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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Route “avoiding toll roads” on Sat Nav.
« Last post by davejazz on Today at 05:03:47 PM »On my previous handheld satnav, when routing, I was able to select an option of “avoid toll roads”.
Is it possible to do this, on the inbuilt, Garmin unit?
I could find no reference to this, in the instruction book.
Is it possible to do this, on the inbuilt, Garmin unit?
I could find no reference to this, in the instruction book.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Jinbeizame on Today at 04:56:12 PM »This is in my opinion the standard practice in motor industry. They choose the market whether product recall is really needed. In my long motoring life (spanning 65 years) I would like to say European manufacturers are worse than Japanese. They seem to ignore many design faults or manufacturing faults up until Government involvement has rarely forced them to do the right thing. Modern cars are designed heavily computer biased, I always drive with this in mind. Modern driver assist functions (auto cruise, etc) are typical examples, no matter how fail-safe system is built-in. Drive safe!!!
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Spodric on Today at 04:50:47 PM »My Honda Jazz, bought in Feb 2021, has developed this fault. Being a Japanese person I can check this issue in various Japanese sites (official Honda HP, etc), try to find out what's happening there. It appears Honda has issued same (or similar) product recall registered in Japan and China respectively with slightly different tones. In Japan, Honda issued the product recall relating to the failed Brake Operating Simulator involving 530K cars (across the latest models), made btwn 2/7/2018 and 15/9/2022, but in China Honda's recall sounds a little bit different (I think the same issue though). In Japan, the main culprit is identified as corroded Brake Operating Simulator where excess oil which spilled over the electronic component or contacts, resulting in a loss of signals. The oil mentioned here is applied in production process of the Simulator, not coming from outside the unit.
I have called the Honda Assistant only to be told my Jazz is out of warranty by 3 months, can't offer any help. I thought the Honda 5 year service plan of mine could help in any way but it became clear 5 year service plan is not same as 5 year warranty. Soon I will visit my Honda dealer driving my Jazz with reduced brake performance. I hope my right foot is still strong enough to control the car. By the way I also have another Honda car, 2022 HRV which use the same doomed Simulator. I learn Honda has suffered a series of bake issues involving mainly their K-cars in recent years. Do I look for elsewhere when buying a next car?
Hi. Sorry to read that you have suffered the same brake failure. Glad to hear that you are Japanese. Your input could be very valuable, because in my experience Honda UK and Honda Japan appear to be making inconsistent statements and decisions about the same brake failure problem.
My 5 year service plan document date 09 December 2020 is headed Honda 5 Year Care Package. You should check your document from Honda to see what it does in fact cover. Hopefully yours will be identical to mine. Your dealer service department should see that there is a 5 year warranty in place if they bother to check it properly on their computer. My dealer overlooked it and told me that the 3 year warranty had expired and quoted me the cost of the repair, until I reminded them that I had the 5 year warranty extension. Then they checked and admitted I was right.
My Honda 5 Year Care Package includes the 5 year Warranty and 5 year Hondacare Assistance. The Honda Administration Office that I contacted confirmed that the "repair" i.e. replacement of the failed brake simulation module would be covered by the Warranty, assuming that the dealer diagnosed this issue, which they did. The dealer obtained Honda's authorisation to carry out the repair under Warranty. The Hondacare Assistance is effectively AA Relay Plus, so there should be no need to risk driving your Jazz to the dealership without assisted braking. I arranged that the AA should tow mine to the dealership workshop, after the AA agent had confirmed that my Jazz couldn't be repaired at the roadside, and was not driveable.
Let us know if you in fact have the 5 year extended warranty. It doesn't surprise me that Honda UK isn't playing fair now that more of these brake simulator module failures are occurring. Yours is the 10th example on this thread. Don't let Honda UK fob you off and make you pay unnecessarily.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Power Window Failure
« Last post by tfw7 on Today at 04:41:17 PM »This reminds me of the time I told my garage that my rear windows would not open at all (this was on a previous car, Clio)
The mechanic very politely told me it was because I had engaged the child lock without realising....
The mechanic very politely told me it was because I had engaged the child lock without realising....
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Code maintenance notice
« Last post by tfw7 on Today at 04:38:52 PM »I wanted to ask @tfw7 can you list me step by step what items I need to click on the Honda UK website to find that maintenance manual?I did a google search "honda UK service codes"
Thanks for your help
which took me to https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/service-reminders.html
then I selected hybrid jazz
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Code maintenance notice
« Last post by Jazzist on Today at 03:44:21 PM »See under my photo 2021.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Kremmen on Today at 02:57:04 PM »Which just confuses me why some countries are being ignored
If Japan and China have a recall then why not global !!!!!
If Japan and China have a recall then why not global !!!!!
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Code maintenance notice
« Last post by Wonder on Today at 02:24:36 PM »Thanks for the info, at least it's not just me that needs to change the brake fluid.
How old is your car?
I wanted to ask @tfw7 can you list me step by step what items I need to click on the Honda UK website to find that maintenance manual?
Thanks for your help
How old is your car?
I wanted to ask @tfw7 can you list me step by step what items I need to click on the Honda UK website to find that maintenance manual?
Thanks for your help
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Power Window Failure
« Last post by Jinbeizame on Today at 01:43:55 PM »I am experiencing the same fault with my Jazz 2021 with 10K miles (16K km). Although all 3 door windows operate fine only the rear left fails. No noise nor vibration when pushing the button(s). As a last resort I managed to raise the glass by human hands, then never open it until the next service comes. This is a minor issue, but there is a looming major issue which I posted a short time ago relating to the Brake Operating Simulator of Honda HV cars. All modern cars are designed to be BIG computers, meaning even a small electronic component can/will fail without warning. Sometimes it can cause very serious consequences. Always drive this in mind.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Jinbeizame on Today at 12:59:32 PM »My Honda Jazz, bought in Feb 2021, has developed this fault. Being a Japanese person I can check this issue in various Japanese sites (official Honda HP, etc), try to find out what's happening there. It appears Honda has issued same (or similar) product recall registered in Japan and China respectively with slightly different tones. In Japan, Honda issued the product recall relating to the failed Brake Operating Simulator involving 530K cars (across the latest models), made btwn 2/7/2018 and 15/9/2022, but in China Honda's recall sounds a little bit different (I think the same issue though). In Japan, the main culprit is identified as corroded Brake Operating Simulator where excess oil which spilled over the electronic component or contacts, resulting in a loss of signals. The oil mentioned here is applied in production process of the Simulator, not coming from outside the unit.
I have called the Honda Assistant only to be told my Jazz is out of warranty by 3 months, can't offer any help. I thought the Honda 5 year service plan of mine could help in any way but it became clear 5 year service plan is not same as 5 year warranty. Soon I will visit my Honda dealer driving my Jazz with reduced brake performance. I hope my right foot is still strong enough to control the car. By the way I also have another Honda car, 2022 HRV which use the same doomed Simulator. I learn Honda has suffered a series of bake issues involving mainly their K-cars in recent years. Do I look for elsewhere when buying a next car?
I have called the Honda Assistant only to be told my Jazz is out of warranty by 3 months, can't offer any help. I thought the Honda 5 year service plan of mine could help in any way but it became clear 5 year service plan is not same as 5 year warranty. Soon I will visit my Honda dealer driving my Jazz with reduced brake performance. I hope my right foot is still strong enough to control the car. By the way I also have another Honda car, 2022 HRV which use the same doomed Simulator. I learn Honda has suffered a series of bake issues involving mainly their K-cars in recent years. Do I look for elsewhere when buying a next car?
