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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - => Topic started by: RuthieB on October 27, 2025, 11:01:54 AM
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Videos appearing showing the New Jazz possibly launching in 2026 but these appear to be AI generated with probably not too much credence?
Just google Honda Jazz 2026 and see what’s out there.
Screenshot attached
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Nothing on the Honda press site yet.
Just news about the Honda Prelude and UK spec .
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There are tons of these fake presentations of supposedly new car models on YouTube...
Jazz example:
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I have seen one or two that appear to be made by Hondas Chinese partners. With a restyled front end and headlights bolted on to what is basically the current mk4 body. A relatively cheap and easy way to have a 'new' model each year for the Chinese market.
I dont know but I get the impression Honda have delayed a mk 5 due to changes, or caution in policy regarding the future of hybrids vs full EV's ev's and conventional ICE cars ,and possible collaborations with Nissan etc. .
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My first thought is which Honda sales will still be open
Many reports here of dealers moving to other brands
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Personally I'm not too keen on an impending launch of a MK5 as it would possibly devalue my present MK4 facelift Jazz.
Late 2024 Honda have published a paper about the future evolution of the e:HEV drive train which entails quite some remodelling! https://global.honda/en/newsroom/news/2024/4241218aeng.html
I rather doubt Honda will introduce this new drive train in their lowest cost model (the Jazz) first.
We will probably see it first in some higher value models.
Just my 2¢
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Japan Mobility Show 2025
Compact EV prototype (World premiere)
Honda will exhibit the world premiere of a prototype of a compact EV model being developed in pursuit of the “fun of driving” unique only to Honda, realizing both outstanding usability and the “joy of driving.” This model is filled with the playful Honda spirit, intended to bring new excitement and a sense of exhilaration to customers’ daily lives. This prototype is currently undergoing road testing in countries with strong demand for compact EVs, including Japan, the U.K., and Asian countries, being further refined as a “fun to drive” vehicle that Honda strives to offer.
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Personally I'm not too keen on an impending launch of a MK5 as it would possibly devalue my present MK4 facelift Jazz.
Late 2024 Honda have published a paper about the future evolution of the e:HEV drive train which entails quite some remodelling! https://global.honda/en/newsroom/news/2024/4241218aeng.html
I rather doubt Honda will introduce this new drive train in their lowest cost model (the Jazz) first.
We will probably see it first in some higher value models.
Just my 2¢
I have seen this scenario develop with Renault, and it didn't really affect my resale values. At the end of the day, this new breed is still a long way off and will still be expensive (knowing Honda) in relation to other hybrid marques in the same category. I think it will make the Mk 4 more appealing as a second hand buy, as we know it is still a fantastic car and still offers a reliable, economical driving experience.
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Is this the new Jazz
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Late 2024 Honda have published a paper about the future evolution of the e:HEV drive train which entails quite some remodelling! https://global.honda/en/newsroom/news/2024/4241218aeng.html
I rather doubt Honda will introduce this new drive train in their lowest cost model (the Jazz) first.
We will probably see it first in some higher value models.
Just my 2¢
And here's another pertinent Honda announcement https://global.honda/en/tech/Honda_eHEV_next_generation/ which puts the Jazz's battery under the front seat and offers the option of a motor at the back for AWD. Wasn't the CR-V the first of the European e:HEV launches? In which case it must be in greatest need of updating and may be imminent. I would guess on the Jazz Mk 5 appearing for the 2028 MY.
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"A Rose by any other name..." But a Jazz badge by any other car class doesnt smell as sweet . A fundamentally different Mk5 may well be a great car. It may now have fastback sporty styling, or more like an SUV etc. But I chose the mk4 Jazz for its practicality ,and roominess within its class . If a mk5 no longer has these advantages it will again have to prove to me it suits my needs better than the many other similar alternatives. Some of which will be a larger class of car for less money. I might still chose a mk5 Jazz but my brand loyalty does have its limits.
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Is this the replacement for the Jazz or the Honda E? Revealed at the Japan Motor Show. A box on wheels ugh! >:(
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Is this the replacement for the Jazz or the Honda E? Revealed at the Japan Motor Show. A box on wheels ugh! >:(
Nothing new for the Japanese market, if it does come to the UK it will no doubt be very expensive
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Is this the replacement for the Jazz or the Honda E? Revealed at the Japan Motor Show. A box on wheels ugh! >:(
This is a totally new car, nothing to do with the Jazz or E. It is a brand new full electric 'small car', and designed for town and urban driving. The 'Super N', and in the UK in 2026.
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Is this the replacement for the Jazz or the Honda E? Revealed at the Japan Motor Show. A box on wheels ugh! >:(
No, this will definitely NOT be the successor to the Jazz or the Honda E.
