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Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« on: December 04, 2017, 02:08:07 PM »
Hiya all

I am looking for an aftermarket air cleaner element that will suit my little Jazz but I'm gobsmacked because it is not of the conventional 4 sided element. I tried asking around online suppliers and even K&N but none of them have any. I finally found a genuine Honda part from Cox Motor Parts and was quoted around £27 from them. Anyone with any experience where I can find a cheaper aftermarket model?

Please see attached photo - it has the markings PP-TD30K and ACE75 on it.
Thanks in advance x
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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2017, 02:46:53 PM »
If the photograph is of your air filter I would say it doesn't need changed.

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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2017, 02:51:53 PM »
Hi Jocko

Thanks, I actually used an air blower to clean it up a bit more just to be sure ;D
Just wanted to prepare for the future, probably by next service.  ;)

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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2017, 12:31:31 AM »
I use Eurocarparts.com

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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2017, 08:47:48 AM »
Have found Opie oils to be a good source of most service parts at decent prices (and also oil - hence their name LOL).

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/

But that air filter of yours is a weird shape...
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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2017, 09:36:27 AM »
Dont recognise the a/c from a Mk2 Jazz, is your car an import?

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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2017, 09:43:03 AM »
It appears to be a Civic unit. Perhaps some enthusiast has fitted it as an upgrade, sometime in the past! It is a K&N part, as far as I can see. Perhaps one of the Civic owners will suggest a spares supplier.

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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2017, 09:53:04 AM »
It appears to be a Civic unit. Perhaps some enthusiast has fitted it as an upgrade, sometime in the past! It is a K&N part, as far as I can see. Perhaps one of the Civic owners will suggest a spares supplier.

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/pv-139338-mahle-air-filter-lx2647-lx-2647-genuine-part-honda-civix-ix-viii-14-single.aspx

Filter size is (ignoring cut-off corner)
length  199mm
width   168mm
depth   46mm

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-2701-lookup-results.aspx?vehicleid=21514&variantlist=70944:0,90963:0,139338:0,134058:0,212150:1441199,213394:1454679,212689:1449549&yearFilter=2011


Update..
Actually having looked more closely - the Civic filter only has one angled corner,  that has two ...........
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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2017, 12:23:48 PM »
The Honda part number is 17220-RC7-E01 and it looks like there's no aftermarket part for this part. I came across the same question for this part on a German forum and they also didn't find any.


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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2017, 10:16:55 PM »
Dont recognise the a/c from a Mk2 Jazz, is your car an import?

I don’t believe so, believe it was made in the UK. I read on the Wikipedia that “Production of the Jazz for European markets moved from Japan to Honda's UK plant in Swindon on 7 October 2009.”

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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2017, 10:23:23 PM »
The Honda part number is 17220-RC7-E01 and it looks like there's no aftermarket part for this part. I came across the same question for this part on a German forum and they also didn't find any.

Thanks you. Any way to find out why some Mk2 models have this weird shaped filter? Mine is a 1.2 litre Stop Start model, Type GG5, Variant 4, Version 2. Not sure if this info is of any help! Perhaps it has to do with the stop start?
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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2017, 10:30:31 PM »
Dont recognise the a/c from a Mk2 Jazz, is your car an import?

I don’t believe so, believe it was made in the UK. I read on the Wikipedia that “Production of the Jazz for European markets moved from Japan to Honda's UK plant in Swindon on 7 October 2009.”

Check your VIN against this list

https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=5402.msg24278#msg24278
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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2017, 10:45:39 PM »
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Check your VIN against this list
https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=5402.msg24278#msg24278

Thank you! I also checked https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=6544.msg28070#msg28070. Eddie Honda confirmed my VIN starting SHH was from the Swindon factory.  ;)

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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2017, 09:45:05 AM »
As I said earlier, it looks like the air cleaner (complete) has been swapped with one from a Civic. If that is the case you will have to buy the Civic filter element.

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Re: Air Cleaner Element / Air Filter
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2017, 11:31:47 AM »
I would recommend OPIE oils for parts as well as oil for your Jazz  , you can wait nearer the time of your next service & buy a new filter. As regards a performance filter I have had one and notice very little difference apart from cleaning every 50k miles.
I would also take alook at Redex treatment if you Jazz has been running on unleaded try a plastic bottle of Redex in your tank, I buy from either Wilko's or Halfords they often have offers. I use Redex in customers petrol cars & Millers deisel additive in old & new deisel vehicles.One treatment every couple of years even better just before the  MOT.
http://www.wilko.com/car-maintenance-products/redex-petrol-system-cleaner-4pk/invt/0427249   this is 1litre in 250ml x 4
or
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/engine-oils-fluids/fuel-oil-additives/redex-petrol-injector-cleaner-500ml

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