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Title: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest1272 on June 02, 2013, 08:03:59 PM
OK, so here we go with another mod:

http://www.youtube.com/v/eZJvvInTSZc?hl=en_GB&version=3

The beauty of it is, that most of the wiring points can be found at the under dash fuse box. Simply wrap the wire around the right hand side (the protected side) of the fuse and it ends up protecting the module and being easy to wire up (the module's wires are in bold - refer to the module wiring picture to see a diagram - refer to the piccie of the fusebox layout to understand the fuses used):

(http://i.imgur.com/Rm4cX2T.png)
(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/3600/img0127go.jpg)

Ground (Black) = into screw that holds the fuse box in place (check it's grounded first, the big silver ones that hold the whole fusebox into place are even though they look like they're screwing into polystyrene).
Perm +ve (Red) = into fuse 43
Acc +ve (Yellow) = into fuse 15
Door Unlock signal pulse (Green) = into fuse 49 (this fuse shows a 12V pulse on door unlock)
Door Lock signal pulse (Blue) = into fuse 35 (this fuse shows a 12V pulse on door lock)

...and the only wires you need to cut are the 2 yellow and grey ones going to and from the manual button (leaving 4 wire "ends"):
Cut the yellow (extend) and grey (retract) wires to the button:
(button side) yellow extend = to manual switch on input on module (Grey)
(button side) grey retract= to manual switch off input on module (White)
(car side) yellow extend= to output for open on module (Brown)
(car side) grey retract= to output for close on module (Orange)

...and that's it. Modules are the 9 wire ones from eBay (all about £20-£30). Type "auto fold mirror module" into eBay and choose a Universal one. It will have it's own 15A fuse as well. I got one like this:
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3167/kgrhqjhjeefelhoiifbrjlr.jpg)

Took about a couple of hours to wire in correctly as I was checking everything with a multimeter as I went, but you could install it in less time once you know what to put where.

Also, the actual manual button still works as it should as the system gets disabled when the car is running (so you can still manually fold them in to squeeze into tight parking spaces and not worry about them extended automatically when you return to the car because you have pushed in the button (to retract) which has also disabled the system).

Overall very cheap and quick to install  ;).
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest3824 on June 02, 2013, 08:09:34 PM
Kinell lad, you do some boss mods on your car. I look on with envy.

Looks superb
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: jazzster on June 02, 2013, 08:47:50 PM
Like that mod might have a go myself, I always forget to fold them, this lets me fold them as I go in my garage tight space.
just looked on eBay did you get yours from China cant seem to find them in the UK, never bought from China before do you have to pay anything to customs
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest3824 on June 02, 2013, 09:04:57 PM
Like that mod might have a go myself, I always forget to fold them, this lets me fold them as I go in my garage tight space.
just looked on eBay did you get yours from China cant seem to find them in the UK, never bought from China before do you have to pay anything to customs
customs duties only due for goods over c. £20. Just ask the seller to mark as gift and Mark the value as $25 and you'll be sound.

I wish I was more technically able. Fitting wind deflectors and replacing the gearknob is about my limit of hands on ability.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: jazzster on June 02, 2013, 10:18:57 PM
Gaffer,
 just been out to look at fuse box, how did you connect the wire from the switch, does the switch come out or did you find the wire lower down.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: monkeydave on June 03, 2013, 01:26:17 AM
i would be a bit worried about that when it has been raining and frozen solid, my manual mirrors were very stiff and frozen when i unfolded them last winter and i would hate to think of the stress of an electric motor doing that every time
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest1272 on June 03, 2013, 03:24:03 PM
Thanks guys :)

No customs for me, £23 for the module delivered from China.

Re: fuses, anything requiring them, simply wrap the end of the wire around one of the blades of the fuse and push it back into socket. It will be a tiny bit harder to push in but should go in ok.

