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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - => Topic started by: JJazz on August 27, 2025, 06:26:29 PM
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Looking at it. What do you think of the colours Urban Grey Pearl at £675, Platinum White Pearl at £675, Premium Crystal Red Metallic at £1,000 and the Crystal Black Pearl at £0?. Red is pricey and is it better than the older red which I wasn’t keen on?
Been told there was a facelift about a year ago, the main differences are the new front grill, a more powerful battery giving 10hp more, improved ride and mpg.
Some offers on until Friday.
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I bought an Elegance in premium crystal red metallic, as it was the only one of the four colours that I liked. I’m pleased with it but can’t comment on its durability. I’ve not washed it in 8 months and it lives outside but it doesn’t look dirty after 5000 miles.
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When I talked to the dealer before FL, the red one should be the only one with 5 layers.
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Been told there was a facelift about a year ago, the main differences are the new front grill, a more powerful battery giving 10hp more, improved ride and mpg.
I think the facelift also provides HERE buil-in satnav, which I quite like, as it also gives a diagram of approaching junctions on the driver information screen.
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Brought new jazz advance sport sept 23 really really wanted urban grey, all over
the uk could only get white black and red so settled with the red as could not
wait any longer, paint treatment thrown in for free and must admit after heavy
rain car looks as though its been washed.
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Read very positive review but the urban grey car in review was described as looking like primer.
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Looking at it. What do you think of the colours Urban Grey Pearl at £675, Platinum White Pearl at £675, Premium Crystal Red Metallic at £1,000 and the Crystal Black Pearl at £0?. Red is pricey and is it better than the older red which I wasn’t keen on?
Been told there was a facelift about a year ago, the main differences are the new front grill, a more powerful battery giving 10hp more, improved ride and mpg.
Some offers on until Friday.
Can I ask why you chose the Advance Sport over the standard Advance model?
My understanding is that the Sport has a less comfortable ride compared to any other Jazz because the suspension has been tweaked for slightly better handling
I know the Sport also has paddle shifts
The facelift Jazz was during 2023, which is what I have, the front grill is different but not sure about the other things you say were also upgraded
If you are buying used definitely get the facelift version if you can
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"Classic" Jazz is already somewhat harder, and "Advance Sport" will surely be even harder...? But I haven't driven it, so I can't compare.
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"Classic" Jazz is already somewhat harder, and "Advance Sport" will surely be even harder...? But I haven't driven it, so I can't compare.
My thoughts exactly stani
For me the joy is owning a smallish car that has a lovely soft ride, is quiet and very refined
The stiffer ride of the Sport simply doesn’t appeal to me and I’m sure after a while you’ll never use the paddle shifters either
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ninanina: for me, when switching from Toyota, the Jazz seems harder...
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ninanina: for me, when switching from Toyota, the Jazz seems harder...
I downsized from a Mk4 Prius and the ride, quietness and refinement of the Jazz is very close to the Mk4
I was amazed how smooth the Jazz was and didn’t feel I was missing out on comfort compared to the Prius
The other Toyota’s I test drove, Yaris/Cross, didn’t come close to the Jazz for comfort
The Corolla was better but too small and dark in the cabin compared to the Jazz
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I was asking about the colours. I saw urban grey in the showroom and didn’t like it. The red with black looked great. Like the seats too.
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Paddles - see attachment
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When I looked at replacing my Crosstar I chose the Sport as you get a lot of extras over the Advance for not much money (about a grand):
Proper Alloy Wheels
Premium soft leather seats with yellow stitching
Rear Spoiler
Gloss black finish to under bumper panels
Paddle controlled regen braking (4 levels)
Sport mode
Sport suspension (a bit firmer)
Leather 3-spoke steering wheel with yellow stitching
Chrome tail-pipe finish
It just seemed a no-brainer, the suspension is slightly firmer but the super-comfortable seats mean it's still a comfortable ride, if you are thinking about it just take one for a test drive. I've certainly not regretted my choice and I'm an OAP with arthritis issues.
I chose black as it then matches the bumper panels although it does need a bit of extra care over the other colours.