This is a typical example of a "Kei car." Many Kei models are exclusively for the Japanese domestic market.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/history-of-the-japanese-kei-car-49720.html
https://www.autocar.co.uk/slideshow/history-kei-car#1
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Sounds like the Tiny Honda Super-N EV is heading to the UK in 2026
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/new-cars/2025-10/2026-honda-super-n/#
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The Super-N is an interesting box on wheels. It will appeal to some potential customers because it doesn't control everything using a big touchscreen. It's also interesting that Honest John says it's coming to UK but not mainland Europe. That might be related to trade and tariffs but another factor may be that too much rearrangement of what's under the little bonnet would be needed to accommodate a stering wheel on the left side. All it needs is competitive pricing to help increase the number of Honda EVs sold in UK and avoid buying so many credits from other EV companies.
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On the Honda site as well
https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/honda-super-n.html
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My first thought is which Honda sales will still be open
Many reports here of dealers moving to other brands
That's my worry with the brand in the longer term.
I'm a big fan of what Honda does and their hybrid system is unbelievably brilliant, however the cars aren't quite European enough and the likes of Hyundai/Kia have got much better at giving people what they think they want at a competitive price.
I think now that they don't have a manufacturing plant in the UK, they have really pulled back on this market. The increase in price of the Civic between generations was huge, partly because the cars have to be imported from Japan whereas it was previously easier to oversupply and do discounts / pre-reg if they needed to keep Swindon busy.
The building where I bought my Civic is now a Kia franchise and the Honda franchise has been relocated to a smaller and less optimal location, where it shares its car park with broken MG's from the sister dealership. That says a lot about how the dealership group views the brand.
I don't know the ratio of Sportages sold vs CR-V's but it's a lot. I've had both as courtesy cars (I had a CR-V for three months!) and they're not even comparable. There is nothing Sporty about the way a Sportage drives, whereas the CR-V is good to drive, comfortable, refined and pulls like a train. But not enough people buy them.
I will probably buy another Honda as no-one else is really doing what I want, but for most people there are other brands that are a much easier sell.
Most people will look at a VW T-Cross or T-ROC and think how excellent it is, and superficially they actually are quite a strong product.... Just don't look under the bonnet or think too hard about the engineering quality.
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As I've posted before, one of my nephews lives and works in central London so has no room or need for a car
What he does though is hires a car every few months to drive to the Cotswolds and back
He now refuses to accept Kia or Hyundai as he reckons they just don't feel right when compared to the established brands
As he's a regular customer he is now only offered VW or Audi which he reckons just feel more solid and drive better
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As he's a regular customer he is now only offered VW or Audi which he reckons just feel more solid and drive better
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As long as he only rents them, he will not have to suffer their -imho vast- reliablilty issues ;)
btw: Has he ever had the opportunity to drive a Honda e:HEV?
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No, the company he uses doesn't do Honda
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No, the company he uses doesn't do Honda
so, he's "insufficiently" informed :D
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Sounds like the Tiny Honda Super-N EV is heading to the UK in 2026
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/new-cars/2025-10/2026-honda-super-n/#
Please do not compare an "abomination" like the Super-N EV with a Jazz!
Thank you!
The next generation of the Jazz probably will forgo the "magic seats" but probably will award us with even better fuel efficency and maybe even 4-wheel-drive:
https://global.honda/en/tech/Honda_eHEV_next_generation/
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Honda have developed a superb hybrid system that surpasses the competition but fail to advertise e:hev in the UK = reducing outlets due to reduced demand
Before I got rid of mine I had a few tradesmen in for my full house renovation who hadn't seen a MK4 Jazz up close or were aware of it. They were all impressed when I explained how it worked, the features/toys and the MPG.
They mostly thought it was a EV but were more impressed with the benefit of self charging
Honda reducing sales self inflicted as they have a good product (apart from the front seats splitting)
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As he's a regular customer he is now only offered VW or Audi which he reckons just feel more solid and drive better
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As long as he only rents them, he will not have to suffer their -imho vast- reliablilty issues ;)
btw: Has he ever had the opportunity to drive a Honda e:HEV?
"Vast reliability issues " seems a bit OTT, I currently own a Seat Arona 1.0ltr DSG (my third one) the only issue I had with the second one I owned was the infotainment system would occasionally reboot, I've owned VW Polo's, T Cross Skoda Yeti, never had one that let me down, I'm aware of the early DSG issues which have since been addressed, in my area before Toyota Prius became the fashion for taxi drivers the most common one was the Skoda Octavia / VW Passat diesel, my friend's Octavia diesel had done 180,000 miles when sold, with virtually no serious issues, totally reliable, now owns another Octavia. All cars have their issues (even the Honda Jazz ) you only need to look at the various owners forums and there is a mix of impressions regarding reliability, for some owners the car is a nightmare, for others it the best car they've ever owned, surprisingly, the only car I've owned that failed to start on a few occasions was a Toyota Corrola, kept it 6 months and got my first MK1 Jazz
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Will you replace your Jazz with the Super N next year, known as the N-Box in Japan. Does the N stand for Nifty. A new Jazz maybe an EV too
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Several websites posting an upgraded Jazz/Fit, is this it or another AI hoax?
