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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - => Topic started by: yooser on June 15, 2023, 11:53:05 AM
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Hello,
My 2023 Honda Jazz Ex style has just started ---- within the last few weeks before the very hot weather---- a rattle creaking type of noise from the central dash below the climate control area , it's at it's worst when driving over a rough road surface and doesn't seem to be governed by the speed being travelled.
I've had my 'noise location detector' -- fully qualified Dip Mech automotive panel presser (my wife ! ) checking over the outer panels etc and the noise goes when the plastic panels below the climate control area are pushed in, if that makes sense ?
The car has been free from any unwanted noises up until now.
Any ideas or does anyone know if this is a common fault ?
I've tried a less technical method - banging the plastic panels - with my hands , this method of course didn't work !
My sat nav has started to play up over the last couple of weeks and I'll have to start up another topic later on .
Regards from Neale.
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I experienced similar on my Fabia and I found a spray of silicone lubricant, around the seams, helped quite a bit.
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I think others have reported an occasional rattle from somewhere inside the infotainment screen area that defies easy explanation ,precise location or cure. But if you have identified a joint that reacts differently when pressed then Jockos suggestion of silicon spray may work well . You could also try stuffing a small amount of removable padding in the joint to limit movement.
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I don't think I have ever owned a car that didn't have a rattle/squeak/tap from the plastic trim. My Jazz (my first Honda) is no different. The passenger side cup holder has a rattle at certain speeds or terrain, and just a quick squeeze of the recess generally stops it. I also get a buzz that seems to come from up near the driver sun shield... but maybe from the rear seatbelt area too. At one time we used to hear a creak from the driver side when on B roads going up and down hills and around bends. Not every journey, and fortunately it seems to have stopped. I have just hit the 10k mark, and these rattles/buzzes are very minimal, and nothing worse has happened. I just think its the nature of plastic on plastic, flexing and reacting to noise/vibration/pitch.
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Occasional dashboard rattle on our 2020 Jazz Mk4 SR which the dealer looked at but couldn't cure. I found it was the narrow horizontal panel between the main dash top and the side window. Some waggling and pushing seems to have cured it. Time will tell. I had a bad rattle in a nearly new Civic a few years ago, which usually stopped if I thumped the dash, until one day I hit it and the engine stopped! Got the garage to collect it, and it was a loose or nearly loose connection to a relay I think.
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I resolved 2 rattles on the EX.
One was the cover of the front sensing housing on the windscreen which I pulled away and just put 4 very slim pieces of felt in for the plastic edges to rest against. Can’t be seen with the naked eye and cured it
The other rattle was from the passenger dashboard cup holder garnish, just pulled that off, put in a bit of felt insert and it clipped together more firmly in place with rattle removed.
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Reminds me of this old tale about Spike Milligan :
The late Peter Sellers was always worried about one thing or another.
He also took cars "on approval" saying that he would eventually buy one if it came up to scratch.
One night he drove a Rolls Royce round to the flat of his pal Spike Milligan.
He told him that there was a knocking sound coming from the boot of the expensive car.
Peter told Spike that he was definitely going to buy the car if only he knew what the noise was. He asked Spike to get in the boot and he would drive around Chelsea. When Spike found the source of the noise he was to mark it with
a bit of chalk. For some reason Spike only had his pyjamas on.They drove around and were stopped by a police car for acting suspiciously.
The policeman heard muffled sounds coming from the boot. Peter opened it and there was Spike lying down with a piece of chalk staring at them.
All the policeman said was "Oh its you!!" and then walked away.
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Back in the 1920's/1930's Rolls Royce humorously advertised that a few customers had complained about the dashboard clock ticking. The point being that the car was so quiet in all other respects that you could actually hear the clock . Honda has followed this to some extent by pointing out in the handbook that the Mk4 hybrid is often so quiet you can sometimes hear certain essential functions such as cooling fans quietly running in the background that would also be present in conventional cars but inaudible over engine noise.
I'm not saying this is the same as an annoying squeak or rattle.Or that they should be tolerated. But most cars have these, but maybe the mk 4 makes them more noticeable.
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Similar to the German manufacturer who had the advert with the couple driving down the road continuously looking around the cabin for a squeak... only to find at the end of the ad, it was the wife's dangly earrings.
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I had an annoying rattle on one of my 8G Civics. From the drivers seat it sounded like it was coming from the nearside front dash corner.
It was only with a passenger who said it sounded like it was my side.