For my car (which didn't have DRLs) I simply used the empty socket at fuse 15 and added my own 5A fuse there to supply me with Acc +ve. I did this way back when I added the fake alarm LED. I then added to it, so now it provides me with Acc 12v for the alarm LED, my DRLs and this new auto foldong circuit - all low power and all with nil problems (so basically, if you don't have a fuse in position 15, you may have to add your own like I did).

Re: switch - you do not need to remove it at all. Simply pull out the panel below where the headlight adjustment is, then reach up from behind (ooh er) and unplug the wiring harness from behind.
There are a few of wires here because it is also the mirror control, but just find the yellow and grey ones. You may need to remove some of the trunking around it (which is only taped in place). Once done, cut the yellow and grey wires and you'll end up with 4 wire ends, yellow and grey "button side" and yellow and grey "engine side". Connect them up as mentioned above.
I didn't even solder mine together as I wanted the option of reversing it easily if I wanted to - all I did was strip 1/2cm or so from the ends and twist them together with the module wires before taping them up with insulation tape. The module wires are plenty long enough to reach.
In fact, there's so much wire that you can finish by neatly tucking the module and its fuse behind the plastic panel that the fusebox diagram is printed on.

I thought about the risk of frozen wing mirrors myself but seeing as I habitually de-ice most of the time, I just need to remember to do the same for the side mirrors. Plus (I haven't tested this) but apparently the system deactivates if it detects increased strain in the circuit (like continued activations or high resistence). Again, I haven't tested this myself so I'll just have to be more mindful in cold weather.
Alternatively, you can manually deactivate the system by pressing the normal switch (i.e. press as if you wanted to fold them in yourself and you deactivate the circuit - the circuit only works if that manual switch is on) ...so I could just deactivate it in the winter...


EDIT: Just to clarify ...

Car running regardless of switch position = module deactivated (meaning you retain full manual control when driving/parking)

Car off but manual switch off = again, module deactivated (e.g. can do this in winter if worried about ice)

Car off and manual switch on = ONLY time module does anything (so making sure manual switch is on and then getting out of the car (engine off) and it does its auto fold/unfold thing with door lock/unlock)



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Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest1272 on June 03, 2013, 09:15:23 PM
^^^ Or, put another way, make sure the switch is on "extend" intially. When you go to the car and unlock it, the wing mirrors will fold out.
When you start the car, the module deactivates.
Whilst driving, if you decide to fold in the mirrors, simply press the button as normal. The system will behave just as it did when stock because the car is on and running.
So if you want to park in a narrow gap, press the button to fold the wing mirrors in as you would normally.
Now get parked up, stop the engine and get out of the car. The beauty of the system is that because you have manually folded the mirrors in with the engine running, you have effectively manually disabled the module so not only will you be able to lock the car with no mirror change but you'll be able to unlock it and get in without the wing mirrors auto-folding out (because you disabled it manually when parking), thus avoiding damage to the mirrors in the tight space you've manoeuvered into.
Now start the car, drive into the open and manually extend the mirrors as normal.
NOW when you stop the car after the end of your journey, it will be off but you've just rearmed the module by manually extending the mirrors, so this time when you lock the car they WILL auto-fold in.

Remember:
Engine ON, Button on Retract = Module disarmed
Engine ON, Button on Extend = Module disarmed
Engine OFF, Button on Retract = Module disarmed
Engine OFF, Button on Extend = Module ARMED
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: jazzster on June 08, 2013, 12:51:11 AM
ordered module from eBay the other day don't know how long it will take to come, then I just got to fix it in.
Bought 2 * 2 pin connectors so I can  fit them on the folding switch wires then if I sell it or take it in for any warranty work, I can just unplug the module then plug original wires back together, also got some piggy back fuse connectors so I haven't got the wire wrapped around the fuses and hopefully will look neater, might check the piggy back fuses fit ok tomorrow.
Also saw a module for automatic closing of electric windows but not sure if it would work with any other than the auto closing driver side one, plus lots of wiring in.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: Rory on June 08, 2013, 10:17:40 PM
Like that mod might have a go myself, I always forget to fold them, this lets me fold them as I go in my garage tight space.
just looked on eBay did you get yours from China cant seem to find them in the UK, never bought from China before do you have to pay anything to customs
Like that mod might have a go myself, I always forget to fold them,

