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Other Hondas & General Topics => Honda & Other Honda Models => Topic started by: Jocko on January 21, 2019, 04:29:45 PM
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Honda sent me a link to this publication.
https://www.hondaengineroom.co.uk/world/electric-cars-a-quiet-revolution/index.html?one-tid=9cdfeced-9aae-0d2e-6ad9-c054cfe84bb3 (https://www.hondaengineroom.co.uk/world/electric-cars-a-quiet-revolution/index.html?one-tid=9cdfeced-9aae-0d2e-6ad9-c054cfe84bb3)
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I see the Honda Urban EV has been voted the Most Anticipated Launch of 2019, by readers of "What Car?".
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I see the Honda Urban EV has been voted the Most Anticipated Launch of 2019, by readers of "What Car?".
I wait to see if it fufills expectations and has an affordable price tag. Four years ago the HR-V was given that accolade https://www.whatcar.com/news/honda-hr-v-wins-the-2015-what-car-reader-award/n11016 (https://www.whatcar.com/news/honda-hr-v-wins-the-2015-what-car-reader-award/n11016) and proved to be a non-event (due to a combination of pricing, availablity and Mexican build quality). I hope the EV fares better. Honda needs to remind people that it's capable of producing excellent vehicles.
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The article hints at 100 mile range, I won't be going EV until they have a 300 mile range. There's also a Hybrid CRV but the fuel economy isn't great for a hybrid, they need to up the game a little.
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The article hints at 100 mile range
Is that the What Car article? The Honda link states that range has not been announced. 100 miles would be rubbish. None of the latest EVs are anywhere like as low as that. Perhaps Honda have shot themselves in the foot!
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Is that the What Car article? The Honda link states that range has not been announced. 100 miles would be rubbish. None of the latest EVs are anywhere like as low as that. Perhaps Honda have shot themselves in the foot!
Given that it's got "Urban" in the name I would have thought a 100 mile range would be more than adequate for the target market. More range = more battery = more cost and more weight.
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Is that the What Car article? The Honda link states that range has not been announced. 100 miles would be rubbish. None of the latest EVs are anywhere like as low as that. Perhaps Honda have shot themselves in the foot!
Given that it's got "Urban" in the name I would have thought a 100 mile range would be more than adequate for the target market. More range = more battery = more cost and more weight.
That's a good point. There will be - sorry there is - a market for short range EVs and this is shown by the very steady prices for 24 kwh Nissan Leafs. I've been following this market for a while and the initial steep depreciation for these vehicles has levelled off and they are hardly depreciating at all now. What people are latching on to is the "ideal second car" concept and a shortish range EV is, indeed, the ideal second car. 75 to 80 miles more than enough for school runs/shopping/garden centre etc etc.
So we may get a 2 tier EV market emerging with long distance vehicles coming on stream but shorter range and cheaper offerings will have a market.
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Is that the What Car article? The Honda link states that range has not been announced. 100 miles would be rubbish. None of the latest EVs are anywhere like as low as that. Perhaps Honda have shot themselves in the foot!
Given that it's got "Urban" in the name I would have thought a 100 mile range would be more than adequate for the target market. More range = more battery = more cost and more weight.
I'll grant you that. Just hope, for Honda's sake, that they price it competitively. As a second car it will have to compete with Fiestas, Micras and the like. I know it will carry an EV premium, but it cannot hope to compete unless it undercuts the new Leaf, Zoe and other longer range but small EVs.
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Honda just sent me these pictures. Car will be unveiled at Geneva on 5th March.
(https://i.imgur.com/KfOvvhp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xEFUJ9a.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/i0nYzvQ.jpg)
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I reversed the interior for UK viewers.
(https://i.imgur.com/73AYvNN.jpg)
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How did you do that? ??? ??? ???
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Well that's me out. The outside is great but the inside looks like a throwback to the seventies with that Mini steering wheel and the formica trim. Yuck.
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How did you do that? ??? ??? ???
2 minutes with Photoshop.
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Whole thing looks too retro for my taste.
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Reminds me of the 205 from the rear.
(https://www.autopista.es/media/cache/big/upload/images/article/116138/article-peugeot-205-gti-prueba-original-1987-5925600bb977b.jpg)
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I can see that. I was thinking Mk.1 Golf on the outside and (original) Mini Clubman on the inside.
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I think the white colour adds to making it reminiscant of early golfs and 205s, if it were in a more 1970s yellow or orange I'd imagine it would seem a lot more like an early civic. I really enjoyed that video Jocko, so thanks. It'll be interesting to see what colours they introduce, modern or retro.
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I have watched the video a couple of times now and I love everything about it. Rear wheel drive (like real cars), tight turning circle for city driving (like a black cab - or a Triumph Herald), real switches, wheels designed to protect the discs from dirt (since regenerative braking means discs are not used as much as on a conventional car), and 10 cm bigger than a Jazz. Only thing that will stop me ordering one will be the price! Cannot image it being competitive with the Zoe or Leaf.
(https://i.imgur.com/4YztfHB.jpg)
Triumph Herald had a 25 ft turning circle.
Jazz is 35 feet.
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If the Herald suspension was anything like the Spitfire's, I would not be such a great fan. The splayed rear wheels must have seemed like a good idea at the time!
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If the Herald suspension was anything like the Spitfire's, I would not be such a great fan. The splayed rear wheels must have seemed like a good idea at the time!
IIRC it was same chassis, the Vitesse was dangerous with a two litre engine and the same chassis as the Herald.. Had the misfortune to drive a Spitfire a couple of times, just like riding on a plank.
You could roll the front tyres off a Herald if you were going too fast and used full lock, but it could turn on a sixpence.
Rear wheel drive allows a smaller turning radius because you don't have to worry about drive shafts and CV joints on front wheels, but then again rear wheel steering is fun ( have you ever driven a fork lift truck or dumper ? )
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We had two factories, three quarter of a mile apart on an industrial estate. Two or three of us drove the forklift between the two and the object of the game was to drive between the two, flat out, with a driver and someone riding shotgun. It was a big diesel truck, about this size,
(https://i2.wp.com/skembedjis.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/NISSAN-used-diesel-forklift-cyprus-VF05E300074-side.jpg?resize=300%2C225&ssl=1)
but now I think about it, we were lunatics.
Health and Safety was not a principle back then!!
Skip sliding the thing round 90° bends. Asking for a manslaughter charge.
Another job I worked in we used to RACE dumpers round a big hanger, in and out the supporting pillars. Great way to end the shift.
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Tesla Model 3 to sell for £26,400 in the US. Wonder if Honda will be able to beat that for their new EV?
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47410636 (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47410636)