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Other Hondas & General Topics => Off Topic (Non-Honda) => Topic started by: RichardA on January 08, 2010, 09:51:10 PM
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Drove home in blizzard conditions today and on Wednesday. -4 C yestaday morning and the deicer fluid was useless.
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My BMW 118d M Sport was a complete PITA the last couple of days! :o
RWD + SNOW = FAIL
My girlfriend's Jazz delt with it no probs. 8)
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I struggled with my jazz in the snow, back end kept throwing out, not fun!! Although managed ok with the stop start traffic! Thinking about buying some snow chains or putting something very heavy in the boot :-\
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My BMW 118d M Sport was a complete PITA the last couple of days! :o
RWD + SNOW = FAIL
I wonder how everyone coped 30+ years ago with rear-wheel drive cars like the Ford Cortina, older Escorts, Morris Marina etc?
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I struggled with my jazz in the snow, back end kept throwing out, not fun!! Although managed ok with the stop start traffic! Thinking about buying some snow chains or putting something very heavy in the boot :-\
Putting something heavy in the boot is for rear wheel drive cars! It's to aid grip for the driving wheels! ::)
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My BMW 118d M Sport was a complete PITA the last couple of days! :o
RWD + SNOW = FAIL
I wonder how everyone coped 30+ years ago with rear-wheel drive cars like the Ford Cortina, older Escorts, Morris Marina etc?
We managed very well thank you! Even without traction control or ABS or radial ply tyres or snow chains!
You MUST adapt your driving to the conditions. Never be in a hurry and don't do anything suddenly!
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Haven't had any problems getting around with my Jazz, neither has my wife in hers (she came home laughing the other day as she had driven past quite a few cars that were either stuck or being pushed up hills). Tyres are 'Michelin energy savers' - so are not particularly designed for snow.
The Jazz has the advantage of front wheel drive (where the weight of the engine is over the driving wheels), it also has the fuel tank mounted towards the front of the car which also helps keep weight over the driving wheels (keep you tank topped up to help with traction and also in case you do get stuck for a long time).
Rear wheel drive cars haven't got a lot of weight on the driving wheels (the original Volkswagen Beetle had the engine in the rear, which together with narrow tyres made it pretty good in snow), and also the front wheels tend to build up a wedge of snow which the car has to push along or drive over, which adds to the problem.
Rear wheel drive and wide tyres are the worst things to have on snow - BMW owners like my neigbour can't even move on flat ground, let alone tackle a hill.
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We had a good 10cm or so of snow on Thursday and I managed to slide the Jazz 223ft (74 yards) down a 14% gradient on a non-gritted local road. I ended up clipping the kerb but the only damage was a chip less than an inch on the nearside front wheel.
Edit: local road? B road route to the hospital!
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We had a good 10cm or so of snow on Thursday and I managed to slide the Jazz 223ft (74 yards) down a 14% gradient on a non-gritted local road. I ended up clipping the kerb but the only damage was a chip less than an inch on the nearside front wheel.
Had a similar problem just before Christmas. I barked the alloy on the left front wheel on a tall kerbstone. Does anyone have any experience of mobile alloy wheel repairers?