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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - => Topic started by: UncleZen on August 03, 2024, 10:21:51 AM
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Has anyone fitted a dashcam to a 2024 version of the jazz above?
I can see in the manual where it says the fuses should be I can't see them, so I assume they're behind a panel that isn't obvious how to remove.
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Be warned.
There was a warning in the press recently that if you hard wire a dashcam you should inform your insurance company as it is deemed to be an alteration to original and may invalidate your insurance. (similarly if you change wheels from OE.)
Personally I cannot believe any insurance company would behave like that, for what is a safety item that could save them from having to pay out, but it has to be worth a 'phone call!
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I havnt hard wired mine. My EX has 2 usb power sockets for the rear passengers rated at 2 amps. Once I had figured out how to route the wire from the dashcam down to the dashboard area (necessary anyway to hard wire or use the front power sockets) it didnt take much more ingenuity to route it as far as the rear usb's. . I continued down to the front floor well, then along the sill hidden under trim as far as the front seat, then hidden under the carpet beneath the front seat, emerging next to the usb sockets. But there may be alternative routes .The petrol tank is located under the front seats so dont drill any holes ;D
My dashcame came with an extra long power lead,which reached with about 30 cm to spare. I think it was 3m but may have been 4M, so if buying a lead its best to test measure, rather than having to use an extension lead.
Edit 3/10/2024. I have just routed the cable as described for the dashcam on my new 2024 Jazz. Only then did I discover that later cars now have small type c usb sockets at the rear , not the large type A required by the dashcam cable. :( I had to use an adapter. But even if I had noticed in time I probably would still have gone ahead. It works fine. I already had an adapter but have ordered a spare for £1.69
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Be warned.
There was a warning in the press recently that if you hard wire a dashcam you should inform your insurance company as it is deemed to be an alteration to original and may invalidate your insurance. (similarly if you change wheels from OE.)
Personally I cannot believe any insurance company would behave like that, for what is a safety item that could save them from having to pay out, but it has to be worth a 'phone call!
Believe it! My current insurers (Flow, the internet arm of LV) will not accept a hard-wire camera at all, even if installed by a professional automotive electrician. My previous insurer (Admiral) would also not accept it.
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Using the USB sockets my be a better 'temporary' (I.e. non hardwired) solution.
I'll have to have a look, it's not my car,
I'm aware that some insurance companies don't like permanently wired dashcams, inexplicably. Mine is hard wired and my insurance company (RAC) don't list it among the examples of 'is your car modified' but, I haven't called them to specifically ask.
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I've just had a chat with direct line, who insure the car and they are OK with a hardwired dashcam
I've screenshotted the chat as evidence, just in case
Also had a chat with my insurer (RAC) and they are OK with hardwired dashcam as long as you tell them and they add it to notes, no extra charge
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Just to answer the original query :
https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=12345.msg105812#msg105812
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My dash cam has just been fitted by Honda dealer. I was told that you usually get an insurance reduction
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Yes, the LV website has a checkbox for dashcam
No mention of how it's wired ...... does it matter if you can provide driving proof
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Mine is wired to the 12v port. Very easy to route the wiring behind the liner, side pillar and down to the under glove box area. There is about 6" of wire that curls from under the passenger footwell and into the powerpoint. No reason whatsoever to hard wire it.
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NEVER trust an insurance company. Unless you have it in writing from them - dont make ANY alteration to the car.
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Mine is wired to the 12v port. Very easy to route the wiring behind the liner, side pillar and down to the under glove box area. There is about 6" of wire that curls from under the passenger footwell and into the powerpoint. No reason whatsoever to hard wire it.
Where and what is a 12v port (sorry for, what may seem like an obvious question, its not my car and when i travel to fit the cam, I want to make sure I'm fully up to date on everything)
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I use the 12 volt cigarette lighter socket.
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What is the difference to plugging into the fag/power socket or a dedicated fusebox socket
My install does not involve a piggyback connector
Do they want the cable draped across the dash and up the central windscreen as routed up the A pillar behind trim could be interpreted as a hardwire ?
