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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Flat as a fart
« Last post by John Ratsey on August 12, 2018, 12:50:25 PM »
50,000mls with full service history
Thanks. So there shouldn't be any very low mileage issues. However, I think we all agree that something isn't right. What's amiss is another matter. Plugs? And it might be prudent to look for evidence that the servicing was properly done.
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Flat as a fart
« Last post by philskynet on August 12, 2018, 12:35:25 PM »
50,000mls with full service history
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Problem of poor sensitivity of audio touch screen
« Last post by andruec on August 12, 2018, 12:12:35 PM »
@Culzean

The engine driven high pressure fuel pump on the 1.5 GDI (L15B3 engine as fitted to the Jazz)  is on the end of the exhaust camshaft under a foam rubber (sound deadening?) Cover. The same place as the vaccum pump is on the 1.3,  the 1.3 has a vaccum pump as the Atkinson cycle does not produce enough inlet manifold vaccum to operate the brake servo.

I will accept a virtual box of hen's teeth.  ;D

I read Jazz model GD1 (8 valve twinspark) rather than Gasoline direct injection - my fault should have read post properly,  anyway waiting for fuel gauge to settle before starting is harmless enough activity and hardly deserved abuse from certain members...
Who has been abusing you? Disagreeing and trying to enlighten someone is not abuse.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Problem of poor sensitivity of audio touch screen
« Last post by culzean on August 12, 2018, 12:10:42 PM »
@Culzean

The engine driven high pressure fuel pump on the 1.5 GDI (L15B3 engine as fitted to the Jazz)  is on the end of the exhaust camshaft under a foam rubber (sound deadening?) Cover. The same place as the vaccum pump is on the 1.3,  the 1.3 has a vaccum pump as the Atkinson cycle does not produce enough inlet manifold vaccum to operate the brake servo.

I will accept a virtual box of hen's teeth.  ;D

I read Jazz model GD1 (8 valve twinspark) rather than Gasoline direct injection - my fault should have read post properly,  anyway waiting for fuel gauge to settle before starting is harmless enough activity and hardly deserved abuse from certain members...

Engine driven vacuum pumps have always been fitted to diesels because they do not generate any vacuum in inlet manifold, and now same with atkinson cycle engines. Direct injection required very high fuel pressure to overcome compression in engine,  as the fuel is injected pretty much at top of piston stroke for maximum benefit and to avoid knocking with 15 or 16:1 CR common on direct injection petrol engines like Mazda Skyactive.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: bluetooth connectivity
« Last post by Jocko on August 12, 2018, 12:00:47 PM »
If I was in the market for a new car it would definitely not be a Honda Jazz. I have read so much on here about the problems experienced with the "tech" on these cars that I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. I enjoyed driving the one I had on loan for a day, but didn't have to do anything other than drive it. I didn't even turn on the radio.
I love my "no frills" Mk1, but it will probably be my last Jazz.
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Good and bad points
« Last post by Jocko on August 12, 2018, 11:53:36 AM »
Not so good - Climate control and accuracy of outside temperature reading
First world problems. If I want it warm I turn the heating up. If I want it cool I turn it down. And if I want to know the outside temperature I open the window and stick my nose out. The joys of owning the base model!
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Problem of poor sensitivity of audio touch screen
« Last post by andruec on August 12, 2018, 11:44:37 AM »
Has anyone asked Honda, why they insist on the requirement to confirm the safety notice every time you start the car?
You could try asking them but they'll probably just quote the manual back at you. That's what they did when I asked why auto stop on the CVT required me to keep the brake pedal pressed. Their answer was that releasing the brake pedal cancelled auto stop :-/
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I suppose it's another edict/regulation from the EU. Sooner we are out the better!!
Can't agree with you on that. A bad idea to start with and in danger of turning out to be a disaster that is neither one thing or the other. But this is not the time and place to discuss that.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: bluetooth connectivity
« Last post by andruec on August 12, 2018, 11:39:20 AM »
however I do find it amazing that a 8 month old current model phone is not compatible with a brand new state of the art Honda Jazz (or as Honda would have you believe).
I don't. The original infotainment unit runs on a version of Android (4.1 I think) that had been superseded at least a year previously. The facelifted Jazz might have a more recent version I suppose.
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Honda UK Help Desk are very good with their apologies but come back some days later with little or no solutions to the problems. Their only solution to date is that I buy two new phones (one for me and on for my wife).
Yup. Few of us who've had dealings with Honda UK have anything good to say about them. Not to say that Honda are bad but they are no better than any other manufacturer :-/
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The phone issues are only the tip of the iceberg, the car has been throwing up various spurious warnings with its driver safety aids (parking sensors, auto start stop, crash avoidance etc) it has been back to the dealer 5 or 6 times since mid June. Not what I would expect from Honda. I was initially told the issues I was having was due to the exceptionally high temperatures we were having, now it has cooled down things are much better.
That is bad. Those of us who bought an early version had to put up with a crashing and slow to boot infotainment unit but that's about all. Oh and some of us have had starting issues during winter (in my case possibly humidity related).
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Not a happy bunny as all my previous Hondas I have owned have been trouble free
Join the club. However speaking from experience it's hard to find an equivalent car for the same price. But yeah I've posted before that with my Mk1 an Mk2 I described myself as 'A Honda Jazz driver'. Now I merely describe myself as someone who drives a Honda Jazz.