When I use our Jazz I often seem to park kerbside so need the miiror to check it's OK to exit the car so it's a real pain they don't auto fold.  Mind you, my Merc is the same - MB have chopped and changed whether they auto fold or not over the years.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: jazzster on June 12, 2013, 01:34:39 PM
came today 6 days delivery from china is good.
Fitted slightly different with permanent wire to fuse 4 as not enough room for my piggyback fuses on 43.
Seems I got the switch wires mixed up somewhere need to check as the car mirror button works opposite way round. folds mirrors in unfolded position , but remote works fine. will have a look when I have more time tomorrow.

It would be nice if I could find the wire that works the deadlocks as it would close mirrors only when deadlocks were activated, not only giving a indication they are deadlocked but saving the motors on the mirrors if just leaving few minutes.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: jazzster on June 12, 2013, 02:39:37 PM
Just swaped white and grey wires to switch round opposite to what you have and it now works fine.
Grey to grey and yellow to white now.
Thought it was switch end because everything else worked and checked wiring with diagram that come with box and seemed yo be wrong way to switch. happy now all ok
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest1272 on June 12, 2013, 03:49:15 PM
Excellent  :D, glad it worked. The deadlocks must have a fuse in the fusebox so maybe switching the "lock signal" wire from "fuse 35" to the deadlock fuse (which it think is "fuse 45" going by the owners manual - the Super Locking circuit).
Worth giving it a try if you want deadlock folding?
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: jazzster on June 13, 2013, 12:23:51 AM
think I tried fuse 45 and it was permanent live, need to check again may of got the wrong one.
just need to tidy wires up and fit the module somewhere, got it stuck on the cover below fuse box with Velcro at the moment, just need it to be removable if it ever needs warranty work done.

So second mod done, first was change wipers to flat blades, might do the rear wiper mod when warranty runs out, just to stop the dirt collecting on it. Don't know of anything else other that radio but think it would cost to much and not get much benefit.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest4621 on April 05, 2014, 06:31:26 PM
Cheers Gaffer! Doesn't look too difficult to wire up..

Can anyone confirm if this is the right or is a similar unit?

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=141021979987&globalID=EBAY-GB


Just want to double check before I order! Thank you!
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest1272 on April 21, 2014, 01:33:50 PM
Yep, that looks like the same one I bought. 9 wires in total (4 for splicing into the manual button, 2 for door lock/unlock input, perm positive, acc positive, earth).
From the description, it works the same way too (auto-fold on door lock, auto cut-off if too high a load etc)


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Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest4621 on April 22, 2014, 11:24:10 AM
Yep, that looks like the same one I bought. 9 wires in total (4 for splicing into the manual button, 2 for door lock/unlock input, perm positive, acc positive, earth).
From the description, it works the same way too (auto-fold on door lock, auto cut-off if too high a load etc)

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Thank you very much Gaffer - I've just ordered now. Saves me keep pressing the button every time I park. I have a habit of leaving the car unlocked / checking if it is unlocked.... Hopefully I'll be able to tell by the mirrors when this is fitted.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest5905 on January 29, 2016, 01:17:39 AM
Has anyone done this to the new 2015-16 shape jazz? or the 2005 one too?
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: jazzster on March 14, 2016, 12:07:33 PM
After coming back to a Jazz, I have installed the folding mirrors in my new one . Seemed to be hard work this time the mirror wire was awkward to get at very short when disconnected , may be because I was fitter last time. but seems to work OK. I had to get a new module as i cant find the old one found the wires but not the box, but only Just under £7 this time so not too bad.. Got a front and rear camera fitted also, wish i had the ES plus not the EX because the wiper sensor is in the way so I had to have the camera lower than I would of liked.
Not connected to auto open it unfolds with the ignition. so if Im just opening the car to get something out its not not constantly folding and unfolding