After investigation it was something hard inside the hard sided centre console. Lined the console with thick felt and rattle gone.
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Generally cars are built to tighter tolerance today . My last two Nissan NOTEs never had any rattles or squeaks nor does my JAZZ . Jazz can be super quiet and you can hear such things as the wiper motor ..sitting in silence at traffic lights is all the more better without any starter motor rattle - you just squirt away in EV ! Drove my wife’s manual yesterday and it is annoying to have the stop start kick in and have to change gear too…
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Last few weeks had a creaking noise from the front passenger side of a 2020 Crosstar. It was becoming rather annoying. Thanks to GeoffW's mention (back in June 2023) of the thin side panel on the top of the facia by the side window it was traced to here. I folded a small piece of black car carpet and pushed it in a small gap at the edge of it plus one in the top front of the facia by the windscreen and it has cured it. For good measure I have added two bits on the driver's side as well. I am sure felt would do as well. Back to a quiet car!
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On my 2021 car I sometimes had the slight rattle /vibration around/inside the infotainment screen, as reported by some others.
It could randomly start and later stop again for no obvious reason that could be explained by changes in road surface. It could start and then later stop on a smooth road ,yet would not always occur on a bumpy road, as you might expect. (But sometimes did)
So far I have not had this, or any other, rattle on my 2024 car. But maybe its because my hearing is now 3 years older :-\ ;D
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Last few weeks had a creaking noise from the front passenger side of a 2020 Crosstar. It was becoming rather annoying. Thanks to GeoffW's mention (back in June 2023) of the thin side panel on the top of the facia by the side window it was traced to here. I folded a small piece of black car carpet and pushed it in a small gap at the edge of it plus one in the top front of the facia by the windscreen and it has cured it. For good measure I have added two bits on the driver's side as well. I am sure felt would do as well. Back to a quiet car!
I can add to my original post, that the dealer cured the dash rattle permanently with double-sided tape between the joints. They have tape specifically for dealing with rattles.
We do get the occasional, temporary rattle from various parts of the dash or console but nothing very troublesome, and there haven't been any persistent rattles since the one in 2023.
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When I purchased my 2023 Jazz it had an annoying rattle coming from the rear somewhere
It took me a couple of weeks to track it down to the towing eye which is in a little pouch under the right hand boot cover; it’s where the tyre inflator is stored. I didn’t even undo the pouch so I’m guessing it’s the towing eye inside!
The pouch is held in place by a retainer strap but somehow it had slipped down and was rattling on the bottom
All I needed to do was tighten up the strap and make sure the bottom of the pouch wasn’t touching anything
It’s perfectly quiet now. I’m pleased how rattle free my Jazz is and I’m very sensitive to rattles in a car!
My Jazz is quite serene; not a rattle or buzz from anywhere which is impressive and exactly what I was hoping for from a ‘Made in Japan’ vehicle
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My 2004 mk1 jazz had an annoying rattle from around the instrument binnacle, and my mk1 Nissan note had various from behind the radio - all fixed with bits of sponge and cable ties, my current 2023 SR jazz s free from any rattles :D :D
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Hello, I've just noticed that it was my query about rattles and squeaks etc that I nearly replied to again!!
My query was started about 1 1/2 years ago , I don't know how it has been restarted again.
Years ago , in another car , I had an annoying rattling noise that seemed to come from the rear passenger seat area , I found the rattle was caused by marbles left in the door handles by my grand children.
A friend of mine who owned a Lada used to say that when the rattling noises go it means the parts have fallen off .
Of the later cars I've owned the Renault Captur was by far the worst for rattles and squeaks and it was most unreliable I've ever owned and I've owned some really appalling bangers in my time !
The Jazz has made me a lazy driver with auto this and that which I enjoy.
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I’ve also noticed that noises in the Jazz stand out much more compared to other ICE cars I’ve driven. One thing that particularly annoys me is the fan noise in winter - when the AC compensates for low temperatures, it ramps up the fan to level 4 or 5+. That’s when it becomes annoying, especially in the relative quiet of the car, and I usually end up turning it down manually.
Another thing I’ve picked up on is a creaking noise from the steering wheel when maneuvering at low speeds in EV mode. I suspect it’s the clock spring. normally, I wouldn’t even hear it, but since the Jazz is so quiet, it’s quite noticeable.
I’ve also had minor rattles around the rearview mirror, but I’ve stopped paying attention to them over time.