Got me baffled
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What is the difference to plugging into the fag/power socket or a dedicated fusebox socket
My install does not involve a piggyback connector
Do they want the cable draped across the dash and up the central windscreen as routed up the A pillar behind trim could be interpreted as a hardwire ?
Got me baffled
Each insurance company will take their own view of the financial risks posed by a particular modification. If different companies are taking different views this suggests that it isn’t clear-cut and there are competing factors:
- They might consider that adding a dashcam shows a responsible driver, and will help them prove liability in the event of an accident.
- Or they might be concerned that the camera might prove that their client was the one at fault and therefore they’ll have to pay out more than if the camera hadn’t been there.
- They might consider that a hard-wired installation that can’t be easily removed represents a greater risk of theft.
- Or maybe they just feel that anything permanently wired in to a modern car carries a greater risk of affecting something else.
Who knows?
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Mine is wired to the 12v port. Very easy to route the wiring behind the liner, side pillar and down to the under glove box area. There is about 6" of wire that curls from under the passenger footwell and into the powerpoint. No reason whatsoever to hard wire it.
Where and what is a 12v port (sorry for, what may seem like an obvious question, its not my car and when i travel to fit the cam, I want to make sure I'm fully up to date on everything)
Just in front of the gear lever, next to the USB ports.
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insurers tend to err on the side of caution when assessing if something is an additional risk . cynics would argue it gives them a loophole to increase premiums and escape liability. .A hard wired dashcam, if done properly, is no more of a risk to insurers than a plug-in installation. A tangle of wires and attempting to power several devices from one socket may be riskier.
Another riduclous situation was that many insurers regarded fitting winter tyres as a notifiable modification and some charged a premium. Despite winter tyres being safer in winter.
The association of British Insurers realised this is ridiculous and most , but not all , insurers have now agreed a commitment to allow winter tyres without needing to notify them as a modification.
Here is a list of insurers who allow winter tyres
https://www.abi.org.uk/globalassets/files/publications/public/motor/2019/abi-guide-to-winter-driving---the-motor-insurance-commitment.pdf
A word of caution. The companies that allow it are sometimes individual underwriters. You may find that when renewing with your existing insurance 'broker' that they change your cover to a different underwriter. This happened to me. Fortunately the new underwriter was also on the list. My tyres are winter rated 4 seasons so I'm covered anyway but if your insurer is not on the winter tyre list it may be advisable to contact them to see if all seasons are notifiable as winter tyres.
Maybe ABI should consider similar schemes for things like hard wired satnavs.
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Fortunately my dashcam simply and easily just lifts off its mount single handed
I never leave it in the car unattended because as you say, could be an attraction
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Tesco insurance replied as follows
VERIFIED ANSWER
@spm Hey there, thanks for getting in touch!
I can confirm this isn't classed as a modification and won't have any impact in your policy.
I hope this clarifies things for you 😊
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specifically - hardwired installation
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Hi.
Just to let you know that a number of our insurance schemes offer premium discounts for the fitment of a HD dash cam.
Regards,
Dan.
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Thanks Dan, I'll be in touch - my policy expires in early Nov :)
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Hi
I can confirm over Adrian flux hd cam
Out insurance is due for renewal with Adrian flux and has only increased by 30 approx from 354 to 385 I think
Also let them know your a member of the forum which also adds a discount
Many thanks
John
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Mine is wired to the 12v port. Very easy to route the wiring behind the liner, side pillar and down to the under glove box area. There is about 6" of wire that curls from under the passenger footwell and into the powerpoint. No reason whatsoever to hard wire it.
This is what I did in the end. It was in my mums car and I thought this was safest if she changes insurance company as the cam is not hardwired.
Route the wire from the cigarette lighter adapter in the gap between centre console and carpet, left behind carpet in footwell, up the door pillar, behind the roof lining. Simple, took 15 mins. Put cable ties around the wire behind roof lining as it stops the wire falling out when you go over bumps.