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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - => Topic started by: Nicksey on June 13, 2024, 02:15:36 PM
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Ok, I admit to posting about the few problems I have had with my Jazz. I have moaned about the warranty claims I have made, the problems with the paintwork.. and even with relation to the brake simulator fault (even though I haven't had the fault).
So, what is great and good about the Jazz?
Well, I have covered 21000 miles now, in just under 2 years. Its a 72 plate EX Style, in midnight blue beam.
All those miles have been town, A & B roads, with the odd motorway chucked in. I drive at the speed limit, and like the odd burst of quick acceleration and also enjoy leaving the odd German car at the lights. Motorway cruising is generally done at cruise control around the 68 mark, with a few bursts upto 80 during overtakes.
I have the Honda roof-bars, and have variously had a kayak, or a pair of cycles up top. I have also had a pair of folding bikes stashed in the magic seat spaces too at times. I have carried lots of camping equipment at the same time in the boot compartment. The space for luggage etc is far better and manageable than the Capturs I owned prior to the Jazz. I love the versatility of the space. The cabin is equally spacious, and having the pale grey interior only highlights how spacious and airy it is. The view from the front seats is very good, and the wraparound glass offers a clear unobstructed area view of the road ahead. The seats are comfortable, and we have never complained of numb bum or backache after long journeys. The driving position is good, and myself or the wife never have any problems moving the seat forward or back to suit either of our differing leg lengths when changing driver. The control panel and dash display are easy to use and view, the sound system is well capable too (I use a USB stick rammed to the hilt, and always on random play). I have found the Garmin system works well, and compared to the Renault's Tom Tom, it has similar querks.. but has never failed to get me to any destination.
The drive is probably the best I have had. It is the first auto I have ever driven, and it still pleases me how easy and relaxed the experience is. The engine is smooth, pulls like a turbo and never jerks or jolts as you step on the pedal. I use B mode around town and twisty A/B roads, but always jump into D for long motorway stretches. I have found the suspension is good, the body roll minimal (I don't chuck it around bends, but I'm no slouch either). Pot holes occasionally catch it out.. but no worse than the other cars I owned before it.
The EV system is a thing of wonder. Like most here, I delved into all the videos/explanations as to how it worked and how everything did what it did.. but ultimately, I don't care as long as it keeps doing what is meant to do. The transition between petrol and EV is generally seamless, and although the motor in ICE mode can sound a bit groggy during start up, it soon settles down and is the quietist and smoothest motor I have driven. The economy is fantastic, and everything that was promised. I have seen a high of late 70s, and over the 21000 miles I have done, the car is showing at this moment an average of 68.5 mpg.
There you have it. I am very pleased with the Jazz, and at times I may get a little angsty about it, and wonder what the Renault Alpina would be like.. I will be keeping my Jazz for at least the 3. whatever years of the servicing/warranty it has left. The Jazz was purchased as my probable last car. After owning lots of Renaults, the Jazz was chosen because of the companies longevity and reliability. I hope the Jazz carries on that tradition.
Amen.
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Must admit, mine has been the best drivers car I've owned, and I've owned dozens of others in my 5 decades plus of driving
I suppose my closest cars have been a Lexus IS200 and a V6 Citroen Xantia. Both had superb suspension but compared to today were seriously lacking in toys
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I recently started driving the Jazz Advance after driving 52,000km in the Jazz Executive for 3 years. I have to conclude that the Jazz is the finest car I have owned so far. It is now my 26th car in 52 years. Of course, technology and safety features have grown enormously after I bought the Renault 4 as my first car in 1972. Especially the safety features, the heated steering wheel and the economy increase my sense of satisfaction. I hope I can enjoy this fine Jazz for a long time to come.
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I have just gone over the 40,000 mile mark in my 71 plate SR Jazz . Global mpg for 39996 miles is 62.9 mpg . The car had 4 miles on it when i drove it out of the showroom . Had driven other non hybrids and full kia HEVs my jazz nails it as the best all rounder . Yesterdays evening driving as attached pic. I dont go slow just normal . I use foot to floor squirt to zoom past slower traffic and even sometimes at traffic lights . The drive is smooth and seamless -if you dont have the graphic display you cant tell which mode its in for the majority of the time . An interesting observation from other cars is the jazz winscreen slopes lots more than most cars and as a result doesnt get as many flies stuck on -the airflow must be more aerodynamic. In a new lexus LBX the windscreen is much smaller and more upright angle and the flies hit it whereas in tbe jazz the air flows better and they are kept off screen . The ride is very good and it corners well enough for my driving style .i like to be smooth so dont race into bends . The finish of the interior is good and i havent any rattles creaks or groans appear. Having black paint is harder to clean compared to other metallic colours which have the clear laquer coat and SWMBO would now have heated seats now she has tried them in orher cars … apparently my driving with chilled air is improved if she can heat her seat as she finds it cold. The space under the magic seats is where our walking boots and dog lead and stuff live — other cars waste that space!
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I do love driving the hybrid Jazz. It's zippy and smooth. A good place to be in when there is stop-start traffic.
