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Title: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: guest7292 on December 15, 2017, 01:12:33 PM
I think I would add another engine maybe the 1.0 civic engine and leather upholstery in black, grey and beige, introduce a Sporty model with Type R style upgrades.
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: trebor1652 on December 15, 2017, 01:15:40 PM
Strictly speaking it's a face lifted mk3 not a MK4.

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Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: guest7292 on December 15, 2017, 03:06:41 PM
In Honda's eyes there's nothing up with the Jazz, and as people say if it isn't broke don't fix it.
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: andruec on December 15, 2017, 03:19:23 PM
* Either get rid of the Atkinson cycle or improve the programming on the CVT so that we don't have the pseudo 'turbo lag' at low revs.
* Have another go at producing a decent infotainment unit. Start with a modern version of Android. If the operator chooses not to click the 'Ok' button then at least leave the damn' clock visible.
* LED headlights with main beam shadowing like Mercedes and Audi have.
* Bring back the two tier boot arrangement.
* Bring back the old auto wipers mechanism. It didn't have false positives in cold weather and didn't seem to need frequent speed adjustments.
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: peteo48 on December 15, 2017, 03:37:43 PM
They should have a hybrid option.
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: andruec on December 15, 2017, 06:29:49 PM
They should have a hybrid option.
There's one now but it's not particularly exciting. To be honest I have kind of said to myself that my next car should have some form of alternative fuel power train. So I'll add my vote along those lines.
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: Jocko on December 15, 2017, 07:05:32 PM
Full EV for me!
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: Skyrider on December 15, 2017, 08:05:32 PM
Full EV for me!

Totally useless for travelling any distance. OK if you only want a shopping trolley.
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: peteo48 on December 15, 2017, 08:08:23 PM
Unless you can afford a Tesla!
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: Pumpkin on December 15, 2017, 08:40:22 PM
I'd like cargo nets in the boot like the MK2, and a radio with buttons instead of a touch screen.
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: culzean on December 15, 2017, 09:09:19 PM
Unless you can afford a Tesla!

Even if you can afford one they can't deliver one.
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: Jocko on December 15, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Full EV for me!

Totally useless for travelling any distance. OK if you only want a shopping trolley.
It would be perfect for me.
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: Jocko on December 15, 2017, 09:49:22 PM
Unless you can afford a Tesla!

Even if you can afford one they can't deliver one.
Tesla Model S is readily available in the UK. Loads on 14 day delivery.
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: culzean on December 15, 2017, 10:38:20 PM
Unless you can afford a Tesla!

Even if you can afford one they can't deliver one.
Tesla Model S is readily available in the UK. Loads on 14 day delivery.

If you have £60 to 90 + grand to spare, and still get EV subsidy paid for by taxpayers who maybe can't afford a car, how lovely.....

I actually wanted a model 3 but was quoted 48 months delivery....
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: Jocko on December 16, 2017, 09:11:22 AM
I just feel Honda should offer an EV and the Jazz would be the best candidate.
Currently, the likes of BMW, Chevrolet, Citroen, FIAT, Ford, Hyundai, Kia, Mercedes Benz, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Peugeot, Renault and Volkswagen feel that an EV in their range is the way to go.
Honda had a short lived foray with the EV when the offered an EV Fit, on lease, in Japan and parts of the US back in 2013-14. Technology, infrastructure and customer base has improved considerably in the interim, and I would like to see them join the marketplace.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Honda_Fit_EV_engine_%28blue%29.jpg/1920px-Honda_Fit_EV_engine_%28blue%29.jpg)
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: culzean on December 16, 2017, 10:12:45 AM
Honda had hydrogen fool cell (sorry fuel cell ) cars way back with Clarity,  they were also making a battery EV in 1997.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_EV_Plus

Anyone else think their latest concept EV looks like old Golf GTi ??

http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/16365/honda-claims-its-electric-cars-will-charge-in-15-minutes-by-2022

It will be easy for conventional car makers to introduce a BEV - they already have the supply chain and skills to produce mind blowing numbers of vehicles per year (unlike some newcomers).   BEV are simpler to make than conventional cars and they will be able to buy improved motors, control systems and batteries 'off the shelf' once others have thrown money at them and made huge losses in the meantime.  There are lots of older Nissan Leafs around that have suffered banana republic rates of depreciation for people who just need a shopping trolley. 

Given the present rate progress in the technology the early adopters have suffered from built in obsolescence on a grand scale,  as well as a lack of infrastructure.

IMHO the real money may be made by people who supply the electrics and batteries - Panasonic,  Bosch, etc.


Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: olduser1 on December 16, 2017, 11:23:16 AM
4 wheel drive utility option as in Japan
>then remove all the electric adds on
>build in weight saving
>single colour option grey
>washable seats for dogs & dirt
> Oh and offer at 0% over 3 years or cash of £8995.00
Anyone joining the queque
Title: Re: What would you change for the MK4 JAZZ?
Post by: John Ratsey on December 16, 2017, 06:19:55 PM
I would like to see the return of the hybrid Jazz with more powerful motor and higher capacity battery than the Mk 2 hybrid. Honda already sell a hybrid Mk 3 Jazz in other parts of the world but sales of the Mk 2 hybrid in Europe were limited, probably because the the price premium too high and battery capacity too low to give much benefit except in stop-start driving conditions. The motor in a hybrid also compensates for the performance limitations of the Atkinson cycle while keeping the extra economy.