(its a 15 plate Mk2, just a year old the other day, with 3500 miles when I had a month ago)
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: fatlad on June 11, 2016, 01:33:44 PM
OK, so here we go with another mod:

http://www.youtube.com/v/eZJvvInTSZc?hl=en_GB&version=3

The beauty of it is, that most of the wiring points can be found at the under dash fuse box. Simply wrap the wire around the right hand side (the protected side) of the fuse and it ends up protecting the module and being easy to wire up (the module's wires are in bold - refer to the module wiring picture to see a diagram - refer to the piccie of the fusebox layout to understand the fuses used):

(http://i.imgur.com/Rm4cX2T.png)
(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/3600/img0127go.jpg)

Ground (Black) = into screw that holds the fuse box in place (check it's grounded first, the big silver ones that hold the whole fusebox into place are even though they look like they're screwing into polystyrene).
Perm +ve (Red) = into fuse 43
Acc +ve (Yellow) = into fuse 15
Door Unlock signal pulse (Green) = into fuse 49 (this fuse shows a 12V pulse on door unlock)
Door Lock signal pulse (Blue) = into fuse 35 (this fuse shows a 12V pulse on door lock)

...and the only wires you need to cut are the 2 yellow and grey ones going to and from the manual button (leaving 4 wire "ends"):
Cut the yellow (extend) and grey (retract) wires to the button:
(button side) yellow extend = to manual switch on input on module (Grey)
(button side) grey retract= to manual switch off input on module (White)
(car side) yellow extend= to output for open on module (Brown)
(car side) grey retract= to output for close on module (Orange)

...and that's it. Modules are the 9 wire ones from eBay (all about £20-£30). Type "auto fold mirror module" into eBay and choose a Universal one. It will have it's own 15A fuse as well. I got one like this:
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3167/kgrhqjhjeefelhoiifbrjlr.jpg)

Took about a couple of hours to wire in correctly as I was checking everything with a multimeter as I went, but you could install it in less time once you know what to put where.

Also, the actual manual button still works as it should as the system gets disabled when the car is running (so you can still manually fold them in to squeeze into tight parking spaces and not worry about them extended automatically when you return to the car because you have pushed in the button (to retract) which has also disabled the system).

Overall very cheap and quick to install  ;).

***************************************
does the motors for the mirrors come with the kit?
where & how do they fit?
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest1372 on June 11, 2016, 01:51:39 PM
does the motors for the mirrors come with the kit?
where & how do they fit?
No motors supplied.
If you have normal switch operated folding mirrors, this kit will also make them fold when using the remote locking.
--
TG
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest6185 on June 22, 2016, 10:24:00 PM
I am really interested in this and have already ordered my "Intelligent Auto Side Rearview Rear View Mirror Folding System" on fleabay, £6.62

I have seen several posts, including the ones on this thread, on it being fitted fairly easily into the fusebox under the dash.  Problem is, I have the 2016 (MkIII model?) where the fusebox is under the bonnet at the front nearside and try as I might, I can find no instructions on how to fit/wire to the new model.  I really do not want to have to start taking the car apart to install this and hope it'll be a simple(ish) quick(ish) fix.  Can anyone help?  Has anyone installed auto folding mirrors kit to the new 2016 Jazz?  Or can anyone help with a copy of a circuit diagram of the fusebox/mirrors with wiring colour codes?

Any help would be much appreciated.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest1372 on June 23, 2016, 08:31:59 AM
I really do not want to have to start taking the car apart to install this and hope it'll be a simple(ish) quick(ish) fix.  Can anyone help?  Has anyone installed auto folding mirrors kit to the new 2016 Jazz?
Maybe ask in the Mk3 forum?
There is usually a dual purpose junction / fuse box under the dash  (http://www.manualslib.com/manual/961176/Honda-2016-Fit.html?page=7#manual)in modern cars to provide a location to interconnect the various wiring looms probably hidden with a clip on cover. 
This 2016 US Fit manual shows interior fuse box A & B on pages 424 > 425 beneath the driver's dash. 
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/961176/Honda-2016-Fit.html?page=424 (http://www.manualslib.com/manual/961176/Honda-2016-Fit.html?page=424)

The Mk 2 Jazz will do this for you anyway if you follow the right sequence.
Before you switch engine off press mirror fold button and mirrors fold in.
Switch  engine off- key in position 1 and press mirror fold switch again , then remove key.
When you next start the engine the mirrors will unfold as soon as you start the engine.