I wish the Jazz was easier to park, and quieter at motorway speeds. I would like a CD player too. Nowhere to fit one.
The previous best car (had lots including Honda, Ford, Austin Healey, BL, VW, Fiat, Citroen, Peugeot, and Renault) was either the Mk1 Toyota MR2 T-Bar, or more recently the V6 Vectra B CDX auto that I loved and drove for 10 years. Which at the time I preferred to the BMW 3 series and Merc C Class rivals both of which I test drove. For some strange reason I never warmed to Audi.
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If I can park my neurosis over the brake simulator issue (I haven't had it btw) I can say it's one the best cars I've ever owned. It's certainly the most economical. It's comfortable (the driving position on Jazzes generally seems to suit my skeleton) and this latest iteration is pretty perky as well off the line.
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I've always found the driving position to be far better in autos than manuals, no clutch to floor
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I've always found the driving position to be far better in autos than manuals, no clutch to floor
Yes, which I think adds to the long drive comfort experience. No twisting movements around the hip/knee area, just a slight foot movement.
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When I had the Crosstar it was the best car I've owned, until I got the Jazz Sport which is now my favourite. It's quite a bit different to drive as the suspension's a bit firmer and it has lower profile tyres but it's really nippy and agile. Probably not to everyone's taste as at low speeds you do feel the bumps in the road a bit more but I love it. The seats are really comfortable on long journeys and I like the smaller steering wheel.
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The jazz is the best car I have owned. The auto gearbox system is a delight, especially in stop start traffic. . Smooth and seamless . Reviews report that some hybrid alternatives have some delay and jerkiness as their autobox changes through its gears and transition between EV and ICE. At least compared to the CVT systems used by Honda and Toyota.
The Jazz is an ideal size for me. Very roomy for its class with excellent visibility.(unlike the Yaris which I found too small ). But now quite expensive for its size category . Some similar priced alternatives are now a step up in size category. But i dont want a bigger car than I need just because of its price. Unless there were no suitable alternative, or a compelling eco friendly advantage.
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It's quite a bit different to drive as the suspension's a bit firmer and it has lower profile tyres but it's really nippy and agile. Probably not to everyone's taste as at low speeds you do feel the bumps in the road a bit more but I love it.
Don’t worry about the bumps or potholes in the road.
Keir has promised to sort that!
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Certainly can't describe the Jazz as the best car I have ever driven or best car I have ever owned, by a long way.
But for what it is, what it does and what I bought it for, it's good, topped off by its extraordinary low fuel consumption and the practicality of the magic seats.
When I need to drive anywhere my current choice is simply black or white
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Yep ditto, I would say it's in the top 3 of cars ive owned. And it certainly is THE most versatile car ive owned. For its size its packaging is amazing!
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I love my EX. Probably the best car all round I’ve had.
I have not done any runs but been waiting 20 weeks in this English legal system nightmare to move 525 miles back to Fife to end my exile in East Sussex.
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I love my Jazz EX. I have just had it 3 years. It had done nearly 23000 miles. I have been to Italy twice with no problems. Driving 600 miles each day. We regularly got to Scotland although I now stop half way. It is 436 miles and geting old to do it in one go now.
I have had no problems with the car at all. The last service the other day they said the tracking was out. Potholes. I have just extended the guarantee for another 3 years just in case. I am very pleased geting 68 mpg. Much beter that my Volvo XC60. Every forum people have problems and complaints about their cars. I have never been on a forum that doesent have complaints.
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Yep ditto, I would say it's in the top 3 of cars ive owned. And it certainly is THE most versatile car ive owned. For its size its packaging is amazing!
Yes, over the years I’ve had many cars, mostly from the Rover stable, from Metros to V8 Rovers/Landrovers and think overall, this Mk4 is the best yet and most versatile.
Just taken delivery today of my 3rd Mk4, after a minor parking set to, with a steel girder, garage door post. Honda wanted an arm and a leg to repair it, talking about new panels here and there. Decided it was a better proposition to P/X it in the damaged state. Now 87 so it’s probably my last. ;D ;D
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Yep ditto, I would say it's in the top 3 of cars ive owned. And it certainly is THE most versatile car ive owned. For its size its packaging is amazing!
Yes, over the years I’ve had many cars, mostly from the Rover stable, from Metros to V8 Rovers/Landrovers and think overall, this Mk4 is the best yet and most versatile.
Just taken delivery today of my 3rd Mk4, after a minor parking set to, with a steel girder, garage door post. Honda wanted an arm and a leg to repair it, talking about new panels here and there. Decided it was a better proposition to P/X it in the damaged state. Now 87 so it’s probably my last. ;D ;D
Yes, quotes for repairs can be eye watering and perhaps explains why insurance companies often write cars off that look eminently repairable.
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I have driven many different cars over the years and now have a Jazz hybrid. I do miss my old Jazz, the driving experience that I don't have with the automatic hybrid. But it's mainly the safety features I don't like; the lane assist jerking steering wheel for example. Just give us a warning buzz fergodssake! The electronic accelerator can be difficult to keep to a desired speed unlike a spring one. Trying to turn off or on features is really fiddly and the manual is a farce.
