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Diagnostics, Tuning, Modifications and Maintenance - all Hondas => Car Care & Detailing => Topic started by: stani on June 11, 2025, 01:52:41 PM

Title: Detailing
Post by: stani on June 11, 2025, 01:52:41 PM
The first thing I did on my new Jazz was protect the bodywork: Carbon Collective Molecule 9H Ceramic Coating - 5-year ceramic protection.

At a professional company it costs about 700 GBP for a new car and about 800-900 GBP for an older car. It cost me about 170 GBP + my labor.

A ten-hour "shift", I made it in one day, but I was still broken for two days. But thank God, it's done.
I put on a fair two coats and still had some left over.

The product description says it prevents scratches, which is nonsense, especially with such soft paintwork as Honda's.
But otherwise, it is good protection against UV radiation, dirt, maintains shine and repels water.
The good thing about this product is that it is for practically all surfaces, so I have used it not only on the bodywork, but also on glass, plastics, wheels. In fact, I now even have "liquid wipers".

I did this in May, a month after buying the Jazz. Interestingly, even a relatively new car (manufactured in November 2024, imported to my country in January 2025) had already caught a lot of dirt on the paintwork, the deIRONizer worked well, I didn't expect so many places with flying rust, it wasn't just a few spots, but the entire body was covered.
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: Kremmen on June 11, 2025, 02:12:58 PM
Wow, expensive

I've always used a waterless wash to finish with carnauba wax and my paintwork has never faded. Plus any bird mess just washes away with no scrubbing

As you say, these treatments don't protect again stone damage

I remember the outrageous sales patter from dealers about DiamondBrite. That was a dealer cash cow as they charged hundreds for what you could buy for about £20
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: stani on June 11, 2025, 02:19:55 PM
I also used cheaper products for years, but the real protection was only a few months at most.
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: Kremmen on June 11, 2025, 03:05:49 PM
I use my waterless wash stuff at each wash so a few months is fine for me :)
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: ninanina on June 11, 2025, 03:34:03 PM
Apart from having my car washed by my lovely local hand wash place I do nothing else to my Jazz

I may start using something like Showroom Shine, which I’ve used a lot in the past, or any other recommended waterless wash/wax just to keep it in tip top condition
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: stani on June 11, 2025, 03:37:59 PM
ninanina: in that case I recommend Gyeon Q2M WetCoat (or CARPRO HydrO2).
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: ninanina on June 11, 2025, 03:54:42 PM
ninanina: in that case I recommend Gyeon Q2M WetCoat.

Perfect thanks Stani
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: Jazzik on June 11, 2025, 04:47:49 PM
Since English is not my native language, I sometimes miss a word. Like 'detailing'(https://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/f025.gif)

I found the meaning of that word and I have to confess that I have different hobbies...
That is probably because I consider our car as a utility object. A means of transport, just like my bicycle.
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: FMIB on June 11, 2025, 06:29:29 PM
Probably similar to Gyeon wet coat is Mequiars Ultimate Quik Detailer, which I have been using for years on all my cars and can highly recommend it.
Wash, dry and a quick spray and wipe/buff. It gives a good gloss and especially good on dark coloured cars as it easily removes hard water white spots which often appear when the car quickly dries, especially in the sun.

It can also be used over any ceramic coating or wax. Only adds a few minutes extra to cleaning the car.

A simple DIY ceramic that is very easy to apply without excessive preparation is Gyeon Q2 CanCoat EVO. Probably lasts a least a year giving many of the ceramic properties at a low cost.
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: stani on June 11, 2025, 07:08:23 PM
....as it easily removes hard water...

I recommend only demineralized water for rinsing (or as an activator).
I bought this (https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006480244596.html) (not just for the car) and when there is a action sale on a large package of distilled water, I buy it.

It costs about the same as going to a hand car wash and rinsing with demineralized water, but this way I don't have to go anywhere and I can do it at home.

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But Gyeon Q2M WetCoat or CARPRO HydrO2 just spray it on the car and immediately activate (rinse) it with high pressure water - that's it.  ;) No drying, wiping and polishing. I don't know of anything simpler and with such an effect. Check out the videos on Youtube.  ;)
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: FMIB on June 11, 2025, 07:44:12 PM
Yes, demineralised is always best, but that's never going to happen for me as I use a hose or pressure washer to rinse and it's just a car at the end of the day
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: Jazzik on June 11, 2025, 07:51:45 PM
@ FMIB: I totally agree with the last 11 words of your post!  :D
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: stani on June 11, 2025, 08:05:59 PM
Detailing is not an obligation.  :D
It's for those who are interested.  ;)
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: Sean Regan on June 11, 2025, 08:22:04 PM
Wow, expensive

I've always used a waterless wash to finish with carnauba wax and my paintwork has never faded. Plus any bird mess just washes away with no scrubbing

As you say, these treatments don't protect again stone damage

I remember the outrageous sales patter from dealers about DiamondBrite. That was a dealer cash cow as they charged hundreds for what you could buy for about £20

Yep!
I've used this for around 20 years, on my CRV and from March on my 23reg Crosstar, I  bought when I sold the CRV. I find it excellent.

https://www.greasedlightning.co.uk/collections/showroom-shine

Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: Jazzik on June 11, 2025, 08:43:30 PM
It's already becoming an interesting topic, including advertising...

I think I'm going to clean my bike a bit tomorrow. :P
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: Nicksey on June 11, 2025, 09:10:30 PM
I always believe that if you look after something, it looks after you.

The Jazz paintwork is not very good compared with other cars I have owned (it has nothing to do with how paint has changed to be more environmentally friendly either). It marks and blemishes at the slightest drop of insect or bird poo, and seems to scratch with the lightest of contact.

Therefore, a good wax with carnauba every couple of months does add some protection.
Title: Re: Detailing
Post by: stani on June 11, 2025, 09:32:20 PM
The Jazz paintwork is not very good compared with other cars I have owned (it has nothing to do with how paint has changed to be more environmentally friendly either). It marks and blemishes at the slightest drop of insect or bird poo, and seems to scratch with the lightest of contact.

Exactly.
Otherwise, in general, all Asian cars have worse paint, it's also because they have had to be "greener", water-based, for a long time.
I even read a couple of years ago that a guy at Hyundai used a pressure washer to disturb the paintwork.

Honda is aware of this and is coming up with a "new clear coat with increased durability (https://www-japan--cars-cz.translate.goog/2025/05/20/honda-zr-v-2026-vyresi-nejvetsi-problem-jpn-aut/?_x_tr_sl=cs&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=cs&_x_tr_pto=wapp)".

Otherwise, my neighbor has a 2nd generation Jazz in red. Incredible quality of the paint. It doesn't do anything to it and the paint still looks like new.


Before FL I asked about red and platinum white. The dealer told me that red has 4 layers, platinum white has 3 layers. I don't know how it is now with FL. 

Unfortunately, today everyone is saving money on everything.