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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk3 2015-2020 => Topic started by: guest6112 on May 01, 2018, 08:18:02 AM
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I have now had a poke around the car. It seems to ride better and is quieter than the 1.3. It is less frenetic to get it moving although I am only using running in power at the moment. A couple of things I have noticed, the vacuum pump (the Atkinson cycle doesn't produce enough to supply the brake servo) is replaced on the end of the exhaust camshaft with the high pressure fuel pump. The LED headlights are self leveling and don't have an adjuster, they have six main LEDs the four outer ones for dip beam and the two inner ones for main beam, all six are on for main beam. it uses the headlight DRLs as front sidelights. I have only seen the headlights on in a multi storey car park, seriously white and bright.
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The 1.5 has shorter gear ratios, so the engine will be noisier. Also suspensions should be stiffer than the 1.3.
Italian newspapers all talk about a less confortable car compared with the 1.3.
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My Jazz is a CVT so only virtual gear ratios if you choose to use them. I suspect the smoother suspension is more down to the facelift model modifications than the sport model and I would expect them to be applicable to all 2018 facelift versions. I always take journalists opinions with a huge pinch of salt when it comes to cars, I was driving before many of them were born and only a few of them are motoring specialists.
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Ok, I was talking about the manual gears, yes, maybe the CVT works differently.
Concerning journalists, almost one of them commented instrumental noise data, so it's not a matter of age...
Happy to read your opinion about headlights... Finally Jazz has a decent hedalight system, even if only for higher trims.
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I was driving before many of them were born and only a few of them are motoring specialists.
And most of them seem to be idiots.
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Enjoy your new car. Looking forward to further updates.
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Yeah. It really makes me hope that the new Hybrid Jazz (1.5+electric) is eventually coming to the UK. Hopefully with a CVT rather than the DSG that Malaysia got but I'll keep an open mind on that.
Note to Honda: I'm thinking of replacing my car next year. I might forgive a lot of the glitches with the Mk3 if you have a hybrid available ;)
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Yeah. It really makes me hope that the new Hybrid Jazz (1.5+electric) is eventually coming to the UK. Hopefully with a CVT rather than the DSG that Malaysia got but I'll keep an open mind on that.
Note to Honda: I'm thinking of replacing my car next year. I might forgive a lot of the glitches with the Mk3 if you have a hybrid available ;)
If or when the hybrid comes to the UK I would put money on it having the 1.3 engine with an electric motor. The 1.3 is meant to be in a hybrid car, that is why it is gutless at low revs, it was designed to have a motor to boost it. The 1.5 is a whole different ball game and certainly does not need a motor to boost it.
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Rumors say the new Jazz Fit will come next year in Japan, and will be avaiable in Europe in 2020.
Hybrid Jazz probably will lose the dual clutch, the powertrain will be similar to the new Insight, so 1.5 atkinson and Ecvt.
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This is very much what the Brand Manager was saying when I collected my car in February this year. Only difference is that he said that it would not be available in the UK until sometime in 2021
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Rumors talk about 2020 considering one year later the debut in Japan, but the actual Jazz GK came two years later, debut was in 2013 (Japan) but european sales started in september 2015. So yes, 2021 could be right...
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May sound silly but i was going to get an abarth 595 145 bhp mta semi automatic but now i am thinking of a honda jazz sport cvt instead i know the honda will be more reliable than a fiat though.
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May sound silly but i was going to get an abarth 595 145 bhp mta semi automatic but now i am thinking of a honda jazz sport cvt instead i know the honda will be more reliable than a fiat though.
Several years ago I knew someone who wanted an Abarth but went with a Nissan Sunny Turbo instead for the same reasons. Manual rather than automatic but it's amazing what sticking a turbo onto an engine can do. I owned a couple of Sunnies. The 1.5 12v was a surprising goer - the last Nissan produced without a catalytic converter. Also the last one without an ECU - it had more valves and rubber tubes than you'd believe.
Then I owned an Almera. Not quite such a goer but the rear suspension was impressive. I forget the name of it but it kept the rear wheels perpendicular to the road surface on bends. Amazing grip at the rear. Only car I've owned that went through tyres at the same rate front and back.
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I have noticed a rotary sensor with wiring on the bodywork operated by a short link to the nearside front lower suspension arm. There is also one on the nearside of the rear suspension. Any ideas? I don't think my 1.3 had these.
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This is most likely to be connected with the auto levelling of the LED headlights.
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This is most likely to be connected with the auto levelling of the LED headlights.
I hadn't thought of that, sounds reasonable. The sensors are a bit exposed to the wheel spray but hopefully Mr Honda has thought of that.
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Led headlights must have an autoleveling system, and if there are more than 2000lumens, also the headlight washer.
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I have just checked (in my dark garage) with the ignition on you can hear the headlight motors running and see the lights adjusting when you apply weight to the rear of the car. I knew the lights are self adjusting as there is no manual adjuster.
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Yes.
The automatic level adjuster will work also when you are braking, keeping headlights at the correct level. In some cars the level changes depending from the speed, higher speed will cause a little bit higher level.
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Yes.
The automatic level adjuster will work also when you are braking, keeping headlights at the correct level. In some cars the level changes depending from the speed, higher speed will cause a little bit higher level.
I went out on Saturday evening, drove back about midnight on country roads. The LED headlights are very bright and I got a few flashed headlights from on-coming cars. The headlights on dip are on the road and not high. Maybe I will get the Honda Garage to check the adjustment just in case.
