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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Rear pads
« Last post by madasafish on Today at 07:37:19 PM »
I replaced the rear pads on mine and carefully greased all mating surfaces with silicon grease. Result - handbrake is superb..  Will hold car on 1 in 3 hill.
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It is cheaper for dealer to skip the 'service' and then deal with the limited number of people who complain, unfortunately that is the mindset of dealers who care more for their bottom line than for their customers.

It's a tricky one because clearly that's right - the dealer is there to screw as much money out of you as possible, the staff are targeted to do that.  It's never going to make for a good relationship.   Turn down the "premium" service add-on (why would a Jazz need a spare litre of oil?) and the service advisor gets all grumpy.
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: Lost locking wheel nut
« Last post by Rory on Today at 07:06:01 PM »
Get some blu tack, make an impression of the wheel nut take to dealer for their help.

Just take the whole car and the dealer should be able to pick the right one.

We had to buy another for our 2014 Jazz and it was only about 8.  The key card was in the folder in the car with the manual etc.  Of course the 'lost' one then turned up.

If the OP does want to do it remotely then try searching on eBay for one that looks the same - although be careful as they're all pretty similar.   Or there's https://www.lockingwheelnutkeys.co.uk/
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: New facelifted model user manual download?
« Last post by mcderd on Today at 06:14:51 PM »
Agreed, my phones and tablets are on Nougat, I think Honda are still running KitKat?
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Microphones for hands free
« Last post by mcderd on Today at 06:11:38 PM »
Thanks Steve, that's what I was hoping to hear  :)
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Rear pads
« Last post by trebor1652 on Today at 05:43:46 PM »
Hand brakes on disc pads never work as well as drum brakes.

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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: Electric cars
« Last post by culzean on Today at 03:19:12 PM »
This morning in Gloucestershire thick fog. My Jazz dipped headlights, intermittent wipers and no I didn't use rear fog as a Nissan Leaf was close behind. I saw 3 Nissan Leafs in the 17 mile journey, none had lights on apart from the daytime running lights so no rear lights. The leaf following me had an invisible driver, he did one wipe in 10 miles (that I could see) and disappeared from view behind the buildup of moisture on his windscreen. I confess I was unnerved, the only saving grace was the front car in a series of about 10 (convoy) was only doing about 30mph. I understand battery saving but these EV drivers are acting in a very irresponsible manner not using lights in fog.

I have noticed a few Nissan Leaf driving around slowly (slowest was 35 in 60 limit main road, slower than the average tractor these days),  can't say I have noticed lack of lights though I have never seen one in fog (most people don't see things in fog, maybe I should look harder when it is foggy ).
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: My New MK3 Jazz
« Last post by andruec on Today at 12:20:30 PM »
I was not trying to be harsh to the manufacturers.  It is in their interest to put their product in the best light - look how far many have been prepared to go though.  Not running the engine when you have are stationary for an extended period makes sense but I doubt many would see a saving of 5-10% in the real world.  In a test like this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_European_Driving_Cycle it is not that surprising as more than 10% of the ECE-15 (urban) test is spent at idle (i.e. stopped).
That's true although I note this from the article:
"The cycle must be performed on a cold vehicle at 2030 C (typically run at 25 C)"
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" Total duration is 780 s (13 minutes)" for Urban and "6 minutes" for Extra Urban.

So the I/S won't be working for probably the first half of the first test and likely not at all for the second test. Even yesterday with my car sat in the sun all day with 24 degrees when I drove home the I/S wasn't working for the first ~5m.
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You make some very good points I just think we have a slightly different opinion on this one  ;)
Oh aye, no offence meant :)
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: My New MK3 Jazz
« Last post by andruec on Today at 12:14:01 PM »
Some good responses. Grateful for the advice about coming to a stop - obvious really! I agree that, as you get used to the system, you can finesse your pressure on the brake pedal especially at roundabouts and, in time, get quite good at not triggering the idle stop in these situations.
Yeah, I quite like it for that reason. I enjoy driving and for me controlling I/S is another skill to develop. I'm also very much into efficient driving so it adds to the challenge. Stopping only when absolutely necessary and never for less than five seconds :)

But for someone just wanting to get from A to B I can imagine it being a nuisance. On those rare occasions when it has switched the engine off just when I want to accelerate it's very shocking and frustrating. In a more powerful car it could be dangerous as well if you are trying to leap into a gap. Luckily the Jazz CVT doesn't do jack rabbit starts anyway (presumably protecting the belt) so if the car refuses to move when you jab the accelerator it's unlikely to leave you stranded.
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As regards engine wear, I realise these systems are relatively new but is there any evidence of premature wear. The battery and the starter are uprated and not all the oil will have drained back down into the sump - there will still be a protective covering - it's not like starting from cold every time.
No idea. I will say that I can't see any difference in the battery after two years either.
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For me, the CO2 stuff is secondary (we need to reduce CO2 but these systems are not a game changer), the real impact is in emissions at pavement level so I think they have a role to play in improving air quality.
Agreed. A few %ge points less fuel consumption ain't going to change the world but if cars didn't run their engines while stationary in queues the air in towns would be a bit cleaner. Although I believe that even when I/S starts it still emits a little puff of extra pollution so it's not perfect.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: My New MK3 Jazz
« Last post by t5nel on Today at 12:06:34 PM »
It's a bit of both. There have been several independent studies that suggest idle stop typically reduces overall fuel consumption between 5% and 10% depending on the vehicle and the type of driving. As far as the cost of recharging the battery is concerned that is minimal. Don't forget that the engine starts within a quarter of a second so the starter motor barely nudges the engine. The same studies typically suggest that the engine only has to be off for two to three seconds for stopping it to be worthwhile. Or put another way - three seconds of idling burns as much fuel as it takes to replace the battery charge lost by idle restart.

I'm not sure about it being fair to be harsh with manufacturers. I've now found a few articles that suggest that idling and stopping aren't that big a part of the testing so an I/S system doesn't sound like it would have much effect. But either way I wouldn't call it gaming the system since it's a pretty obvious feature. Overall is I/S worth it to us as drivers? I dunno. Given the extra cost of R&D and manufacturing costs I bet there's not a lot in it. But having bought a car with I/S it seems silly not to utilise it. Even if the end result is a greater cost to us at least using it will reduce that cost.


I was not trying to be harsh to the manufacturers.  It is in their interest to put their product in the best light - look how far many have been prepared to go though.  Not running the engine when you have are stationary for an extended period makes sense but I doubt many would see a saving of 5-10% in the real world.  In a test like this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_European_Driving_Cycle it is not that surprising as more than 10% of the ECE-15 (urban) test is spent at idle (i.e. stopped).

You make some very good points I just think we have a slightly different opinion on this one  ;)
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