Very clever these Hondas !   
If this function is carried over to the Mk3 then half the job is done already.
--
TG
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest6185 on June 23, 2016, 09:11:40 PM
Double checked and deffo no fuse box anywhere under the dash either side of the car.

And yes, I already do carry out that "function", when I remember.  But that's not the reason I (and others I've read about) want auto folding mirrors.  My last car had auto folding mirrors and it's a sorely missed feature.  But the main point being, you can just glance at the car, see the mirrors are folded and know instantly the car is locked and that you haven't forgotten to lock it.  It's not possible to check it's locked by trying to open the driver door after locking as it instantly unlocks again just by touching the door handle.  You'd have to try the rear door to check.  Pain in the anus.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest5079 on June 26, 2016, 03:12:29 PM
I personally think the tip from TG about pressing the switch when the key  is in position 1is excellent. It's a jolly sight easier than going through the problem of interfering with the wiring.
Now I have got into the habit, I think it's brilliant.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest6185 on June 26, 2016, 03:42:46 PM
I personally think the tip from TG about pressing the switch when the key  is in position 1is excellent.

I do agree and it's something I already discovered and perform now but as I explained, the reason why I, and others like me want it, is it provides confirmation from a distance that you've remembered to lock the car.   :)

A case of ETTO I guess.  I will have a go at the wiring, being an electronics engineer, that doesn't bother me.  Once it's done, it's done and you can be sure it'll be a tidy and concealed affair.   ;)
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: amghosted on September 29, 2017, 08:57:22 PM
Hi All,

I know this is an old post but having just bought the Jazz for my wife, i'm getting fed up when I or she keep forgetting to fold the mirrors in using the switch on the dash.

Having read the thread I have purchased one of the folding mirror kits (less than £9 now) and also some fuse piggy back adapters (£4 for 4) so I have everything ready and just need to install the unit.

However I have a couple of questions;

1. Is it still necessary to disconnect the battery ?
2. How do you pull out the Mirror position/fold extract plug connector? is there a technique ?

I've tried pulling on the plug and wires (not wanting to pull them out of their pins) but I'm having great difficulty in getting the connector out, does it have any clips?

Many thanks

Gary
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: Jocko on September 29, 2017, 09:16:45 PM
Most plugs have some sort of retainer. Sometimes it is a small ramp that snaps into a hole in the side. Occasionally you have to use a small blade to loosen it. What the particular plug you are trying to release has, I cannot tell, but you are right to be careful not to pull the wires out.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: amghosted on September 30, 2017, 11:38:26 AM
Thanks,

Maybe I'll try and stick my phone in the gap and take a photo as it'll give me a better idea of what type of plug it is and how it is retained.

Cheers

G
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: jazzster on September 30, 2017, 10:28:09 PM
it has a tab that needs to be squeezed in, cant remember which side it is on but you may be able to feel it, if i remember correctly the plug is square
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: amghosted on October 02, 2017, 12:31:05 PM
Hi Jazzter

Many thanks for that tip, you're correct its a plastic tab which is part of the connector that you push in and then pull the body of the connector to get it out, easy when you know how. It can just be seen in the photo

Now I have the connector and cable loose, they don't leave much spare cable for you cut and crimp the new cables too. I was hoping the cable would protrude through the opening but looks like you have to manage to re-crimp inside the opening.

It looks like I'm almost ready to wire it all up, just need to find a day when I'm happy to spend an hour on my knees!

Thanks

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Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: amghosted on October 09, 2017, 04:55:28 PM
Hi All,

Finally got around to fitting the closing door module, so many thanks to everyone that has help contribute to this diy as it has made it much easier to install.

