Just it will be the one part that all the forum posters dislike.Not all, just a vocal minority.
Has been a problem in the US for a few years, with legal actions:Just it will be the one part that all the forum posters dislike.Not all, just a vocal minority.
That's not what it is about... We are talking about "Assisted Driving Gradings".Yes, it’s a brand new test specifically for driver assistance systems.
https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/assisted-driving-gradings/
"On this page you will find the gradings of cars tested by Euro NCAP on automated driving technologies.
For its 2020 assessment of Highway Assist systems, Euro NCAP has developed dedicated test and assessment protocols, divided into two main areas: Assistance Competence, based on the balance between Driver Engagement and Vehicle Assistance, and Safety Backup."
There are 15 manufacturers on the list. Of those 15 only one model.Probably because some of them aren’t very good - in the video below when tested some cars automatic braking actually splatted the pedestrians compared to other manufacturers:
Why is Honda not on the list and why am I also missing the following brands?
Just a few examples:
Alfa Romeo
Chevrolet
Chrysler
Dacia ;)
Hyundai
Kia
Maserati
Mazda
Mitsubishi
etcetera, etcetera?
Probably because some of them aren’t very good - in the video below when tested some cars automatic braking actually splatted the pedestrians compared to other manufacturers:
Ford - Everything we do is driven by BOTH of you! Whoopsie!
Probably because some of them aren’t very good - in the video below when tested some cars automatic braking actually splatted the pedestrians compared to other manufacturers:
Ford - Everything we do is driven by BOTH of you! Whoopsie!
This is NOT a quote of what I wrote! That was Sportse:Probably because some of them aren’t very good - in the video below when tested some cars automatic braking actually splatted the pedestrians compared to other manufacturers:
Please quote correctly....
Plus, for me, its insistence that I indicate every manoeuvre even when I'm the only car on the road.That's how I was taught to drive.
Plus, for me, its insistence that I indicate every manoeuvre even when I'm the only car on the road.That's how I was taught to drive.
We already had this discussion but...Plus, for me, its insistence that I indicate every manoeuvre even when I'm the only car on the road.That's how I was taught to drive.
Never indicate unless another driver can be either helped or warned by my indicator..... I never trust an indicator when I did not see it start flashing, and even then take more notice of what the vehicle is doing than what its indicator says.... Call me an indicator sceptic, but then I ride motorbikes and have learned the hard way....
Never indicate unless another driver can be either helped or warned by my indicator..... I never trust an indicator when I did not see it start flashing, and even then take more notice of what the vehicle is doing than what its indicator says.... Call me an indicator sceptic, but then I ride motorbikes and have learned the hard way....
Never indicate unless another driver can be either helped or warned by my indicator..... I never trust an indicator when I did not see it start flashing, and even then take more notice of what the vehicle is doing than what its indicator says.... Call me an indicator sceptic, but then I ride motorbikes and have learned the hard way....
Let me guess... (https://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/a015.gif) Your car is a BMW or an Audi?
I am aware who is around me and where they are.... I don't just indicate so that I can say in court 'well I indicated, I always do'.....
Plus, for me, its insistence that I indicate every manoeuvre even when I'm the only car on the road.That's how I was taught to drive.
Never indicate unless another driver can be either helped or warned by my indicator..... I never trust an indicator when I did not see it start flashing, and even then take more notice of what the vehicle is doing than what its indicator says.... Call me an indicator sceptic, but then I ride motorbikes and have learned the hard way....
Advanced driving manuals (such as roadcraft, the official police advanced driving manual thats available to the public) advocates making a conscious decision when and whether to indicate, every time. (or it did when I last read it) A decision to deliberately not indicate on this occasion requires enhanced hazard perception taking into account more than just your mirrors, such as oncoming vehicle, pedestrians waiting to cross ,how they are perceived by other drivers, what might develop in the next few seconds etc. It enhances the ability to plan ahead , look round properly and with time to think.
Let me guess... (https://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/a015.gif) Your car is a BMW or an Audi?
Let me guess... (https://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/a015.gif) Your car is a BMW or an Audi?
I've posted similar a few times and often been criticised for not indicating, even when I know I'm the only vehicle, pedestrian, etc on the road.
I've passed 4 driving tests in my time and the IAM also follow the RoadCraft guidelines regarding pointless indicating when you know through observation it's not necessary.
However, I will not criticise anyone who decides to indicate for every manoeuvre, it doesn't hurt.
I'm sorry, but not signalling is lazyiness
I'm sorry, but not signalling is lazyiness
This is a regular topic of discussion with many PDIs that are working towards their Part 2, and I also often come across it when assessing ADIs in preparation for their Check Test. In a nutshell, many PDIs and ADIs are guilty of trying to create a ‘one rule fits all’ approach. In the modern world, this just isn’t workable – there are far too many factors to take into account, and besides, a good driver should be able to decide if and when a signal is appropriate, or when one could lead to confusion or even danger.
I'm sorry, but not signalling is lazyiness
I'm sorry but I disagree. As does the advanced driver schemes.
There are many scenarios where observation takes priority and if there is no one around then who are you indicating to ?QuoteThis is a regular topic of discussion with many PDIs that are working towards their Part 2, and I also often come across it when assessing ADIs in preparation for their Check Test. In a nutshell, many PDIs and ADIs are guilty of trying to create a ‘one rule fits all’ approach. In the modern world, this just isn’t workable – there are far too many factors to take into account, and besides, a good driver should be able to decide if and when a signal is appropriate, or when one could lead to confusion or even danger.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
...and besides, a good driver should be able to decide if and when a signal is appropriate, or when one could lead to confusion or even danger.
Quote...and besides, a good driver should be able to decide if and when a signal is appropriate, or when one could lead to confusion or even danger.
Just a quote from an (anonymous, so questionable) quote.
And just one question: what is the percentage of these on the road? (only include the others in the calculation, not yourself of course :-*).
A survey carried out years back asked drivers if they considered themselves to be above average. Around 90% said that they were. Over to you mathematicians to explain that one.
A survey carried out years back asked drivers if they considered themselves to be above average. Around 90% said that they were.And most men think they are great lovers!
A survey carried out years back asked drivers if they considered themselves to be above average. Around 90% said that they were.And most men think they are great lovers!
A survey carried out years back asked drivers if they considered themselves to be above average. Around 90% said that they were. Over to you mathematicians to explain that one.(https://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/froehlich/a048.gif)(https://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/froehlich/a049.gif)