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Title: Auto High-beam
Post by: aphybrid on November 20, 2021, 04:24:39 AM
Has anyone noticed that if auto high-beam is on and the headlights are manually 'flashed' then auto high-beam is cancelled?

When driving I have found that quickly switching lights to Off then back to auto restores it.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: Jayt43 on November 20, 2021, 05:04:15 AM
Did not know that! Will keep an eye out next time.

Auto-high beam rocks though. I love the feature!
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: IanG on November 20, 2021, 05:09:43 AM
If you want to switch auto high beam back on after manually flashing the lights to cancel this feature, you just have to flash the lights manually again, so no need to switch off the auto lights and switch back on again by rotating the light switch to off and auto.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: aphybrid on November 20, 2021, 10:13:43 AM
If you want to switch auto high beam back on after manually flashing the lights to cancel this feature, you just have to flash the lights manually again, so no need to switch off the auto lights and switch back on again by rotating the light switch to off and auto.

I thought I had tried that Ian without success, will try again in case my auto brain not working right.

Thanks, will let you know.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: ColinB on November 20, 2021, 10:47:34 AM
If you want to switch auto high beam back on after manually flashing the lights to cancel this feature, you just have to flash the lights manually again, so no need to switch off the auto lights and switch back on again by rotating the light switch to off and auto.

I thought I had tried that Ian without success, will try again in case my auto brain not working right.

Thanks, will let you know.

If the MK4 is like the MK3, then you have to do an extended flash (lift the stalk towards you for several seconds) in order to reset the auto high beam function.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: Jazzik on November 20, 2021, 12:39:25 PM
Auto-high beam rocks though. I love the feature!

I agree! Compared to the auto-high beam of our previous car (Toyota Yaris) this is perfect.
The Toyota often reacted too late to oncoming traffic and you had to intervene manually.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: Neil Ives on November 20, 2021, 01:43:42 PM
Yes, I agree; auto high/low beam works fine.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: MRCLICKCLICK on November 20, 2021, 04:46:02 PM
Why lfashl your lights - its not q good thing to do - other drivers DONT know what your thinking - nor you know what they are thinking it means - so avoid.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: Kremmen on November 20, 2021, 05:22:50 PM
Never used the high beam. The normal LED dipped allow me to see enough ahead.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: IanG on November 20, 2021, 05:36:36 PM
I tend to use the auto main beam function most of the time, although it usually dips the main beam slightly later then I would do manually. The reason for me doing this is that the other car then clearly sees that I have dipped from main beam, whereas when I dip a little more in advance, the oncoming car often doesn’t realise I am on dipped beam, due to the brightness of the LED headlamps and flashes me to dip my lights. Do others experience drivers flashing them, thinking the bright LED dipped headlights are on main beam, as it occurs frequently with me? If driving on a motorway, the auto dipping sometimes fails to dip for oncoming cars in the other carriageway and it’s these situations when I deselect the auto main beam by flashing the headlights. Typically this will not result in my lights flashing, it will manually dip the auto activated main beam back to regular headlights, so other drivers will not see a flash. Then I can manually switch between dip and main beam by moving the light stalk back and forwards towards the dashboard. When I’m ready to use auto main beam again, I flash the lights toward me, which switches the main beam on continually, as now back in auto mode, until the car detects another vehicle.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: culzean on November 20, 2021, 06:18:28 PM
Are those OEM fitted LED lights legal if people flash you when using them,  apparently my aftermarket classiccarled LED bulbs are not legal, but I never get flashed.  Most German cars have very annoying headlights, but apparently they are legal as well....
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: Jazzik on November 20, 2021, 06:29:53 PM
Never used the high beam. The normal LED dipped allow me to see enough ahead.

I prefer to see as much as possible on the road at night. Since I am not clairvoyant, the lights are on auto high beam by default.
Driven like this for almost three months now and never had a flash of an oncoming car. I think that means it works fine.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: nowster on November 20, 2021, 07:04:20 PM
Never used the high beam. The normal LED dipped allow me to see enough ahead.

