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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by JimSh on January 18, 2019, 08:32:43 PM »

As I said earlier,  we are leading the charge with Brexit,  most EU member governments will not give their population a referendum because they could very well vote to leave,  anti-EU ( the political bit ) feeling is running very high amongst members and a lot of countries are envious of UK democratic vote and looking to us for leadership.  Brexit vote is the tip of an iceberg much larger than the one that sunk the Titanic.

Wow. As I have said before I think we live in parallel universes.
Your last sentence may be correct but I suspect not in the way you intended.
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by Barky on January 18, 2019, 07:37:07 PM »
As I have previously said. the EU were, and still are constrained by their four freedoms and could not move from that.
This could have been predicted by the UK politicians. In hindsight big mistakes were made in calling a referendum in the first place and in activating article 50

As I said EU are in a political straitjacket of their own making - they have gone from a trading bloc to a political monster - that was their mistake. 

There was pretty much a unanimous vote by MP to trigger article 50, and for any MP to try and block leaving after voting to trigger art 50 is unforgivable....

The UK vote as a bloc,  not as individual nations in the 2016 referendum,  fishing has always been a big part of Scottish economy and the only way to get their fishing waters back is to leave EU ( whatever Sturgeon says).

As I said earlier,  we are leading the charge with Brexit,  most EU member governments will not give their population a referendum because they could very well vote to leave,  anti-EU ( the political bit ) feeling is running very high amongst members and a lot of countries are envious of UK democratic vote and looking to us for leadership.  Brexit vote is the tip of an iceberg much larger than the one that sunk the Titanic.
not sure where you get yer info but it's very muddled looking to me .. obviously not worth trying to explain in detail as you seem sure of what you post up but IF brexit happens (& it is still IF) you are likely in for shock/disappointment ... will leave you to it ....
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by culzean on January 18, 2019, 07:15:10 PM »
As I have previously said. the EU were, and still are constrained by their four freedoms and could not move from that.
This could have been predicted by the UK politicians. In hindsight big mistakes were made in calling a referendum in the first place and in activating article 50

As I said EU are in a political straitjacket of their own making - they have gone from a trading bloc to a political monster - that was their mistake. 

There was pretty much a unanimous vote by MP to trigger article 50, and for any MP to try and block leaving after voting to trigger art 50 is unforgivable....

The UK vote as a bloc,  not as individual nations in the 2016 referendum,  fishing has always been a big part of Scottish economy and the only way to get their fishing waters back is to leave EU ( whatever Sturgeon says).

As I said earlier,  we are leading the charge with Brexit,  most EU member governments will not give their population a referendum because they could very well vote to leave,  anti-EU ( the political bit ) feeling is running very high amongst members and a lot of countries are envious of UK democratic vote and looking to us for leadership.  Brexit vote is the tip of an iceberg much larger than the one that sunk the Titanic.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Tyre Pressure warnings....danger of crying wolf too often
« Last post by culzean on January 18, 2019, 07:01:59 PM »
In general terms - I would much prefer a full tyre pressure monitoring system with a sensor on each wheel. The one on my daughter's car - a Qashqai - actually shows the pressure per tyre on the dash. They are not without problems in that the batteries in the sensors fail and then it can be quite expensive (or so I've heard). The Honda system seems a cheap fix to comply with various laws.

My brother found out how expensive the pressure sensor system can be when he wanted winter tyres on his Vitara,  had to buy 4 new sensors for new wheels and has to get system reprogrammed twice a year as the system can only remember 4 sensors at a time,  also if you have to fit spare wheel you get an alarm until you fit proper wheel back on - I know which system I prefer.....
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by culzean on January 18, 2019, 06:56:00 PM »
Let's face it, the only reason the leave campaign won was that a lot of people believed we would have an extra 350 million a week to prop up the NHS.

Has anyone seen any figures what Brexit has actually cost so far, including the thousands of civil servants working on legislation, the fall in the FTSE and the Pound, the number of jobs lost ?

You really are being condescending to leave voters now, politicians tell porkies all the time and nobody that I know was taken in by that supposed extra money.

 I see the electoral commission had to back down over the Leave campaign prosecution as well when it turned out that vote leave had asked the question about transfer of funds and had been told it was OK,  so they had egg all over their smug remain supporting faces ( hint - EC are supposed to be neutral but most of their top echelon were outed as ardent remainers ).

As for jobs,  project fear told us we would have rocketing unemployment if we dared vote to leave,  and the very opposite happened ,  whatever few thousand jobs we have lost recently ( which probably have no link to Brexit) you have to subtract them from +800,000 we gained since June 2016.
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Dealer error, will they do the honourable thing?
« Last post by Rory on January 18, 2019, 05:12:22 PM »
quote author=sparky Paul link=topic=10810.msg67252#msg67252 date=1547765429]
What concerned me more about garages, including main dealers I have used, is when the box is ticked and the work not done.
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One of the times I took our Jazz for service I'm 99% sure it hadn't moved - it was still parked in the same space and at the same jaunty angle as I left it.  Doing a few K miles per year the oil stays so clean I couldn't tell if it was new or not.

I queried why brake fluid change hadn't been ticked on a VW we used to have, when it should have been done as part of the service plan, so the service advisor ticked it!  To be fair, the same happened at the indie we subsequently used, but they went to some effort to assure me it had been done.
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by ColinS on January 18, 2019, 05:05:06 PM »
Let's face it, the only reason the leave campaign won was that a lot of people believed we would have an extra 350 million a week to prop up the NHS.
Not true.  One would have to be pretty short sighted to let this be the only reason.

I think the primary reasons were to regain control over borders and laws.

We had never lost control of our borders and laws.
Laughs Out Loud
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by JimSh on January 18, 2019, 04:41:25 PM »
Let's face it, the only reason the leave campaign won was that a lot of people believed we would have an extra 350 million a week to prop up the NHS.
Not true.  One would have to be pretty short sighted to let this be the only reason.

I think the primary reasons were to regain control over borders and laws.

We had never lost control of our borders and laws.
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by JimSh on January 18, 2019, 04:38:45 PM »
Let's face it, the only reason the leave campaign won was that a lot of people believed we would have an extra 350 million a week to prop up the NHS.

Has anyone seen any figures what Brexit has actually cost so far, including the thousands of civil servants working on legislation, the fall in the FTSE and the Pound, the number of jobs lost ?



According to the Express 500m per week.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1045243/Brexit-cost-how-much-has-brexit-cost-uk-june-2018-500-million-pounds-a-week
The article was dated last November and according to the title refers to last June. certainly before they ramped up our necessary precautions for a no deal Brexit like simulating traffic jams in SE England with empty lorries and hiring ferries from non-existent companies.
 Don't know if it would include all the man hours involved in stockpiling food and drugs.
Seems strange that the Express would publish this. Wouldn't this money have been better spent on the NHS?
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by ColinS on January 18, 2019, 04:20:48 PM »
Let's face it, the only reason the leave campaign won was that a lot of people believed we would have an extra 350 million a week to prop up the NHS.
Not true.  One would have to be pretty short sighted to let this be the only reason.

I think the primary reasons were to regain control over borders and laws.
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