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It's a pity the equipment level on the sport is so poor. But then again I'm pretty sure my next car is going to be a hybrid anyway. Still - the Malaysian hybrid Jazz has a 1.5l engine. That might make it here as I believe that Honda have changed the way their hybrid system works. It's no longer just a boost to a small engine but is supposed to be an alternate power source like the Toyota system.
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It's a pity the equipment level on the sport is so poor. But then again I'm pretty sure my next car is going to be a hybrid anyway. Still - the Malaysian hybrid Jazz has a 1.5l engine. That might make it here as I believe that Honda have changed the way their hybrid system works. It's no longer just a boost to a small engine but is supposed to be an alternate power source like the Toyota system.
Not having Climate Control is hardly poverty spec, I bought my SE because I did not want it.
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It's a pity the equipment level on the sport is so poor. But then again I'm pretty sure my next car is going to be a hybrid anyway. Still - the Malaysian hybrid Jazz has a 1.5l engine. That might make it here as I believe that Honda have changed the way their hybrid system works. It's no longer just a boost to a small engine but is supposed to be an alternate power source like the Toyota system.
I'm with you on the spec side. I've had climate control on my last 5 cars and would not want to be without it now. I also like the rear camera and think I would find it hard to adjust to not having one.
If they don't put the 1.5 in the EX before next March, I will probably go for a HR-V EX.
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It's a pity the equipment level on the sport is so poor. But then again I'm pretty sure my next car is going to be a hybrid anyway. Still - the Malaysian hybrid Jazz has a 1.5l engine. That might make it here as I believe that Honda have changed the way their hybrid system works. It's no longer just a boost to a small engine but is supposed to be an alternate power source like the Toyota system.
Jazz Sport is basically a SE, plus Led headlights and some aestethical tips.
Malaysian hybrid Jazz/Fit are the same sold in Japan, so 1.5vtec plus 7gears DCT plus a single electric motor joined to the DCT, adding about 20hp.
Next generation hybrid Jazz Fit will probably have the i-MMD system, so E-CVT similar to new CR-V Hybrid, Accord Hybrid and new Insight.
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Interesting review of the i-MMD system, from June, last year.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/cr-v/99700/honda-i-mmd-hybrid-prototype-review (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/cr-v/99700/honda-i-mmd-hybrid-prototype-review)
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A hybrid system is an unnecessary complication I can do without. I decided on the jazz because it has a normally aspirated engine without the complication of a turbo or batteries etc.
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A hybrid system is an unnecessary complication I can do without. I decided on the jazz because it has a normally aspirated engine without the complication of a turbo or batteries etc.
+1
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A hybrid system is an unnecessary complication I can do without. I decided on the jazz because it has a normally aspirated engine without the complication of a turbo or batteries etc.
A Hybrid system with batteries and electric motors is a necessary complication to keep low vehicle emissions, especially C02. And it's only one of many complications we have seen in this and past years, otherwise we would now drive some less complicated R4, Fiat500, Mini, 2CV and so on.
Considering:
-the CO2 limits which will enter in next years;
-diesel engines will not be a good solution for small and medium size cars;
-manufacturers will pay a big amount of money for each vehicle sold exceeding CO2 limits, and this fines will be "moved" to customers;
you can easily understand why many manifacturers are running foward hybrids and pure electrics. Honda will not be an exception in that.
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I would give my right hand (probably!) for a R4! Such joy!
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I ignore tree huggers greenwash. Start by banning wars, they produce more pollution than the UKs cars.
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I would give my right hand (probably!) for a R4! Such joy!
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/classic_cars.php?category=&make=36®ion=&country=1&era=&type=&price=&keyword=Renault+4&S.x=57&S.y=15&S=Search
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I ignore tree huggers greenwash. Start by banning wars, they produce more pollution than the UKs cars.
It's all the foreign holidays that's doing it. Compulsory holidays to Bognor, Millport and the like. That's what we need.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44005013 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44005013)
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I ignore tree huggers greenwash. Start by banning wars, they produce more pollution than the UKs cars.
It's all the foreign holidays that's doing it. Compulsory holidays to Bognor, Millport and the like. That's what we need.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44005013 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44005013)
I did notice that when the volcano in Iceland* erupted a few years ago and flights were banned for a couple of weeks how blue the sky was, I don't remember seeing a sky that blue since I was a kid. Same thing happened after 9/11 in USA when flights were banned, people over there remarked on the blueness of the sky.
(* Asda, Tesco, Morrisons and Sainbury's have all been remarkably free of volcanic eruptions).
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A hybrid system is an unnecessary complication I can do without. I decided on the jazz because it has a normally aspirated engine without the complication of a turbo or batteries etc.
A Hybrid system with batteries and electric motors is a necessary complication to keep low vehicle emissions, especially C02. And it's only one of many complications we have seen in this and past years, otherwise we would now drive some less complicated R4, Fiat500, Mini, 2CV and so on.
Considering:
-the CO2 limits which will enter in next years;
-diesel engines will not be a good solution for small and medium size cars;
-manufacturers will pay a big amount of money for each vehicle sold exceeding CO2 limits, and this fines will be "moved" to customers;
you can easily understand why many manifacturers are running foward hybrids and pure electrics. Honda will not be an exception in that.
A lot of people now opt for plug-in hybrids (PHEV) as company vehicles because of tax and congestion charge benefits but a survey last year found that few people actually charge them, they just drag 500kilos of battery around with them and get about 30mpg. and are happy t do it, because their vehicle is sold as very low CO2 and 140mpg which nicely bypasses the regulations. and gets them good tax breaks.
http://greencarsite.co.uk/mitsubishi-outlander-plug-in-electric-car/
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Accountants are the biggest crooks out there. They will always fiddle the system for every penny they can. It is just a pity legislation moves so much slower than accountants!