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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 => Topic started by: guest4291 on September 24, 2013, 08:23:54 AM
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Hi there,
My mum just got the i-DSI 2005 Jazz, with the auto gearbox. I am going to service it, just want to confirm a few things before buying everything i need.
Engine oil, is 5w/30 ok ? OR do people recommend using the Honda Green Hybrid oil? 3.6L right ?
Gearbox oil, Honda do ATF-DW1 and CVT oil, which should i use? 3.2L right?
Thanks
Ming
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You need CVT-F oil for the gearbox if it is a UK/Europe model. It is sold in 4 litre cans at Honda dealers.
If you search the forums, you will find plenty of advice on engine oil. 5w30 is fine and so is 10w40. I don't think anyone here specifically buys Honda engine oil. Castrol and other brands commonly available are just fine. 3.6L required.
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Castrol's recommendation is 0W-30 which I personally use.
Would use genuine Honda engine oil if it was available. Shame it's mentioned in the handbook but when you go to a Honda dealer and ask for it they look at you with blank faces!
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Thanks for the reply, everyone.
Just like to share, these shell fully Syth are really good value! Just ordered them there:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161110587828&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
Just going to order the CVT oil off ebay too.
Anyway, i will also be changing spark plugs, any precautions i need to watch out for?
Do people normally change their fuel filter too ?
Thanks
Ming
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Can someone confirm, this will fit my jazz please?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K-and-N-K-N-air-filter-Honda-Jazz-/261292169054?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AHonda%7CModel%3AJazz&hash=item3cd63a175e
Thanks
Ming
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There are two types of engine air filters for the Jazz. Early GD models use the rectangular shaped filter. Later GD models use a square shaped filter.
fyi, a good source for part numbers etc.
http://www.lingshondaparts.com/honda_car_parts_catalogue_C01.php (http://www.lingshondaparts.com/honda_car_parts_catalogue_C01.php)
There are 8 spark plugs to replace, the rear ones can be a bit fiddly. Search the forum for advice.
Some advice here regarding the fuel filter.
http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=3223.0 (http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=3223.0)
If you haven't already done so, you may also wish to add a pollen/cabin filter to your shopping list.
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As said, you need the square air filter, as in:
eBay item number:290873583342
oil filter:
honda oil filter part number: 15400 rba f01 (or equivalent)
eBay item number:151110104472
Lots of variants of each around at vastly differing prices.
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Could someone post a picture of the fuel filter in the bay please?
as i can't seem to find it, and from that link is this the right filter ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/honda-jazz-fuel-filter
thanks]
Ming
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The fuel strainer kit appears to be all of item no.1 in the exploded diagram shown in this previously mentioned link:
http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=3223.msg16350#msg16350 (http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=3223.msg16350#msg16350)
It is listed as £38 plus delivery at Lings Honda for Honda part no. 16010SAA000.
Rowes Honda offering same part for £25 plus delivery.
http://www.roweshondaparts.co.uk/product/FUEL_FILTER_(JAZZ_2002-2008)_16010SAA000 (http://www.roweshondaparts.co.uk/product/FUEL_FILTER_(JAZZ_2002-2008)_16010SAA000)
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The fuel filter in located in the fuel tank.
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Ok, I won't bother with that then :).
Just got some POR15 for underseal too :).
Thanks
Ming
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The recommended frequency of changing the engine oil seems very arbitrary to me. The manual distinguishes betwen two modes of driving, severe and normal for 6 month oil changes or 12 month ones.
But that must be very approximate in terms of the real necessity to have the oil changed. Is there not a simple test that can be made on the oil from the didpstick to tell you when you need to change?
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I believe some haulage and heavy machinery operators use 'oil condition analysis' to determine when an oil change is required.
In the USA for motorists and others there's http://www.blackstone-labs.com/. There may be similar in the UK.
Wouldn't it be great if the Jazz engine could accurately 'self-analyse' based on lubricity and presence of undesirable by-products of combustion?
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That is a fantastic price for the fuel filter!!!
Could someone please tell me where is the Pollen filter is, so i can change it please?
Also I just read the handbook, it does states to use ATF-Z1 oil, I know people have said that Honda now state to use CVT, I am just slightly worried.
As in the CVT oil bottle it said don't use it in any automatix gearbox ....
Some confirmation would be great!
Thanks
Ming
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Also if someone has a picture of the drain hole for the gearbox, that would be much appreciated!
Thanks
Ming
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Most of your questions should be answered via this website-
http://www.hondafitjazz.com/manual.htm
the diagrams work best with IE
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I wonder if it might not be possible to tell the condition of the engine oil by placing a drop from the dipstick on a piece of kitchen towel and examining the patter of the diffusion as it creeps though the absorbent paper.
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...the condition of the engine oil by placing a drop from the dipstick on a piece of ... absorbent paper.
I think some tests do exactly that at their most basic level. And then 'measure' it against a 'standard' - possibly by electronic eye. But that's pure conjecture. Beyond that, I don't know what more they do to 'analyse' it.
A 'cost-effective' analysis of the condition of the oil, as you proposed, before deciding to change it makes great sense. Rather than arbitrary oil-change intervals which may well be hit and miss.
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Oil is the life blood of your engine. It doesn't just lubricate the metal bits,it removes the harmful chemicals and other deposits produced as a result of combustion and holds them in suspension until you change the oil.
For the extra cost of analysing the old oil it isn't worth it,that's if you can find anyone who will do it.How are you going to take the sample?
For the cost of 3.5 litres of new oil and a filter,just change them and have peace of mind.
Vic.
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Oil is the life blood of your engine...
Vic.
Absolutely agree with that and more.
It's the largely arbitrary nature of oil change intervals which I question. Then it's the rip-off charges of too many garages (in the UK, anyway) which for them, changing oil and filter, is just a 10 minute job.
Having said that, I always stick to the manufacturer's service schedule and/or with my GE Jazz I follow the on-board service display recommendation for oil (with filter) change.
To do otherwise can be the most false of economies, that's for sure. Particularly if keeping the car till high miles. And in that case, changing oil sooner rather than later can be a wise policy.
Oil analysis ensures oil is changed when it NEEDS doing... not before and not after... which is the problem with arbitrary oil change intervals. (Which, I think, is jazzman's point.)