Pretty impressed with the module, all in all with the module, couple of Molex plugs and sockets, fuse piggy backs, it came to around £15 all in and a couple of hours fiddling about etc well worth the effort,

Cheers

Gary
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest6185 on October 09, 2017, 06:18:13 PM
Nice one! Care to share further details for the benefit of anyone coming across this?
Actual link to the module, parts used, wiring diagram, wire colours used/cut and location, fuse box numbers etc?    :-)
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: amghosted on October 10, 2017, 03:23:36 PM
Hi

The first post in this DIY explains all on how to install the mirror module and the fuses to use etc. The main difference was that like someone else I also used the fuse piggy back adapters so not to have to wrap wire around a fuse.

Here's the link to the module that I purchased and it's installation diagram is the same as the one in the first post.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intelligent-Car-Side-Rear-View-Mirror-Module-Auto-Closer-System-by-ACC-211-UK/262754402471?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Here's the link to the 4 piggy back connectors
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4Pcs-Add-a-Circuit-Fuse-Tap-Micro-Auto-Mini-Blade-Piggy-Back-Fuse-Holder-10A/272728478477?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

I tried to take a photo after the install but it's not that clear but I've attached it anyway. All it really shows is the four piggy back connectors in the fuse block, the module has a double sided sticky pad and so that has been attached to the left side of the opening access panel, haven't driven the car since I instlled it so I dont know if the cables will rattle or not so I have a tyewrap ready just in case. Remember I already had a few Molex connectors which were used on the cut wires Yellow and Grey which means the item can be removed if it caused issues.

Cheers

Gary

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Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: Rhysfjf on January 08, 2018, 03:42:31 PM
Would like to say a massive thanks to Gaffer for writing this guide up!

I hope you don't mind me adding my 10 cents to this as I approached my install a little bit differently.

I ordered an identical module from eBay for less than £7, all the instructions were in Chinese so again massive thanks to Gaffer for the write up, I followed the wiring exactly as it's written.

For me though, I decided like some others that I would buy some piggy back fuses to make installing the wires onto the fuse box a little easier/tidier. I also bought a box of wiring terminals from a pound shop and crimped on a circle terminal onto the black ground wire so I could attach it to the ground bolt. I also crimped two male and two female spade clips onto the module, and another two male and two female onto the car wires that you have to cut, so if for whatever reason I decided to remove the module it's just a case of connected the wires back together using the terminals to go back to stock - the pictures should make more sense.

Here's what I started out with....

(https://i.imgur.com/IHASqB7.jpg)

Here's what I ended up with once I finished adding the terminals and piggy backs...

(https://i.imgur.com/4I86LKA.jpg)

Here is the switch from the back of the mirror fold button with the wires cut and two terminals crimped on...

(https://i.imgur.com/Ko86dRN.jpg)

And finally here's a picture of the fuse box with all the piggy backs added. Note one of the 5 in the picture is for my dashcam.

(https://i.imgur.com/bF3Ccgw.jpg)

When you remove the original fuse from the fuse box it's important to add it back into the piggyback, these accommodate two fuses, the original and one for the new item you're installing, in this case the mirror fold module.

If you don't add the original fuse then the function won't work - I found this out when I broke one of the fuses and didn't replace it, the indicator bulbs didn't flash upon locking/unlocking the car, luckily I had spares and it solved the issue.. morale of the story, don't be lazy  ;D
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest6185 on January 11, 2018, 04:58:03 PM
Nice one, Rhysfjf.  I'm guessing that's not the 2016 Mk IV model?  The mirror switch is on the arm-rest in the door panel.  I never did get round to doing mine because of that.  Tempted to have another look at this one day.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: Rhysfjf on January 12, 2018, 12:12:23 PM
Nice one, Rhysfjf.  I'm guessing that's not the 2016 Mk IV model?  The mirror switch is on the arm-rest in the door panel.  I never did get round to doing mine because of that.  Tempted to have another look at this one day.