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When I looked at replacing my Crosstar I chose the Sport as you get a lot of extras over the Advance for not much money (about a grand):
Proper Alloy Wheels
Premium soft leather seats with yellow stitching
Rear Spoiler
Gloss black finish to under bumper panels
Paddle controlled regen braking (4 levels)
Sport mode
Sport suspension (a bit firmer)
Leather 3-spoke steering wheel with yellow stitching
Chrome tail-pipe finish
It just seemed a no-brainer, the suspension is slightly firmer but the super-comfortable seats mean it's still a comfortable ride, if you are thinking about it just take one for a test drive. I've certainly not regretted my choice and I'm an OAP with arthritis issues.
I chose black as it then matches the bumper panels although it does need a bit of extra care over the other colours.
I have bought similar to red one in photo. Seems funny “old man” Jazz with a rear spoiler. Seats felt good. Great offers end today I think.
-£1500 VIP discount + 5 years free servicing
-£2000 deposit contribution from Honda
The Honda Jazz hybrid "Advance Sport" trim offers 122 horsepower (hp), which is the maximum power output for the 1.5-liter petrol-hybrid engine used across the entire Honda Jazz hybrid model range.
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The Honda Jazz hybrid "Advance Sport" trim offers 122 horsepower (hp), which is the maximum power output for the 1.5-liter petrol-hybrid engine used across the entire Honda Jazz hybrid model range.
This is where you unfortunately are mistaken:
The ICE on the MK4 facelift "only" provides 79 kW (107 PS)!
The maximum power output comes from the electric motor rated at 90 kW (122 PS)
Moreover, if you care to look closely at the specs you will see that the "Elegance" trim is both the "sportiest" as well as the most fuel-economic trim (owed to the fact that - as you have correctly stated - all trims share the same drive train but different weights (with "Elegance" being the lightest)
So, the "Sport" moniker in the Advance Sport trim seems to be merely owed to optics ...
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The Honda Jazz hybrid "Advance Sport" trim offers 122 horsepower (hp), which is the maximum power output for the 1.5-liter petrol-hybrid engine used across the entire Honda Jazz hybrid model range.
This is where you unfortunately are mistaken:
The ICE on the MK4 facelift "only" provides 79 kW (107 PS)!
The maximum power output comes from the electric motor rated at 90 kW (122 PS)
Moreover, if you care to look closely at the specs you will see that the "Elegance" trim is both the "sportiest" as well as the most fuel-economic trim (owed to the fact that - as you have correctly stated - all trims share the same drive train but different weights (with "Elegance" being the lightest)
So, the "Sport" moniker in the Advance Sport trim seems to be merely owed to optics ...
Thiis isn't quite right as the Advance Sport has "Sport Mode" available, which creates extra power by charging the battery to a higher level before the ICE turns off, this is at the expense of higher fuel consumption but I find it useful when the car is heavily laden, eg going on holiday, as you don't end up facing a steep uphill climb with low battery and the ICE struggling to maintain speed.
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I can believe that Urban Grey is a bit of a marmite colour, but we are in the 'love it' camp, and it's a big reason we chose the Sport. Friends have also said, unprompted, that they like the colour. We also appreciated the different, but still understated, interior trim of the Sport. We find the ride is very acceptable - it's firm but pretty resilient and not at all crashy - and the steering is nicely precise.
The downside of the Urban Grey, which may have led to the primer comment, is that it looks great when glisteningly clean, but can look a bit flat when the dust starts to settle on it. This very dry summer has meant that this happens after about three days, but, praise be, it looks great again when washed down by a rainstorm! Not being a fanatical polisher, I just use Autoglym Body wash and Rapid Aqua Wax to keep it clean and a bit shiny
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When I brought my new jazz advance sport I had to have a red one as it was
all they could get hold of,I asked for urban grey and the salesman said that's
known as battleship grey at all the honda dealers he then added its a bit dull, I
wanted a grey one but had the red one as my old car was at the end of its life.
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I test drove the elegance and then the advance sport which is the car i ended up buying -mainly due to the useful extras but more so for the better classy interior.The difference in ride comfort was minimal the elegance ran in 15inch wheels-the sport runs on 16 inch.The paddles allow regen braking in D mode which i find useful rather than dropping into B mode which i use in town or coming down a steep hill for example.A very nice comfy car to drive in all situations.