My next car will probably be a Honda Jazz hybrid if/when it's ever released in the UK but only because it's the least bad car I can find for the money - and this time around I will be doing a lot of research to check out the competition. Something I didn't bother with for the previous two models.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: bluetooth connectivity
« Last post by ColinB on August 12, 2018, 11:22:30 AM »
Oh dear, what a depressing experience. There's another thread in the forum about the Mk 3 Jazz ruining Honda's reputation and sadly you're adding evidence to that.

Can't really comment about your Bluetooth issue (apart from wondering why, if it's a phone problem, it would work for a few calls but not thereafter). But with regard to this:
The phone issues are only the tip of the iceberg, the car has been throwing up various spurious warnings with its driver safety aids (parking sensors, auto start stop, crash avoidance etc) it has been back to the dealer 5 or 6 times since mid June. Not what I would expect from Honda. I was initially told the issues I was having was due to the exceptionally high temperatures we were having, now it has cooled down things are much better.
I can say that the hot weather has not caused any such issues with my car, the dealer appears to be telling you porkies. If he insists on telling you the car can't cope with hot weather, get him to put it in writing, then you would have evidence that the car is not fit for purpose (should you get into the unfortunate situation of thinking about rejecting it :().

The systems you mention do have their quirks that surprised me at first:
- The parking sensors are very sensitive and start shouting at you when you're still a safe distance from any obstructions. I frequently have to parallel-park into small spaces and can have both front & rear sensors sounding off simultaneously, so I then have to turn the cacophony off, which kind of defeats the object.
- The auto stop-start has so many safeguards that inhibit it, that it's often difficult to understand why it's not working. Check the handbook for a full list, but it includes such esoteric items as the ventilation being set to "screen", and limits on battery internal temperature.
- "Crash Avoidance": if you mean the Forward Collision Warning (as distinct from the City Brake Active) then I find there are circumstances when that false-alarms if there's an obstruction in the camera's field of view. Eg a parked car on the nearside of a RH bend, or an oncoming car on a LH bend, or if you're moving up into an overtake position. None of those are impending collisions but the system can think they are so sometimes sounds off unnecessarily.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Problem of poor sensitivity of audio touch screen
« Last post by Kenneve on August 12, 2018, 10:44:29 AM »
Hi Andruec

Many thanks for your reply, I had naively thought it might be possible to download the program from the Info Unit and make a simple change, which basically says the 'OK' button has been pressed. Obviously there is far more to it then that.

My only programming experience goes back to the early 1990s when I programmed CNC machine tools, using 'G' codes etc, on Fanuc and Siemens controllers. Had to be very careful not to miss out the 'G1' code (feed), after previously using the 'G0 code (fast traverse)!!!!

Has anyone asked Honda, why they insist on the requirement to confirm the safety notice every time you start the car?
I suppose it's another edict/regulation from the EU. Sooner we are out the better!!
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