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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 => Topic started by: fashionphotography on September 03, 2021, 10:30:06 AM
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when i first got this jazz 1.4 all lights were tickedyboo. er i think dash lights would light up etc when i turned on the ignition .. now for some reason they come on as soon as i put in the ignition key ? without turning it.. they fade out when i remove the key ..
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It sounds like you have a problem with your ignition switch, perhaps some contacts have come loose as there should not be any ignition power by just putting the key in.
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It sounds like you have a problem with your ignition switch, perhaps some contacts have come loose as there should not be any ignition power by just putting the key in.
theres no ignition lights coming on untill i turn the key on .. just the iluminations fade on when i insert the key in
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Yes, faulty ignition switch. You can replace the electrical part without needing to replace the lock.
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very strange .. so i take it nothing should iluminate until the actual ignition is turned on ..
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Your not really making it clear what is illuminating when you are inserting the key, there is a switch which detects the key going in/out of the barrel.
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just the dashboard iluminations.. no ignition warning lights untill the ignition is turned on'
theres no exterior lights on or switched on .
i just removed the lower steering column cowling .. looked at the ign switch plugs gave them a wiggle etc 3 of them .. main and 2 smaller green plugs .. but made no difference..
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there is a switch which detects the key going in/out of the barrel.
You are confused here. There is an antenna that detects the chip in the key but it doesn't know the key is in the barrel. Just that the correct key is close enough that the antenna signal is seen by the chip and the resultant chip signal is seen by the antenna.
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correct jocko.. theres 3 plugs on the switch the main one and a green plug right by the entrance ring . im guessing that will be the imobiliser ring sensor. then theres another green one behind it.. that could be something to to with the dash lighting ? although i had another look and pulled all the connections and used electrical cleaner on the plugs and switches.. but still the same .. maybe a relay fault ? thinking.. or was hoping this is how it should be lol as its kind of funky having the dash iluminate as soon as you put the key in.
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there is a switch which detects the key going in/out of the barrel.
You are confused here.
Oh no, I'm not confused, this is the wiring diagram for the key in switch, it detect a key in the barrel.
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steve-M does it show a switch which activates the dash lighting though ?
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Its been a while since I have driven a Mk1 Jazz, but the switch on the ignition barrel detects the key being inserted into the lock barrel. This is connected to the meter, whether it turns the meter illumination on or not I cant say, someone with a similar grade/model Jazz may be able to answer that.
From your description, I dont believe you have a problem and it is completely normal and perhaps you just did not notice it previously.
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maybe..... im sure the dash only lit up once the ignition was turned on ..also im sure the dash lighting was a lot brighter than it is now.. and thats on full reastat adjustment.. but im getting old lol..
think most of the little quirky problems are due to the car only doing eleven thousand miles in the last 4 years .. sometimes low mileage cars are not the best thing of this age.. ive done 1000 plus since i got it a month ago
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Oh no, I'm not confused, this is the wiring diagram for the key in switch, it detect a key in the barrel.
Not 0n the Mk 1.
(https://i.imgur.com/ueINJSm.jpg)
And when you put the key in the ignition nothing happens. When you turn the ignition on the instruments and fibometer come on. They don't even come on in ACC.
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from jocko
And when you put the key in the ignition nothing happens. When you turn the ignition on the instruments and fibometer come on. They don't even come on in ACC.
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yep im sure thats how it used to be.. ho hum havent got a clue whats happened then lol.. it still starts and runs fine with no lighting problems apart from dash lighting isnt as bright on full as it was .. plus this funky fault of the dash lighting up as soon as i start to put the key in the ign lol
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Its been a while since I have driven a Mk1 Jazz, but the switch on the ignition barrel detects the key being inserted into the lock barrel. This is connected to the meter, whether it turns the meter illumination on or not I cant say, someone with a similar grade/model Jazz may be able to answer that.
From your description, I dont believe you have a problem and it is completely normal and perhaps you just did not notice it previously.
I don't think he has a problem either, that's exactly how our 2008 Jazz behaves.
1. When you unlock the car with the fob, the interior light comes on.
2. When you open the door, the instrument backlight illuminates at half brightness.
3. If you insert the key, the instrument backlights fade up to set brightness.
4. Remove the key and the backlights fade out to off, re-insert and the backlighting fades back up to set brightness. You can repeat this as many times as you like.
5. Turning the key to position I (accessory) illuminates the rest of the dash backlighting, including radio.
6. Turning the key to position II (ignition) illuminates the ignition lights and starts the self test.
All normal, certainly on the later (06-08) Chinese built cars. There are a few differences electrically to earlier models, so it is possible that the behaviour is also different.
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thats exactly how mines working .. the dash iluminations fade on when keys inserted and slowly fade out when key is removed and yes interior lighting comes on when unlocking the car with the remote key button and slowly fades out when locked . plus just checked it the dash does iluminate when the doors opened then if you shut the door it stays iluminated until you lock it then it instantly goes out..
funny im sure it was different when i first got it . maybe the glitch was at first and now its corrected itself ??
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funny im sure it was different when i first got it . maybe the glitch was at first and now its corrected itself ??
It sounds like it's all behaving normally. Perhaps it was daytime and you didn't tnotice it illuminating?
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Mine is a Japanese 06. It is also an S, so that may make a difference.
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it was deffo only coming on with the ignition . but yes its all a lot funkyer now lol.. all i have left now is this light intermittent chaffing (scrapping ) noise when i turn right only.. just started last weekend .. doesnt do it all the time..
although took it into my garage today they couldnt find much wrong .. its had new pads etc .. but they also changed the new tyres and wheels from the back to the front .. maybe the vibration of the air gun on the hubs could of joggled something . that fixed the dash lighting ? thanks sparky anyway
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From my manual:
On some types, the instrument panel
illuminates when you open the
driver’s door, and the gauges
illuminate when you turn the ignition
switch to the ON (II) position.
No mention of detecting the key.
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jocko.. maybe a bit of missinfo in the manual.. got to admit i looked through mine and couldnt find anything about in the book.. but could of missed it.. at least my minds at ease about it now as other jazz models do the same..
thanks to everyone for the input
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The circuit diagram for the Mk1 doesn't show a key detector. The Mk2 diagram does.
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The circuit diagram for the Mk1 doesn't show a key detector. The Mk2 diagram does.
Not true
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This is how my Jazz behaves and is completely normal, at least for facelift SE and Sport models. S models use the same instruments as the pre-facelift models.
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This is how my Jazz behaves and is completely normal, at least for facelift SE and Sport models. S models use the same instruments as the pre-facelift models.
Same for my '05 Japan SE
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From my manual:
On some types, the instrument panel
illuminates when you open the
driver’s door, and the gauges
illuminate when you turn the ignition
switch to the ON (II) position.
No mention of detecting the key.
There definitely is a switch to detect key insertion, at least on some models.
Bottom left hand corner of this schematic
http://www.hondafitjazz.com/manual/A00/HTML/00/SAA2E00000000000000EBAT00i012.HTML