Post by: Sharon on March 12, 2026, 09:19:26 PM
I love the Jazz so will more than likely be staying with it. What's best secondhand option for a relatively low mileage Jazz? Reliability, magic seats and a decent music player is all I'm insisting on. So, hybrid? Petrol? Electric? What's the pointers, anyone?
Post by: trebor1652 on March 12, 2026, 09:25:43 PM
Excellent car the best jazz I have ever owned.
60 + miles to the gallon.
Good hunting
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Post by: cavosavosk on March 13, 2026, 11:58:41 AM
We have Mk3 as family car and it is reliable, like a lot.
But in reality it all comes down to your needs, whats your daily commute, what you gonna use the car for etc etc.
Post by: Lord Voltermore on March 15, 2026, 01:00:15 PM
But be aware that intitially the hybrid can feel a bit surreal to drive , possibly moving off in total silence.Especially if you normally drive a manual. And a bit of a learning curve for some of its clever tricks. You soon get used to it, and start to appreciate its many advantages , including 60+ mpg.
Post by: Sharon on March 15, 2026, 02:29:03 PM
Post by: Johnocyprus on March 15, 2026, 08:17:39 PM
Post by: Sharon on March 16, 2026, 07:28:22 PM
Post by: Marco1979 on March 16, 2026, 07:32:28 PM
Post by: cavosavosk on March 18, 2026, 11:20:01 AM
But realistically if you REALLY need a manual, then the last Jazz is Mk3, 1.3 or if you are lucky 1.5 (atleast around here 1.5 jazzes are unobtainable)
Post by: trebor1652 on March 18, 2026, 11:24:42 AM
just found out that the MK4 is all auto transmission? definitely not for me, I don't like autos.Don't right auto's off without at least having a decent test drive in one. I think
you will be converted.Good hunting
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Post by: Lord Voltermore on April 01, 2026, 11:48:30 AM
But since owning a Mk4 I have been totally converted . I will never again buy a manual. Its not just thats its an automatic. The Hybrid system , which incorporates electric drive ,brings a whole new driving experience of silence, and massive torque( pulling power) when required. You simply press the 'go' pedal and the car goes ,very quietly and in the ideal 'gear' for the ever changing circumstances.
I thought i would miss the pleasure of using my skill to always be in the ideal gear to maximise performance. It felt instinctive and not using much thought process. I now realise, with the very efficient transmission system, I no longer need to change gear mid roundabout or in preparation for bend etc. I can concentrate just that little bit more on my positioning ,speed ,other road users and hazards ,and get as much pleasure from optimising this as I ever did from stirring a gear stick or clutch control. Its an absolute pleasure when driving in the ever more common stop /start heavy traffic.
Ultimately the object is to drive as safely as possible. Not to demonstrate your skills in operating obsolete 20th century vehicle control mechanisms.
It really doesnt take long to adapt. Just keep your left foot firmly planted on the floor. You are missing out on a lot if you dont give it a try .
Post by: CRC on April 08, 2026, 11:25:30 AM
There's a lot of benefits to owning an old car.
Depreciation - none, in fact it might even be going up in value.
Maintenance - generally around £30 per year for oil and filter. Tyre replacement costs will be the same on any car.
Running costs - £195 per year for road tax, £220 per year for insurance, average 50 mpg, with 60 mpg on runs.
Possible future costs - clutch, gearbox bearings though no sign of needing those at the moment.
No sign of rust in the sills or wheel arches (have been Waxoyled) which seems more prevalent on 2006/2007 cars.
Goes through the MOT fine every year with occasional advisory.
Suspension parts easily available at reasonable after market suppliers.
No expensive main dealer servicing costs to keep up the service history and protect the value.
No expensive extended warranty to protect the car and especially the hybrid battery.
No worries when parking at the supermarket - if it gets a small dent, so be it.
I keep asking myself what benefits I would gain for my £15k .... and I just can't come up with a convincing argument.
More costs, less peace of mind, more worry...... It doesn't seem a good deal to me.
But that's just my opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own conclusions which will often be wildly different to mine.
Exhaust and cat replaced after theft
Post by: 2robbie2 on April 08, 2026, 02:24:23 PM
Post by: CRC on April 08, 2026, 03:14:53 PM
The camera then pans out and it shows that she's sat in a 54 plate Jazz!!
Am I the only one who finds myself screaming "Don't do it!!" at the screen ........ :D
Post by: 2robbie2 on April 08, 2026, 05:48:27 PM
Post by: Johnocyprus on April 08, 2026, 10:24:41 PM
It’s like night and day. Almost like the horse and cart. The modern safety systems are wonderful and the hybrid power delivery available in modern cars is a revelation.
If you can afford it embrace the modern technology just stick to Honda or Toyota.
Post by: Lord Voltermore on April 09, 2026, 09:29:16 AM
But I agree with Johnocyprus that some of the latest cars are a revelation. The mk4 Jazz hybrid system really is a major step forward in sophistication,silence and fuel economy compared to earlier ICE cars.
Despite some improvements over recent years the mk1, 2 and 3 Jazz are all fundamentally similar in their use of technology from the 20th century.(as are cars of that era from other manufacturers) For such cars you make decisions based on costs and perhaps some nostalgia for the old and familiar.
The mk4 undoubtedly raises the stakes financially. Some will not be able to afford one. But for those who can I urge them to also consider how much they might value the significant improvements it brings. Take one for test drive. Many will find it a revelation that will justify the extra costs involved . (But allow for the fact you might initially find the surreal and very quiet driving experience a bit daunting. ) The mk4s' advantages does mean it holds its value quite well.
Post by: CRC on April 09, 2026, 08:25:10 PM
Most EVs and hybrid main batteries are composed of hundreds or thousands of 18650 lithium batteries connected together in series to produce high DC voltage and parallel to give range, with all the charging and discharging controlled by clever BMS electronic controllers.
A "well to do" mate had a 2016, 85 grand Tesla from new and loved it, the acceleration was mind blowing and you really did have to "brace" ready for when he floored it. Truly amazing car.
When it reached 7 years old and 68k miles, it was worth about 10 grand, reason being that Tesla only warranted the main battery for 7 years meaning a 20 to 30 grand replacement cost on a 7 year old car if it went wrong ..... which it duly did not long after the warranty expired.
Regardless of how good the car is, batteries age and eventually fail, and with the early mk 4 Jazzes being 6 years old now, the clock is ticking.....
I am a bit "old fashioned" about how much things cost these days.
In 2006, my next door neighbour bought a 2.5 TDI Skoda Superb Elegance for £25k. I bought it from him when it was just coming up to 3 years old with 26k miles on the clock for £8k, which matched the best trade in offer he had received. 16 years later, I've still got it and it's a great car.
I'd imagine I would have to find perhaps £22k or thereabouts for a 3 year old Jazz,
and I think I'd struggle to find a10 year old Jazz for the £8k I spent on the Skoda.
Car price inflation has been crazy ....
Post by: jaytee on April 09, 2026, 09:06:05 PM