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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - => Topic started by: Madelvic on July 21, 2020, 05:28:18 PM
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I've seen neither the Jazz nor the Crosstar in the flesh yet, but the Jazz just looks so ugly. Am I wrong?
Personally I think Honda nailed it with the Mk2. Mk3 is just too fussy, the Mk1 looks feeble. But the Mk4......
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I'm not keen either, perhaps it grows on you.
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If you look at the Jazz/Fit on Wikipedia there is a picture of a Chinese Mk4 Sport with a proper grill. It looks so much better.
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I think the Mk 4 Jazz fine: A smoother shape with a curved front edge to the bonnet will improve both the aerodynamics and pedestrian safety while the radiator grill is reduced to the minimum needed to provide adequate air intake for summer cooling while reducing excess ventilation in the winter. The Crosstar has a chunkier front end which may be a factor in the worse performance and fuel economy compared to the basic Mk 4.
Anyway, how the vehicle looks is less important than how it drives and Honda got that aspect right. The most ugly vehicle of recent years, in my reckoning, has to the Chrysler PT Cruiser but since they sold over a million then some people must have liked it.
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You can't see the front of the car from the driver's seat :)
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A lot of car buyers biggest priorities now are looks, prestige and how much per month.
Although car sales plummeted throughout the lockdown, a significant number of cars were sold online, with no test drive, and delivered to the house. I know someone that did exactly that, without even seeing an example of the car in the flesh!
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I preferred the front of the Crosstar but I think the front other Jazz models looks better when you actually see the car than in photos.
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I wasn’t keen on the Mk3 external styling, it seemed a bit too “bling-y” for my taste. But I bought one anyway because for me function is more important than form and you don’t see it when you’re sitting inside it!
But I must have got used to it because by contrast the Mk4 seems a bit anodyne and difficult to distinguish from many other small hatchbacks.
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My answer to the title question is NO. I don't fall in love with the styling but for what it is - a small SUV - it's a pretty good and practical styling which does state a significant difference to other comparable cars out there.
EDIT: test-drive yesterday. Very impressed. We're about to (on Monday exactly) order a Platinum White Pearl with 15'' allows as an 'upgrade' (to maximize comfort). The car will be delivered in 2-3 weeks I hope. I'm really looking forward to have this new toy. :)
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Thanks all. I know looks isn't everything, but I just couldn't buy a car I thought was ugly!
Prompted by the comments I see in Japan Honda sells a kit to change the front end. Cost is a reasonable £240
https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-industry-news/honda-is-giving-the-2020-fit-jazz-a-brand-new-grill.html
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Thanks all. I know looks isn't everything, but I just couldn't buy a car I thought was ugly!
Prompted by the comments I see in Japan Honda sells a kit to change the front end. Cost is a reasonable £240
https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-industry-news/honda-is-giving-the-2020-fit-jazz-a-brand-new-grill.html
That looks a lot better, a bit cheeky charging money for a plastic stick on fake grille but it benefits and looks more normal. The other wheels and pieces of kit also improve the looks. I'm not keen on the standard alloys on the EX model those odd alloy blades bolted on. A complete alloy wheel looks more attractive.
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Those alloy "blades" are plastic.
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Those alloy "blades" are plastic.
Really?! So they are steel wheels with plastic trims? I thought they were described as alloy wheels on the EX ?
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As I said elsewhere, they are advertised as alloys so they will be black powder-coated alloys with plastic silver trim.
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As I said elsewhere, they are advertised as alloys so they will be black powder-coated alloys with plastic silver trim.
Seems an odd approach not what most would assume as alloy wheels or good value.
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I've seen neither the Jazz nor the Crosstar in the flesh yet, but the Jazz just looks so ugly. Am I wrong?
Personally I think Honda nailed it with the Mk2. Mk3 is just too fussy, the Mk1 looks feeble. But the Mk4......
Mk2 original or the facelift?
I also reckon the Mk2 was a winner, seems the original version was better made than the facelift, well in terms of the quality of the interior fabrics and the steering wheel that didn't start flaking off.
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I have an EX on order. I was very disappointed when I noticed that the wheels were so cheap and nasty with those plastic trims. Definitely something that only a mother could love.
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I have an EX on order. I was very disappointed when I noticed that the wheels were so cheap and nasty with those plastic trims. Definitely something that only a mother could love.
Are the wheels not just black steel with alloy blade style finishing trims attached? I realise the SE is plastic wheel trims but the other models have “alloy wheels” which may refer just to the face trim not the entire wheel. In a way this is useful as in the event of scraping one you just bolt on a new trim piece less complicated than a wheel refurbishment.
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They are much easier to clean.
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definitely not for me, i have had all 3 mks of jazz and this one is so unattractive compared with the previous models. those so called alloys look awful and the crosstar is trying to be something its not with those plastic wheel arches. honda need to improve on their designs before i would buy another.
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Why would they advertise as alloys and then cover them with plastic trims.
Having said that, my Xantias had plastic trims, on steel wheels, and they worked well. They were held in place by the 4 main wheel studs and as mentioned were easier to clean.
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Why would they advertise as alloys and then cover them with plastic trims.
Because that’s what they are, a black alloy wheel with a silver plastic trim covering a part of the wheel held on with the wheel nuts.
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Interesting.
My experience of alloys is that they need to be kept clean or they get surface corrosion. If they are shielded with trims...........
Hopefully the trims will protect the lacquer from chips that tend to be the problem
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The alloys are black powder-coated so not lacquered. Unless you kerb a wheel and damage the powder coating, they are pretty well impervious to corrosion.
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Came across this image of a Chinese Mk4. The front end looks much better than the European model, but it wont put me off buying one.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GAC-Honda_FIT_SPORT_front_202006_(cropped).jpg#/media/File:GAC-Honda_FIT_SPORT_front_202006_(cropped).jpg
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To be fare, I don't think anyone ever bought a Jazz on the basis of the aesthetics! It would be a stretch to call any of them good looking. The Jazz does a lot of things extremely well and that's why most folk buy them. The reliability and practicality are second to none, low running costs, well made, which is why I have one on my drive. Anyway, you can't see the outside from inside, so who cares! :D
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Came across this image of a Chinese Mk4.
If you're interested in the various Fit/Jazz available worldwide, you can find more here:
https://en.wheelsage.org/honda/fit/2020-xx
https://www.honda.com.cn/honda/automobiles/carinfo/FIT.html
There's an after-sale alternate front grille available in Japan, in the Honda Access line:
https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=12447.msg88116#msg88116
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The Sport models have consistently looked great since the mk1. The regular models have always looked like appliances - even more so with the mk4, especially in “Morphy Richards white”. Thankfully the UK at least gets the Crosstar ;)