozzie on September 17, 2015, 09:37:09 PM
My 2011 HS didn't have a spare, but I bought one off Ebay that was actually a Corsa steel wheel, which has the same diameters, however my wheels are 15".
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: monkeydave on September 17, 2015, 10:00:15 PM
The car does not come with a spare wheel but a can of gunk instead. In fact there is not even a jack included- penny pinching and weight saving! The dealer quoted £200 for a space save spare, not sure if this includes a jack or not.

Does anyone know what size will fit. My EX has 16 wheels but I presume a 15 would do. I was looking at civic wheels but they seem to be five stud and the Jazz is four stud. Would a MK 2 jazz spare wheel fit?

the jack is right at the back behind the storage area below the boot latch
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: edam on September 17, 2015, 10:10:49 PM
You beat me to it.
I was trying to describe where it was in my MK2
I can add that's in the space inside the rear bumper
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: Downsizer on September 17, 2015, 10:47:04 PM
50 mph Spare wheels from the old rover 25/45 series have 4 studs and are available cheaply unused from breakers' yards.  I have carried one in my GE Jazz for 6 years and never used it. It cost £15. I expect it would also fit the new model.
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: JazzandJag on September 18, 2015, 05:23:11 AM
My dealer says that the spare wheel kit for the Mk3 is on back order and will not be available until November. In the meantime they are going to transfer the spare and tools from my Mk2 and modify the polystyrene underfloor boot box to fit over the spare whilst still supporting the boot floor. So it would seem that the Mk2 spare will fit.

Regarding the jack storage, in the Mk3 it is now stored in the polystyrene underfloor box as there is no longer a recess within the bumper area.

Only 5 hours until I get mine!
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: guest5643 on September 18, 2015, 11:56:41 AM
I ordered a spare wheel "kit" at a cost of £230,includes Jack and wheelbrace,not heard from my dealer yet,if I get a puncture I won't use the gloop repair kit, Honda Assist will get a call.
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: Sidot on September 18, 2015, 03:29:37 PM
Hello. Enjoying following posts of fellow Jazz enthusiasts.
Hoping to take delivery of my new SE next week.
One the subject of spare wheels I was horified to see that my Mk2 did not include a spare wheel so I bought a " space saver " immediately.
It was important to me to know if the wheel would fit into the new model so when looking at it I asked if I could try my spare in the new car demo.
Lo and behold it fits fine, there is a little raised conical fitting to screw it into.Must remember to keep the screw when I do the change.
The polystyrene block won't fit with a wheel in there though.
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: Paulwhitt20 on September 18, 2015, 03:44:41 PM
Thanks,

Where did you get your MK2 space saver from and what size is it?

Thanks

Paul
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: Sidot on September 18, 2015, 04:22:43 PM
Just been to take a look at it. It's never been used. Bought it from a usual tyre retailer.  They had to order it in for me. Cost around £70 as I recall,  that was in 2010.
On the tyre itself it reads. ...." Dunlop Space Miser MKIII. Temporary use only. Inflate to 420 KPA. ( 60 PSI ) "
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: JazzandJag on September 18, 2015, 04:27:58 PM
Picked up my SE CVT this morning. As the boot floor has very little structural strength it is essential that it is properly supported from below as the supplied underfloor box cannot be used with a spare wheel in place. The proper space saver kit is apparently not yet available so Listers Honda adapted the solid foam tray/support unit from my Mk2 and they have done a pretty good job with it. It will easily last until the correct part becomes available.
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: Sidot on September 18, 2015, 04:35:01 PM
Oh........
That changes a lot of things.
I will have to take up the matter with my dealer.
Thank you for that information.
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: trebor1652 on September 22, 2015, 03:32:59 PM
As a matter of interest. I have just been into Halfords, looked at the tyre repair/ inflator and the only one they had was for 17 inch or larger tyres. Check before you use, read the instructions, us men tend not to do that.

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Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: Paulwhitt20 on September 22, 2015, 04:13:48 PM
Just picked up a new 15" full size spare wheel plus jack from eBay. £115

I hope it fits under the boot floor if I take the polystyrene tray out. If the boot carpet then needs support from underneath I will cut a piece of plywood to fit.

I will let you know how I get on later when the wife gets back in the car.