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You don't need B mode or paddles to get regenerative braking; all you need is the good old brake pedal! When you want to slow down you press on the brake pedal and the drive motor becomes a generator slowing the car and charging the battery. This goes on until either you need more braking force or the battery becomes fully charged at which point the friction disc brakes come into play. I find the Jazz handles this transition so well that I rarely notice when the transition takes place. With the car in D mode you are approaching a junction so you lift off the gas and the car coasts possibly with no regeneration at all. If you need to slow more you press the brake pedal and regeneration starts - easy and no paddles needed.
The ride in the Advance Sport will be much the same as any other Jazz because the suspension is almost certainly the same as the others. The Elegance may be a shade softer with the higher profile tyres, but the plain vanilla Advance will be much the same, having the same size wheels and tyres.
Trouble with test drives is that the tyres may well not be at the correct pressure which can mask any differences.
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This is naturally subjective and personal experience. I test drove both 15 and 16 in wheels and on our rubbish roads the larger side walls were definitely more comfortable for a smooth ride.
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You don't need B mode or paddles to get regenerative braking; all you need is the good old brake pedal! When you want to slow down you press on the brake pedal and the drive motor becomes a generator slowing the car and charging the battery. This goes on until either you need more braking force or the battery becomes fully charged at which point the friction disc brakes come into play. I find the Jazz handles this transition so well that I rarely notice when the transition takes place. With the car in D mode you are approaching a junction so you lift off the gas and the car coasts possibly with no regeneration at all. If you need to slow more you press the brake pedal and regeneration starts - easy and no paddles needed.
The ride in the Advance Sport will be much the same as any other Jazz because the suspension is almost certainly the same as the others. The Elegance may be a shade softer with the higher profile tyres, but the plain vanilla Advance will be much the same, having the same size wheels and tyres.
Trouble with test drives is that the tyres may well not be at the correct pressure which can mask any differences.
the Advance Sport suspension setup is different from the other models:
The Honda Jazz Advance Sport features a specially tuned, sportier suspension compared to standard models, with stiffer dampers and a revised spring rate (decreased by 8% at the front and 20% at the rear) to improve traction and handling during cornering. This firmer setup provides a more taut, stable, and responsive driving experience, enhancing its sporty feel while still offering decent comfort
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Don't know where you got that quote from but the one I saw in fleet news was describing the changes made for the facelift. I don't doubt that the suspension was changed for the facelift but it was not made clear that the changes were unique to the Sport model. Such marketing tricks are not uncommon.
Significantly.
1. The Honda brochures and Website make no mention of the suspension being any different. If you were trying to sell a "sport" model and its suspension was different from all the other models surely you would say so.
2. Reducing the spring rate at the front doesn't looks like a sports modification. In conjunction with a stiffer rear it looks more like a rebalancing to give a better ride handling compromise.
3. If the rear of the sport is 20% stiffer than the others then loading the rear would result in significantly greater laden ride height but they are identical within 1 mm or so (with the sport sinking a shade lower[/i is]). Sports suspension usually also reduces unladen ride height but the Sport rides at an identical height. All this in the brochure from the Website.
4. The parts list only lists one set of springs for the Jazz 2013-2015 with no mention of springs specifically for the Sport. Note that the springs are not the same as the pre-facelift ones.
5. Honda have form with non-sporty sports models. Recently the Sport version of the Civic hybrid is reported to have the same suspension as all the other variants.
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Sorry 2023 - 2023
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Not my day 2023 - 2025 !!!!!
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The suspension is mentioned in this article:
https://hondanews.eu/eu/lt/cars/media/pressreleases/433351/refreshed-jazz-ehev-line-up-gains-new-advance-sport-variant
It's also mentioned in numerous video reviews I've seen. However I've got the car and can tell the difference as I had a Crosstar previously
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My Crosstar is nice and comfy :D.
I did actually like and have a good look over the Advance Sport in the showroom recently, a black one. Thought the interior was nicely detailed, subtley different, and classy. Particularly liked the steering wheel.
Didnt drive Advance Sport, as was wanting to replace my 4 year old Crosstar with another one as similar as possible, and that decision had been taken.
As i'm only :-X 63, i maybe could have got away with looking a bit sportier!!! ;).