It depends on the terrain. Certain roads at night benefit from having a bit of extra distant visibility, especially undulating ones.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: culzean on November 21, 2021, 11:41:00 AM
The middle finger on my left hand, combined with my visual equipment means my main beam is down to dip before the other vehicle has the slightest chance of being dazzled,  at night you can see another vehicles headlights long before the sensor on your car does ( even around bends  :o ).  They could probably make it more sensitive but then ( unlike humans ) it could get confused by street lights, keep left bollards and reflections from road signs and pretty much anything else that humans are very capable of ignoring...
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: Neil Ives on November 21, 2021, 01:16:08 PM
I tend to use the auto main beam function most of the time, although it usually dips the main beam slightly later then I would do manually. The reason for me doing this is that the other car then clearly sees that I have dipped from main beam, whereas when I dip a little more in advance, the oncoming car often doesn’t realise I am on dipped beam, due to the brightness of the LED headlamps and flashes me to dip my lights.
Yes, agreed.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: Kremmen on November 21, 2021, 01:54:41 PM
How does the auto high beam fare with oncoming cyclists with small LED's, do they get blinded   :-\
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: Jazzik on November 21, 2021, 02:15:06 PM
My experience is that a cyclist with adequate (LED) lighting will not be dazzled. Our Jazz responds to good bicycle lighting (not a small candle flame), just like street lighting, etc., with dipping.
As said before: I think the auto high beam (https://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/verschiedene/a046.gif) works perfectly. So far I haven't had to manually correct once.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: culzean on November 21, 2021, 02:34:56 PM
How does the auto high beam fare with oncoming cyclists with small LED's, do they get blinded   :-\

How about pedestrians,  as a courtesy I will dip for pedestrians..... How about vehicles in side turnings........ Humans are so much better than this pseudo automation,
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: Lord Voltermore on November 21, 2021, 03:10:10 PM
Cyclists,pedestrians etc are some of the reasons I still think dipping should be done by the driver  even if auto high beam is  there as a back up.

But drivers are not as considerate as they were in other areas.  I recently got soaked walking to the doctors for my covid booster.  Few, if any ,drivers tried to avoid driving through large puddles.  >:(   
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: shufty on November 21, 2021, 04:54:42 PM
Why lfashl your lights - its not q good thing to do - other drivers DONT know what your thinking - nor you know what they are thinking it means - so avoid.

Qeh?
This isn't done in the face of on coming traffic as such, they are talking about the auto high beam feature and manually
cancelling it by a flash of the lights.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: ColinS on November 21, 2021, 07:55:28 PM
I recently got soaked walking to the doctors for my covid booster.  Few, if any ,drivers tried to avoid driving through large puddles.  >:(   

Did you know that is actually illegal?  I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted though.

As a trivia, it is also illegal for any vehicle, other than a postal vehicle, to drive over fire hoses.  Dates back to the first postal service days when the Royal Mail took precedence over everything and it has never been repealed to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: Lord Voltermore on November 22, 2021, 10:34:50 AM
I recently got soaked walking to the doctors for my covid booster.  Few, if any ,drivers tried to avoid driving through large puddles.  >:(   

Did you know that is actually illegal?  I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted though.

As a trivia, it is also illegal for any vehicle, other than a postal vehicle, to drive over fire hoses.  Dates back to the first postal service days when the Royal Mail took precedence over everything and it has never been repealed to my knowledge.

I think it can be prosecuted as 'careless and inconsiderate driving. ' (You've created a crime wave   ;D )  And back on topic, you can also  be prosecuted under the same law for not dipping your headlights. I doubt auto high beam would be accepted as a defence.   
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: ColinS on November 22, 2021, 11:48:04 AM
I think it can be prosecuted as 'careless and inconsiderate driving. ' (You've created a crime wave   ;D )  And back on topic, you can also  be prosecuted under the same law for not dipping your headlights. I doubt auto high beam would be accepted as a defence.

Your 'crime wave' comment made me laugh.  As for defence, I don't think any autonomous gadgets would stand up in court.  It is the driver who is always responsible.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: Lord Voltermore on November 22, 2021, 03:24:46 PM
Yes. Highway code rule 150 , Driver is still responsible if you use driver assistance systems.
Title: Re: Auto High-beam
Post by: aphybrid on November 22, 2021, 07:31:31 PM
Why lfashl your lights - its not q good thing to do - other drivers DONT know what your thinking - nor you know what they are thinking it means - so avoid.

Only flashing for short time to confirm road clear of potholes for instance then with no one in sight to reset autobeam