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Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: Paulwhitt20 on September 22, 2015, 06:59:58 PM
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae84/PaulWhitt20/83a8b3409b1e95c69b40e1d0fe01c780.jpg)

Not the best solution but a solution. Take the foam tray out and a full size 15" wheel fits in the space under the boot. Place the tools around it and place some plywood to reinforce the floor for the boot carpet.

Job done and peace of mind.

The propper Honda solution will be better but more expensive when it is available.

Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: ColinB on October 18, 2015, 10:25:06 AM
Hello all

Newbie here, I expect to collect my Manual SE sometime in the next couple of weeks so looking forward to that !

This'll be my first car ever without a spare wheel, so I'm thinking about whether I'm happy with that. The dealer price for a spare is north of £220 so if I do want one I'll probably look for a cheaper alternative, but I want to be sure about the spec of what I'm buying. I already have a jack & wheel brace (liberated from a previous car that went for scrap) so I just need the wheel. I assume I need to know or decide about the following, can anyone fill in the blanks for me:

1. The official spare is a space-saver, but (from the picture posted in this thread) it looks like a full-size wheel will fit in the well ?
2. Wheel size is 15 inch, 4 studs/bolts ?
3. Does anyone know the PCD of the stud/bolt holes ? Is this standard across all makes/models, do I need to worry about it ?
4. Do all makes/models have standard size bolt/stud holes, ie should I be worrying about the size of the holes ?
5. Dealer mentioned that they have to install a bracket to hold the spare securely in the well. Does anyone have this, is it essential ?
6 Does it matter if the spare is steel (I'm not fussed about appearance, just whether it's safe to have 3 alloys and one steel temporarily) ?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: culzean on October 18, 2015, 12:25:17 PM
if you search site for 'spare wheel'  or just 'wheel' or 'winter tyre'  there is loads already on forum about wheel stud fixings and offsets etc.  (been covered many, many times)

http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=6492.msg27803#msg27803 (http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=6492.msg27803#msg27803)

rather than pay a lot for a space saver spare I bought a full set of Nokian winter tyres on steel rims from mytyres.co.uk for £328 + delivery,  full size winter spare in summer and summer spare in winter.  And a full size spare will easily fit in wheel well with room to spare,  you will just need a short length of M8 allthread and a wingnut + a 75mm square plate about 3mm thick to secure the wheel down.

http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=6303.msg27025#msg27025 (http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=6303.msg27025#msg27025)

there is information in the above post to correct winter tyres and wheels on mytyres site - but
Honda GG6   
WIDTH  5-1/2 J 
PCD 4 x 100 (4 studs on 100mm circle) 
ED (offset of bolting face to centre of rim) 45mm    (this will change between 15 and 16" rims as rims are different widths)
SPIGOT diameter (hole in the centre of wheel that fits over boss on hub) 56.1mm
is what you need to get.

As long as you drive with reasonable care mixing 1 summer or winter tyre with others for a short time until a repair can be made will not give a problem, and don't worry about mixing a full size tyre on steel rim with alloys  as any full size spare  will be safer than driving on a 'wheelbarrow' tyre spacesaver. 
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: guest4871 on October 18, 2015, 01:48:20 PM
+1 to culzean above.

You could just buy only the one full size steel wheel (rim and tyre) for about £85 from mytyres.

For a Mk 2 Jazz, you can buy the Honda bolt and bracket from Honda for (I think) about £15. It is all hardly difficult to fit/ install.
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: ColinB on October 18, 2015, 06:22:52 PM
Folks,

Many thanks for all the info and links to other posts. However, perhaps my original Q wasn't quite clear that I was asking about the new 2015 model (I think that's the Mk 3 ?) and all the info I can find refers to the Mk.2. Even MyTyres doesn't seem to list it yet. Can anyone positively confirm that the spec for the Mk3 wheels, and the bracket for securing it in the well, are identical to the Mk2 ?

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Spare wheel
Post by: Sidot on October 18, 2015, 07:01:26 PM
Buy a Dunlop space saver spare wheel.
About £70 - £80 or so.
It fits the new mk3 Jazz.You will need a screw down pin and a washer.
Then when you have your new Jazz ask the supplier to modify the polystyrene block so that it fits over the tyre and supports the boot floor carpet.
That to me is better than going on back order for a jack and tyre etc at £173 approx.
I transferred my space saver from mk2 Jazz to my new one.