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It is China only. Not for Europe. It is an Mk4 facelift.
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My (educated) (https://global.honda/en/newsroom/news/2025/4251106eng.html) guess is, that a new Jazz will not hit the (european) market before 2027.
And no: It won't be BEV but still HEV (I'd even bet a beer or two on this - to collect you'd have to come to Switzerland though) :D
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The very fact that the Chinese factories who produce Jazz for the Chinese domestic market have invested now to produce faclift versions of the Mk4 body shell with new front ends etc suggests to me that an all new Mk5 is still some way off.
But it may be more complex than that.They might know that Honda would manufacture an all new ,significantly different mk5, in Japan for the Japanese ,and some other, markets first , with China only getting it later.
Years ago it was quite common for manufactures to continue production of obsolete models in overseas factories for years if they considered it was more suitable than newer more complex models for the local roads and garage infrastructure .. . A decision largely made by cost accountants 'back home' IMO than any actual local knowledge. . This probably no longer applies to China, who probably have a better infrastructure for EV's ,technology etc than many other countries but still might not get Hondas latest model straight away.
Of course any success with one of these syling facellifts might influence the actual mk5.
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Isn't that true
The Hillman Hunter stopped production in 1979 but was still being made in Iran up to 2005 under a different name
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Isn't that true
The Hillman Hunter stopped production in 1979 but was still being made in Iran up to 2005 under a different name
Royal Enfield the same..
India had all the original tooling and assemblage systems, so just kept making them. A solid, dependable and easy to maintain engine. Fast forward, and look at them now! Selling well, great reviews and with modernised tweaks.
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I've often wondered what would be my ideal car based on my old ownership
Maybe my old Lexus IS200 with 21st century tech
or maybe my old Ford Granada Ghia Coupe (2 door)
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Perhaps Honda could go modern 'retro" like the Mini, Renault 5, Fiat 500,etc. But looking at Hondas Heritage site I doubt any of their early small cars would have much appeal.
https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/world-of-honda/past/legacy.html
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As I've posted before, one of my nephews lives and works in central London so has no room or need for a car
What he does though is hires a car every few months to drive to the Cotswolds and back
He now refuses to accept Kia or Hyundai as he reckons they just don't feel right when compared to the established brands
As he's a regular customer he is now only offered VW or Audi which he reckons just feel more solid and drive better
I feel quite sorry for your nephew ;D I have a 2021 e`Niro 4+ (top of the range) It is built like a tank, Very comfortable, excellent road holding, 7 year warranty. blah-blah-blah.
Modern (after around 2019) VAG reliability is going down the pan on all brands. I am moderator on Karoq forum and was also on the Kodiaq forum. The litany of complaints about build quality and faults is astounding. This is probably why they have decided to lag behind other car manufacturers who also only give 3 year warranties, such as Jaguar/LandRover who have the worst reliability record of all. I would not buy any car with a 3 year warranty, The manufacturers obviously have not faith in their products. Sadly Honda are also declining in the reliability stakes. (brake problems on multiple models for example)
If he is considering BEV Kia/Hyundai lead the field in affordable EVs. Even Tesla reliability is questionable. Kias just don't have problems, not even with the electronic 'gizmology that plagues so many makes these days.
If he insists on a VAG product. I wish him luck!
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Sadly Honda are also declining in the reliability stakes. (brake problems on multiple models for example).
That was the same manufacturing fault which affected many models of the same generation. The real problem was the failure of Honda (Japan & UK) to immediately admit the nature of the problem and ramp up production of replacement parts. Owners having to fight to avoid / reclaim a big bill sticks in the memory much more than a managed recall. Unfortunately, there now seems to be a similar head-in-sand approach to the sitting seat sides problem.
Regarding the timing of the next Jazz, my forecast is late 2027. Normally the CR-V and Civic come ahead of the Jazz in the refresh cycle and nothing has yet been announced regarding those models.
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Regarding the timing of the next Jazz, my forecast is late 2027. Normally the CR-V and Civic come ahead of the Jazz in the refresh cycle and nothing has yet been announced regarding those models.
Why are Honda so secretive about forthcoming models. If I was looking to replace my Jazz at this point I would be looking at other options instead of waiting for a possible MK5 Jazz, that means they have lost a sale! I predict the Mk5 will be available in both hybrid and EV
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Why are Honda so secretive about forthcoming models.
Because Honda is a serious manufacturer who doesn't actually lets their customers in advance hope (and even pay) for features they not even have the slightest idea of how or when to implement! (unlike Tesla with e.g. FSD)
... I predict the Mk5 will be available in both hybrid and EV
<off to read tea leaves> okay, and I'm predicting the Jazz MK5 (if it will happen to exist and not get swept away by the global "SUV-mania") will be purely e:HEV. Probably even e:HEV "TNG"
Your guess is as good as mine! - As for the timeline: I'm with John Ratsey here with it (the MK5) not being released before 2027.