Alarm question

[guest5697]

Hi all.

Got a Jazz 2011 EX that got broken into so I've got a question about the alarm...

Rear window got smashed but alarm didn't go off.  I'm just wondering if there was a way to turn it on / off because I assumed that it was on once I lock the doors with the remote. Only time I've ever heard the alarm is the one time I locked the doors with the remote whilst I was sitting in the car.  Hope someone can give some insight. 

Thanks! 

[culzean]

if ultrasonic sensor is mounted in front interior light cluster it won't cover rear of car,  and if door was not opened the door switch would not trigger alarm either (was car double locked (or 'superlocked' as Honda call it) - with 2 presses of locking button on remote within 5 seconds,  in which case doors cannot be unlocked even using interior door handles, or even the door key as alarm will go off).

[applicationcen]

Sorry to hear your car got damaged.

[guest5079]

A while back I wanted to check on what alarm was fitted to our 2010 Jazz 1.4 I shift EX  as I could find no alarm code in the book supplied.
On checking I was a little surprised to find that UK Honda Jazz are only fitted with a Thatcham Category 2 Electronic immobiliser.  This is approved by the Insurers. On searching this is a precis of what the RAC state. Cat 2 electronic  immobiliser has to isolate at least two circuits or systems.  Only a Cat 1 or 2/1 is an alarm
I will admit I was a little disappointed that my Jazz had no alarm.
I have checked a list of what is fitted to what and according to the list only Civic type R, Accords and I think HRV plus others  in the posh end, I didn't write down all the list, are   fitted with a Cat 1.
Since 2002 the Jazz has only been fitted with a Cat 2. Does anyone know of an approved upgrade?
Please don't shoot the messenger but it seems that the Cat 2 is acceptable because the Honda Jazz doesn't get broken into!!!!!!!!! Yes, Derren can prove the lie to that one.

[John Ratsey]

The alarm provision in the Jazz seems to have changed in the past few years. I have a Jazz brochure from 2011 which only lists the immobiliser and super locks with no mention of any alarm while I have a PDF with the specs for a 2013 ES Plus which includes "Perimeter security alarm".  A brochure from earlier this year also shows the alarm for ES Plus, Si and Ex but not the S and SE. It appears that the alarm may have been added to some models in about 2012.

On the Mk 3 Jazz, the SE and EX have "Security alarm system" but not the S.

[Hobo]

My ES Plus definitely has an alarm system, in the handbook it is referred to as a Security System, there is an indicator on the dash which blinks to tell you it is set, if you unlock the front door using the key instead of using the remote transmitter on the key fob the alarm goes off. 

[guest5185]

I presumed mine had an alarm but according to 2009 Brochure it is a "Rolling code ECU engine immobiliser" ...

[culzean]

Attached is a picture of ultrasonic alarm sensors mounted on Civic front interior light panel.

Assume this would be same on Jazz,  the sensors definitely protrude from the housing and are very visible.

All Honda cars have a good rolling code immobiliser and probably an alarm when door switches activate or if the door is opened with a key when security has been set with key fob, but i suspect very few have ultrasonic sensors.

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[VicW]

 I am on my fourth Jazz, all SE or ES models and none have had an alarm, only an immobiliser.

Vic.

[bill ericay]

My 2012 ES has a perimeter alarm fitted as standard. No sensors inside , so no resistance to 'smash and grab'.
As with the civic, only reset with fob, so trying to open the door with the key with alarm set triggers alarm.
As far as I know, alarm covers all doors, boot and bonnet.

[John Ratsey]

My 2012 ES has a perimeter alarm fitted as standard. No sensors inside , so no resistance to 'smash and grab'.
As with the civic, only reset with fob, so trying to open the door with the key with alarm set triggers alarm.
As far as I know, alarm covers all doors, boot and bonnet.

I've just looked in the handbook and it's the same on the Mk 3 Jazz: It says "The security system alarm activates when the doors, tailgate or bonnet are opened."

[guest5697]

Thanks for the replies.  Interesting.  Must be an ultrasonic alarm for inside on the front only then. 

I didn't know about the Super Lock with two presses.

Does that mean single-press lock means the doors can still open from the inside?  Something I can try I guess.

[guest5251]

Thanks for the replies.  Interesting.  Must be an ultrasonic alarm for inside on the front only then. 

I didn't know about the Super Lock with two presses.

Does that mean single-press lock means the doors can still open from the inside?  Something I can try I guess.

by pressing the lock button twice you double lock, meaning the doors cannot be opened from the inside by pulling the handle or flicking the unlock button,so if someone broke into your car climbed through the window the window would be the only escape route for them

[guest5697]

Thanks for clarification.

Makes single lock sound pointless then. If someone can break the window, reach in and open the door...  I didn't even know I did super lock.  They really should have fitted rear sensors as well so the alarm would go off...  =\

[Hobo]

They really should have fitted rear sensors as well so the alarm would go off...  =\

Not sure what you mean by that but according to my owners manual once the system is set opening any door or the tailgate without using the remote transmitter or the bonnet will set the alarm off, also if the audio unit is removed from the dashboard or the wiring is cut.