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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: 08 CVT-7 Jazz Mk1 - Good buy?
« Last post by Jocko on Today at 09:54:23 AM »
More than once I have been on websites to buy stuff but only got as far as putting stuff in the basket, within a couple of days most of the sellers contacted me offering 10 or 15% discount on the stuff - always worth a try LOL
Years ago I sent off for a Linguaphone demo (it was a record, so that gives you an idea just how long ago it was). The course was about 300, to much for my pocket back then, but over the next two or thee years they kept offering me a reduced price until it got down to 50.
Not a lot of good when buying a car though!

What you can do is say, Too expensive, but I'll give you my phone number in case you decide to accept my offer. If he gets no takers, he may get back to you.
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: 08 CVT-7 Jazz Mk1 - Good buy?
« Last post by culzean on Today at 09:43:08 AM »
Highest price on Parkers seems to be 3665 but you'd have to do a full search below to be sure.

https://www.parkers.co.uk/honda/jazz/hatchback-2002/used-prices/

The truth is if someone has something people want and there aren't many of them around someone will pay asking price.  It is always a mistake to look too interested in something being sold and if a potential buyer keeps going back / contacting seller trying to knock price down it is definitely showing you are interested.   

More than once I have been on websites to buy stuff but only got as far as putting stuff in the basket, within a couple of days most of the sellers contacted me offering 10 or 15% discount on the stuff - always worth a try LOL
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: Traffic Management.
« Last post by culzean on Today at 09:33:59 AM »
A few months ago by us BT Openreach decided they needed to do some work right next (within 50 metres) to a busy traffic light controlled junction, although they were working on the pavement and their vans were parked off the road the other side of pavement they coned off the road down to one lane and installed their own traffic lights which were in no way synchronised with the main lights (actually it would have been pretty impossible to synchronise them), nothing was happening in the lane they coned off, I think they refer to it in H&S speak as a 'buffer' zone.  The result was absolute traffic chaos for 12 hours,  where people going across main lights on green were immediately stopped by BT lights so junction was blocked, and people getting a green light from BT were immediately stopped by main traffic lights - blocking up the single lane that was available,  It took us a good 30 to 40 minutes to get across junction and traffic must have been backed up for miles in every direction.   I would be happy for contractors to have 15mph limit past where they are working and portable speed cameras to enforce limit,  but nowadays roads seem to get blocked off regularly even when people are working on pavement. 

I know pedestrians have rights,  but who walks anywhere these days anyway, and it would have been much easier to re-route (very few) pedestrians than logjam the traffic on two main roads.
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: 08 CVT-7 Jazz Mk1 - Good buy?
« Last post by culzean on Today at 09:10:11 AM »
It drove smooth as well, gear changes took some attention to even detect, even when I purposely tried to confuse it which is a far cry from my golf even after the gearbox was replaced. I'm very impressed in that department too.
The CVT is a stepless 'continuously variable transmission'. There are no gears as such so the transmission would appear to be very smooth.

Vic.

pretty good explanation of CVT (which has been around for ever but recent electronics have made it behave better).

https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/continuously-variable-transmission-explained/
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Traffic Management.
« Last post by Jocko on Today at 06:57:47 AM »
Kirkcaldy always seems to have some traffic management in place for road works, cable repairs, or as is the case at the moment, a large resurfacing scheme. Where ever it is it always seems to impinge on my route back and forward to my wife's work, at the local hospital. Yesterday they closed an area of the town, a main bus route, and they have put in three-way traffic lights (always a headache) at a major junction. However, the real PITA is that on the main road that bypasses the works, they have put up a Diversion direction sign, standing in the road, and effectively blocking one carriageway. At 06:30 the traffic was queuing to get past it. What it will be like come rush hour (08:00 until 18:00 hereabouts) is anyone's guess. Now I understand why they couldn't put it on the pavement, as it would totally block pedestrian access, but the issue is why it is there at all. The sign tells drivers using the diversion to go straight on, when there is no option otherwise!
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: 08 CVT-7 Jazz Mk1 - Good buy?
« Last post by sparky Paul on Today at 12:40:39 AM »

Not very sure how good this guide is for valuation for some older versions, but atleast seems to be giving fairly realistic prices for some newer jazz's in my view. According to this the target price to buy for your car if I have got it right should only be 1.5k which seems a bit unrealistic..Maybe you should show the salesman this to get your view across for a significant discount and see what happens   ;)

http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/index.jsp?guide=prices&page=used_cars&no=3&make=Honda&model=Jazz+%282002-09%29&vip=18683&yearplate=2008%2F08&mileage=30&x=35&y=4

Well, if it's anything to go on, I bought our 08 plate manual in June of last year and just punched in some details to see what happened... I selected a 6 month newer plate, and the exact mileage, and the trade valuation was about bang on what I paid. However, I thought it was a steal - the next cheapest 08 I could find at the time was over twice the price I paid.

That said, the valuation above does feel very low for a good condition, very low mileage CVT. Judging by the prices I've seen, if the car was as good as it looked, my initial gut feeling was around 3500 or so... so more or less the same as your thoughts.

To the OP, I think that RS's advice above is sound - bid the dealer what you think the car is worth and be prepared to walk away. Don't be afraid to insult the dealer with a cheeky offer, he will have heard it all before and will still want to sell you a car. The dealer will know his lowest price, he will know what the car owes him, and he will know how long it has sat there unsold. On the other hand, he will also want to push you for as much as he can get, even if it's only another 25 or 50 - it's all extra profit to him.

Bottom line is, if he wants more than you are prepared to pay, then you wont do a deal - it's as simple as that.

The best deals always come to those who are prepared to wait. If you must buy a car soon, that can affect your judgement somewhat, and for many people, haggling is an uncomfortable process they want done with.
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: 08 CVT-7 Jazz Mk1 - Good buy?
« Last post by zzaj on January 17, 2018, 10:03:32 PM »
Highest price on Parkers seems to be 3665 but you'd have to do a full search below to be sure.

https://www.parkers.co.uk/honda/jazz/hatchback-2002/used-prices/
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New Members / Re: New to the forum
« Last post by Jocko on January 17, 2018, 09:39:11 PM »
Welcome. Plenty good chat here.
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: 08 CVT-7 Jazz Mk1 - Good buy?
« Last post by RScorpio on January 17, 2018, 08:33:17 PM »

Hit a road block when trying to cut a deal though. The salesman didn't want to know. He had the autotrader valuation all queued up and ready to "prove" that it was worth the full 4495. I had already seen that and noted that of all the free valuation tools I tried, autotraders came out the most expensive by a few hundred quid. The most I could get out of the guy was that he wouldn't let it go for anything that wasn't in the 4s. So I told him I was going to see another car (the 07 sport model ) and left for now.



Not very sure how good this guide is for valuation for some older versions, but atleast seems to be giving fairly realistic prices for some newer jazz's in my view. According to this the target price to buy for your car if I have got it right should only be 1.5k which seems a bit unrealistic..Maybe you should show the salesman this to get your view across for a significant discount and see what happens   ;)

http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/index.jsp?guide=prices&page=used_cars&no=3&make=Honda&model=Jazz+%282002-09%29&vip=18683&yearplate=2008%2F08&mileage=30&x=35&y=4

I would think getting the car for about 3500-3700 would be a good price considering the low mileage, but may require some patience with a low offer put in and some wait and watch for a few days assuming no one picks it up with a higher offer.
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New Members / Re: New to the forum
« Last post by Tunnelboy on January 17, 2018, 07:59:36 PM »
Hi new to the forum and just got my self a 2014 Jazz SI in white and looking forward to joining in on the forum.
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