Afraid not, it was on a 2013 Si model, I'm attempting to help a friend install one on his CR-Z which we hope should be the same process. I'm sure it would be possible on the newer one, might be a bit more of a ball ache running the wires, may even have to extend them? Is the fuse box in the same place on the new Jazz?
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest6185 on January 12, 2018, 02:30:06 PM
I'm sure it would be possible on the newer one, might be a bit more of a ball ache running the wires, may even have to extend them? Is the fuse box in the same place on the new Jazz?

Yes, I think so. (Never actually seen older models to compare)  Although the layout is different and I seem to recall having a problem finding the required mirror/doorlock activation live points.
I did attempt to install it in the door paneling, or rather, inside the "arm-rest" bit where the controls, including the mirror switch, sits. But the problem I found was locating the necessary wiring without, like you say, having to run wires through which I really don't want to do since the car is on PCP Finance and so would be returned eventually.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: guest7801 on July 11, 2018, 01:18:21 PM
Just done this mod to my 2014 Si.

I also had to swap the grey and white wires round at the switch but apart from that it works fine.

You can find it on instagram username is frogeyes surprisingly enough  ;)
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: Tenbapps on January 18, 2020, 07:10:05 PM
I intend to go in on this tomorrow, weather permitting - just need to check one thing:

In the first post from Gaffer, he mentions using one of the big silver bolts that look like they go into polystyrene as an earthing point - on page 3 of this thread the third picture from Rhysfjf where he shows the spade connectors on the back of the mirror switch, there is just that very thing in the background - a big silver bolt going into polystyrene.

Is that the earthing point to use then?
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: dbjazz on June 10, 2020, 08:02:32 PM
No I think you need the smaller  screw in the earlier image, in amghosted's post: https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4896.0;attach=4361;image
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: dbjazz on June 11, 2020, 01:21:06 AM
I'm trying to fit this to a Mk1 Jazz - 2007.  The mirror control switch looks very similar (although different colour wires) _ I think I have identified the two to cut.  However the fusebox is completely different, only 28 or so fuses in total.

Has anyone done this?  If not can anyone identify these 4 fuses in the Mk2 (i.e. tell me what they are for rather than just the number):

"Perm +ve (Red) = into fuse 43
Acc +ve (Yellow) = into fuse 15
Door Unlock signal pulse (Green) = into fuse 49 (this fuse shows a 12V pulse on door unlock)
Door Lock signal pulse (Blue) = into fuse 35 (this fuse shows a 12V pulse on door lock)"


Alternatively is there a fuse list for the Mk2? 

I have a feeling none of the mk1 fuses will give a pulse on lock or unlock so I''l have to find a wire to the lock solenoids.  I have the Haynes wiring diagram for the Mk1 which isn't very helpful.

 Any help appreciated.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: dbjazz on March 17, 2021, 12:05:14 AM
I gave up on this.
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: DelBoy13 on October 12, 2022, 12:18:06 PM
Help I've just done this now it says check system error and my car won't start
If anyone could help I'd be most appreciated.
Thank you
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: Arwahabibi on October 12, 2022, 07:18:48 PM
Hello everyone and thank you for this tutorial.

I carefully analyzed the contents for my left-hand drive 2009 Jazz GG3.
Following the workshop manual for my vehicle.
The green door release wire is located in fuse 50
And the blue wire in fuse 36 because the passenger and driver side are forced to reverse.
My fuse 43 (7.5A)i s the air conditioning compressor clutch.
Could I take the cigarette lighter. fuse 13 (20A) or Audio unit, cargo area light, dome light
fuse 1 (10A)?

Thanks for any help
Title: Re: Auto-Folding Side Mirrors on the Jazz
Post by: Arwahabibi on October 19, 2022, 11:10:30 PM
I answer myself to leave a trace, if you have a left-hand drive jazz....
Follow the tutorial but The green door release wire is fuse 50
And the blue wire in fuse 36.
Use a multimeter to test the free slots in the fuse box for you if you have permanent 12v, in my case it's a 45 fuse... It's best to use fast lugs or solder if you can.