All in all I have a Jazz and the hybrid is the way of my driving future. But I miss my old manual Jazz and the hybrid miles I'm putting under me have not lessened this.
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When you say Lane Assist, do you mean RDMS ?
Lane Assist is off by default but RDMS is on by default
If it is RDMS then that is easily turned off but has to be done each journey
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Its difficult to avoid a new car these days that doesnt have some sophisticated driver aids. Some are now a legal requirement. I read recently that only 8% of new car models still feature a manual handbrake.
It will become increasingly difficult to cling to the good old days of 20th century technology. I try to learn new stuff while I still can. . Sometimes it means knowing how not to use something ;D
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I actually don’t mind all the safety features in the Jazz
On my test drive yesterday in my new ‘23 I didn’t find anything not to like or off putting about them
Only my commented on proximity sensor going off in traffic that I didn’t expect as my Prius doesn’t do that
As far as driving the Jazz, well I found it a revelation compared to the Prius. It’s much more fun to drive than my Prius and it probably accelerates quicker too. I found it a total hoot to drive and was soon chucking it around corners and roundabouts as if I’d owned it for years. I was very pleasantly surprised and impressed handling wise
Ok so maybe the Yaris is even more fun to drive but there’s not a lot in it and the Jazz is way more comfortable and accommodating than the Yaris which is why, after owning lots of Toyota’s, I chose the Jazz this time
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The electronic accelerator can be difficult to keep to a desired speed unlike a spring one.
Are you saying it’s a fly-by-wire accelerator? If so I didn’t know that but can’t say I had a problem with it on my test drives
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The electronic accelerator can be difficult to keep to a desired speed unlike a spring one.
Are you saying it’s a fly-by-wire accelerator?
Yes
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I've had no issues keeping to a set speed with any of my recent Hondas
I will also add to previous posts that the MK4 Jazz is the best car I've driven in over 50 years of dozens of car ownership
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The electronic accelerator can be difficult to keep to a desired speed unlike a spring one.
Are you saying it’s a fly-by-wire accelerator? If so I didn’t know that but can’t say I had a problem with it on my test drives
Never had a problem with ours either. I find the seating position far better than previous cars (Renault Capturs, Clio, Scenics), and makes for a comfortable foot position. I also use the cruise control virtually all the time on motorways, and find that really easy and convenient too.
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I think I would say that the Jazz is the best all-round package I’ve ever owned. I’ve had faster cars. I’ve had more comfortable cars. I’ve had bigger (and smaller) cars. But I don’t think I have had a car that covers all the bases as well as my Jazz Advance.
My only niggles are minor irritants, such as the times that the lane keep assist system gets it wrong.
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Only my commented on proximity sensor going off in traffic that I didn’t expect as my Prius doesn’t do that
You can temporarily silence the proximity alert by pressing the selection wheel on the steering wheel.
Very useful, if you have to sneek up closer to the car in front of you than you normally would due to traffic.
If sitting prolonged at a traffic light / congestion: Putting the car in park will immediately cancel the proximity alert as well.
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Only my commented on proximity sensor going off in traffic that I didn’t expect as my Prius doesn’t do that
You can temporarily silence the proximity alert by pressing the selection wheel on the steering wheel.
Very useful, if you have to sneek up closer to the car in front of you than you normally would due to traffic.
If sitting prolonged at a traffic light / congestion: Putting the car in park will immediately cancel the proximity alert as well.
Thanks coldstart. I was looking through the manual and didn’t find which button on the steering wheel to click to silence the proximity alert
It seems like you need to go through some menus to be able to do that
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If you want to disable them permanently (which I recommend doing e.g. during heavy snowfall) you are right: You have to disable them in the driver information interface under "Safety Support".
The press on the scroll wheel only temporarily silences the alert.
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If you want to disable them permanently (which I recommend doing e.g. during heavy snowfall) you are right: You have to disable them in the driver information interface under "Safety Support".
The press on the scroll wheel only temporarily silences the alert.
So a simple click on the scroll wheel on the left of the steering wheel will cancel the beeping, if so that’s really helpful. Thanks for that
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I recommend to setting the rather misleading (and quite obscure) setting of "Warning message" in the "customized features" to ON as it displays a helpful text along the symbol on the driver information display.
You may discover quite a few nifty shortcuts this way!
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If you want to disable them permanently (which I recommend doing e.g. during heavy snowfall) you are right: You have to disable them in the driver information interface under "Safety Support".
The press on the scroll wheel only temporarily silences the alert.
So a simple click on the scroll wheel on the left of the steering wheel will cancel the beeping, if so that’s really helpful. Thanks for that
That's only on Facelift models 24YM onwards. Pre-facelift models have a button on the lower dash panel to turn the sensors on/off.
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That's only on Facelift models 24YM onwards. Pre-facelift models have a button on the lower dash panel to turn the sensors on/off.
Thank you for this clarification!