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Title: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: Terryp on March 28, 2023, 02:04:55 PM
Hi all
I have searched the site but cannot find any relevant info.

I have a Kingston 128gb usb stick and formatted it on my pc before adding music. When I insert the stick and press USB on the unit it advises the stick is incompatible although it shows a stick in the menu. It is a 3.2 usb stick.

Does anyone have any ideas at all please. Thanks.
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: John Ratsey on March 28, 2023, 02:18:10 PM
There are two possibilities:
1. You haven't formatted it as FAT32.
2. The vehicle doesn't like anything as big as 128GB. I think I'm using either 16 or 32GB.

See the discussion at https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-generation-ge-08-13/76169-correct-usb-drive-format.html.
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: Guinness 2 on March 28, 2023, 02:35:37 PM
Yep I think you'll find 128Gb sticks won't format readily into FAT32.  You will need some  a smaller sized stick or get some software to get it into FAT32.  Some info here

https://www.diskpart.com/articles/fat32-option-not-available-1881.html (https://www.diskpart.com/articles/fat32-option-not-available-1881.html)


Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: Kremmen on March 28, 2023, 02:56:17 PM
You need a smaller USB 3 stick formatted to FAT32 and going by the car update requirements format using 'default allocation units'.

My guess is your 128Gb is either exFAT or NTFS
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: Terryp on March 28, 2023, 05:17:01 PM
Yes the 128gb is no good, I found an old 16gb stick that could be formatted to fat32 and it worked. Shame as 128gb still would not be enough for my collection. Many thanks all.
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: ADCO on March 28, 2023, 08:27:03 PM
I use a 128Gb USB stick formatted as FAT32 by a portable utility in Windows "FAT32LargeDriveFormatter". Windows itself will not do a FAT32 format larger than 32Gb. Hope this helps, it worked for me.
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: 5thcivic on March 28, 2023, 09:27:57 PM
I use a free program Fat32 Format, and have two 256GB sticks with all my music uncompressed and these work on legacy players even a good few years old.
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: shufty on March 28, 2023, 09:48:42 PM
...I used Aomei partition assistant std edition (free download) to format a 128gb stick as fat32. With 32kb clusters you'll get about 115gb useable on your 128gb stick. That's a lot of songs  :o ;D
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: Henryge on March 28, 2023, 10:43:00 PM
Hi There, I got a 32gb stick formatted to fat32 then loaded up my songs, Average song 3 to 4min long then bitrate from lowest to highest 96 Kbps MP3,128 Kbps MP3,192 Kbps MP3,256 Kbps MP3. So with compression you can get between 600 and 1600 minutes of music on a 1 GB space, So on 32 GB 4800 songs to 12,800 songs that is alot of songs playing roughly. Henry
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: Kremmen on March 29, 2023, 04:36:05 AM
Using a third party formatting tool in Windows was the ploy we used on older dashcams to use larger SDCards.

It worked and as posted seems to work in the car.

As posted though, do you need music on a large stick that will last year's.

According to one online calculator you can fit 41,667 songs on 128Gb. That's maybe 125,000 minutes or 2,083 hours or 86 days continuous 24x7 !!!

If you drive 2 hours a day that's ~2 years, including weekends.
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: Nicksey on March 29, 2023, 07:59:35 AM
I use a Scandisk 32GB, with music loaded from a Brennan.. which were all loaded from my CDS. I have 1700 tracks currently on it, and that is more than enough for my journeys.
Incidentally, I always have it in shuffle mode and find it doesn't really shuffle that much! I can guarantee that it will play certain tracks repeatedly, and seems to play in 'blocks'. Some songs I never hear! This was the same in my previous cars, so there must be some glitch in the algorithm for selection. Anyone else noticed this?
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: nowster on March 30, 2023, 02:26:26 PM
The ancient version of Android used on the dashboard probably doesn't have support for anything other than FAT32 (and possibly Linux ext2). ExFAT filesystem drivers only became freely¹ available a few years ago.

This is why the Garmin map update instructions specify a USB stick of no more than 16GB. Anything 32GB or larger might be formatted ExFAT or NTFS.

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¹ Free as in Open Source "free".
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: pebbles on March 31, 2023, 10:07:43 AM
use my old small capacity sticks in the car , keep the newer 128 and 256GB for the PC and laptop.

Most of my music files are in the higher quality flac format and , surprisingly , play fine in the car without conversion to mp3.
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: Kremmen on March 31, 2023, 10:32:34 AM
I'd been using a USB2 stick in all my Civics without issue.

When I plugged it into the Jazz it didn't want to know. I formatted and reloaded it and still no joy.

Got the mini profile USB 3.1 stick and it's never failed.
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: nowster on March 31, 2023, 11:21:56 AM
use my old small capacity sticks in the car , keep the newer 128 and 256GB for the PC and laptop.

Most of my music files are in the higher quality flac format and , surprisingly , play fine in the car without conversion to mp3.

The manual has the supported formats for the touchscreen: MP3, WMA, AAC/M4A (in iTunes format¹), FLAC, PCM/WAV. Also video in MP4¹, AVI, MKV, ASF/WMV.

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¹ Stuff downloaded by get-iplayer (https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer) works fine.
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: Kremmen on March 31, 2023, 11:40:48 AM
I just stick with Windows default MP3 as concert quality in a car isn't going to happen.
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: nowster on March 31, 2023, 01:50:31 PM
I just stick with Windows default MP3 as concert quality in a car isn't going to happen.

But MP3 can't replicate all those sub-bass sounds for Crosstar owners.  ;D
Title: Re: Incompatible usb message for music
Post by: Terryp on March 31, 2023, 05:07:24 PM
I did manage to get my drive changed to Fat32 with free software recommended in this thread. I have over 4,000 cds, and enough albums etc to plastic coat a house.

I have just always liked carrying ever tune with me, overkill I know but I’ve spent years collecting and spend loads of time with MP3 tagging software, I think it may be a case of music ocd, I blame Paul gambacini. Thank you all for your replies.