Post by: Wonder on May 27, 2023, 03:06:53 PM
as the title suggests, sometimes the left mirror does not fold when I lock the car, has this happened to you too?
Yesterday I took the car for maintenance and reported the problem to the mechanic,
he replied that it is a known problem and they change the mirror under warranty (the car is still covered by warranty anyway),
the piece has been ordered, when it arrives I will take the machine back to the workshop to have the piece replaced.
Greetings
(Sorry for the mistakes I used Google Translate)
Post by: trebor1652 on May 27, 2023, 03:58:10 PM
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Post by: IanG on May 27, 2023, 04:27:07 PM
Post by: Lord Voltermore on May 28, 2023, 06:45:33 AM
Does the mirror motor attempt to move mirror, just doesn’t actually fold? I had this issue some time ago and think forum member who had same issue suggested using the manual mirror fold switch whilst engine was running. I tried this and the mirror folded, after which it folded correctly with switch in auto fold position when engine was off and car was locked. Issue hasn’t returned and now covered 45k miles. Might be worth a try? Unsure why this resolved the issue, perhaps the battery supply whilst running on engine power is able to deliver the current needed to operate the motor correctly but it’s worked correctly since when engine is off.A useful tip, especially once the cars are out of warranty. But I'd rather Honda replace the mirror free of charge under warranty than have to use a workround. This is assuming the replacement mirror is improved in some way, either a better design, or properly lubricated. I havnt had a problem so far.
Post by: Jayt43 on May 28, 2023, 05:20:22 PM
Post by: Lord Voltermore on May 28, 2023, 05:47:39 PM
That said the airbag on my Yaris, that had a recall due to premature aging , was replaced with an identical item. Just newer stock.
Post by: aphybrid on May 28, 2023, 09:18:08 PM
Post by: Kremmen on May 29, 2023, 06:04:30 AM
My mirrors are still working perfectly OK but I'd noticed a very slight plastic to plastic grinding noise, very quiet. A few squirts of silicone lubricant spray and now silent again.
Post by: Lord Voltermore on May 29, 2023, 06:26:28 AM
Post by: Kremmen on May 29, 2023, 07:10:08 AM
My silicon spray has a long thin straw like attachment so easy to direct.
Post by: SebastianTR on May 29, 2023, 07:31:01 AM
Just use some WD-40 spray. It's working without any problem like 1-2 months
Post by: Kremmen on May 29, 2023, 07:36:31 AM
Back in the day you could spray it into the distributor cap to dry out any moisture stopping the points working properly.
Post by: davejazz on May 29, 2023, 08:09:36 AM
Be wary of normal WD40 as it's designed to dry and can make it worse over time.Yes, Kremmen is right.
Back in the day you could spray it into the distributor cap to dry out any moisture stopping the points working properly.
It dries similarly to a coat of varnish!
Post by: njf16154 on May 30, 2023, 10:18:56 AM
Post by: Lord Voltermore on May 30, 2023, 10:35:30 AM
Perhaps the former Governer of the Bank of England , Mark Carney , can chair an investigation into the scandal. 'Silly-con Carney.' ;D
Post by: trebor1652 on May 30, 2023, 10:36:59 AM
I wonder if after the cars are out of warranty main dealers will charge customers silly money for a 'silly con' cure.What have you been on? I want some of it
Perhaps the former Governer of the Bank of England , Mark Carney , can chair an investigation into the scandal. 'Silly-con Carney.' ;D
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Post by: Lord Voltermore on May 30, 2023, 12:37:25 PM
What have you been on? I want some of it
I dont know. Some stuff I get from the county council. I think. The lad that delivers it said he works on county lines, which I though strange as he uses a mobile number. Maybe the council tax will be less if their employees didnt have such flash cars. ;)
For those who dont get the joke (such as it is) google 'county lines'.
Post by: SebastianTR on May 30, 2023, 01:58:48 PM
Be wary of normal WD40 as it's designed to dry and can make it worse over time.
Back in the day you could spray it into the distributor cap to dry out any moisture stopping the points working properly.
Maybe.
It just a experimental work. I didn't know it was work but after that I didn't find any spare time for car.
Will look into later
Post by: aphybrid on May 31, 2023, 07:04:11 AM
Be wary of normal WD40 as it's designed to dry and can make it worse over time.Yes, Kremmen is right.
Back in the day you could spray it into the distributor cap to dry out any moisture stopping the points working properly.
Forms a lacquer - even used to stick 'pinned' compressor blades on jet engines and also caused some other PTFE based surfaces to swell causing 'stiction'
It dries similarly to a coat of varnish!
Post by: The Duke on June 24, 2023, 03:19:15 PM
Post by: Cake on June 24, 2023, 06:33:50 PM
Post by: Country Cousin on June 27, 2023, 02:36:57 PM
I did exactly that a few days ago :)
My mirrors are still working perfectly OK but I'd noticed a very slight plastic to plastic grinding noise, very quiet. A few squirts of silicone lubricant spray and now silent again.
Where exactly did you squirt the silicone please? I tried this from the outside (with silicone WD40) but the mirror still grinds. Is it necessary to dissemble it?
Post by: Kremmen on June 27, 2023, 03:08:31 PM
It does take a while to soak in
Post by: Geoff_W on June 29, 2023, 12:34:30 PM
My left mirror now also has problems folding backwards when locking the car. About half of the time it retracts only a few degrees. Will make call under the warranty.Mine too, has begun to be intermittent on closure. It started during the hot, dry weather. Time to contact the dealer.
Update 10/07/23: Car at the dealership today. Fortunately, I had done a video of the non-functioning mirror so the service department has noted that the issue has been observed. A BCM reset was carried out (whatever that means) and the service report states "If any further issues persist would advise to bring back & potential wing mirror replacement needed."
So I'll just have to see what happens...
Post by: davejazz on August 11, 2023, 03:07:48 PM
I did exactly that a few days ago :)
My mirrors are still working perfectly OK but I'd noticed a very slight plastic to plastic grinding noise, very quiet. A few squirts of silicone lubricant spray and now silent again.
Yes, my nearside one is now noisier than the offside.
Having run out of “elbow”, I will try the “silicone”.
That’s not likely to get me any wringing of hands,when they see the white remnants of silicone, after my DIY?
Post by: Country Cousin on August 11, 2023, 03:43:45 PM
I asked whether it was possible to take the unit apart to find out exactly which part is defective. He declined this saying if they couldn’t then fix it the warranty claim with Honda would be compromised.
What bothers me is if replaced with like for like and this is a design flaw, the same may well happen again - eventually when no longer under warranty.
When it is replaced I will ask if i can have the old one back to ‘dissect’ it and find out what the pathology is (unless they have to return the old one to to prove they have replaced it).
I will report back if I discover anything helpful.
Post by: Jayt43 on August 11, 2023, 04:03:44 PM
Post by: tfw7 on August 31, 2023, 04:39:36 PM
3 days ago the right side started making a light noise on unfolding, but nowhere near as loud.
1st service was due, so mentioned the issue.
Just had 1st service today; the left side mirror needs replacing (under warranty) so clearly there is an issue). They have lubricated the right hand one, so hopefully that will be ok.
Just need to wait a couple of weeks to take it in to be replaced.
Post by: Marksla on September 01, 2023, 08:04:08 AM
Post by: The Duke on September 12, 2023, 04:20:59 PM
Post by: tfw7 on September 12, 2023, 06:49:48 PM
Driver (right) side has started being noisy, but on opening.
Post by: Nicksey on December 20, 2023, 11:40:39 AM
Post by: Country Cousin on May 06, 2024, 11:12:38 AM
Post by: JJazz on May 06, 2024, 06:59:14 PM
Post by: Yusaku79 on May 07, 2024, 09:22:28 AM
I reported this issue to my service during my the last visit there, they told me that it's an issue recognized by Honda and they have planned a date to change the motor part that close the mirror.
I hope that this info could be useful for others.
Post by: D-Day on July 08, 2024, 11:57:01 PM
Post by: Beaver on July 09, 2024, 10:06:24 AM
Post by: chicksee on July 15, 2024, 11:19:31 AM
Dealer last year used silicone spray of some sprt and it worked ok for a while and then the problem started again.
Went for a service last week and asked this to be replaced under warranty, sods law it worked ok when they looked at it. They asked if I would take a video when it went wrong the next time. Got home and obviously it had stopped working again, took video and sent them link to it but heard nothing back.
Rang them this morning and chap I spoke to said yes they had seen the video and I would have to take car in for all day investigation, he then informed me this investigation would cost £150 !
I said this cant be right as Ive already paid for extended warranty and am not paying additional for something already paid for.
Anyone else with this problem have to pay for this?
Post by: guest334 on July 15, 2024, 04:30:25 PM
Post by: Kremmen on July 15, 2024, 04:38:28 PM
..... and yet we still hear about so called dealers who are playing hardball
Name and shame and go elsewhere
Post by: RomanianJazz on July 15, 2024, 06:31:59 PM
And you can't actually source just the part that folds the mirror, so if you want to fix this out of warranty then you have to pay for the entire mirror. 500 euros or something
Post by: Sandro on July 15, 2024, 08:27:47 PM
Post by: Nicksey on July 16, 2024, 08:26:53 AM
Post by: coldstart on August 14, 2024, 03:51:15 PM
The left mirror sometimes refuses to unfold on unlocking the car :(
This has happened several times now in decreasing intervals, primarily in the mornings after a cool night.
My friendly Honda dealership has ordered a replacement mirror to be installed on the upcoming first service.
Post by: chicksee on August 14, 2024, 04:04:27 PM
Post by: Kremmen on August 14, 2024, 05:15:41 PM
Plus the possibility of the Russian roulette brake simulator
Post by: coldstart on August 14, 2024, 05:28:42 PM
Check the cost of a replacement against an extended warranty
Plus the possibility of the Russian roulette brake simulator
I'm absolutely set to buy the 5-year warranty extension!
My dealership recommended to do it in year three of ownership (just in case I totaled the car in the meantime - no need to throw away money)
Post by: MKredcar on August 25, 2024, 11:15:57 AM
Post by: Nicksey on August 25, 2024, 01:17:27 PM
I had an issue with the left mirror, it folded but made a grinding noise. That was replaced under warranty. Now the right one sometimes doesn't fold. It goes in a little way then stops, if I give it a gentle push then the mirror folds in all the way. This happens mainly when locking the car. with the engine running it seems more reliable, I think the suggestion about higher voltage might be spot on. I might try the silicon spray trick. My Jazz is a 2021 EX at 21K miles.
I have had both mirror motors replaced now under warranty. A year between failures, the left being the first to pack up.