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Diagnostics, Tuning, Modifications and Maintenance - all Hondas => Car Care & Detailing => Topic started by: Aitcho on June 06, 2011, 04:01:34 PM
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Does Supagard protect the paintwork as claimed in their advertising literature?
In a few months time I will be taking delivery of a new Jazz and would like to have the paintwork protected using one of the numerous products that are on the market, I know that a dealer price for applying Supagard is what I consider to be high.
A local car valeting service offers Supagard, Diamond Brite and Autoglym Lifeshine products and their charges for treating a car are very fair nothing like a main car dealership.
Has anyone tried either of the above mentioned products and what do you think of them.
If I have the car treated I would then have the car valeting service clean the exterior of the car on a fortnightly or monthly basis to keep it clean.
Aitcho
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Don't know if that product is a selant, but new paint should not be sealed as it has to 'breathe' for a while.
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Modern paints are OK to seal, especially as it was probably made a good month or so (longer if Japanese made).
I've never thad them but I heard that Autoglym Lifeshine compatible with Autoglym products whereas the use of polishes may damage Supaguard and Diamondbrite.
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Years ago I used Lacro polish then moved to Autoglym, on the new Ex I did the usual Autoglym Super Resin polish .
plus two coats of Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection.
But each coat of Extra Gloss takes an hour to cure in the summer and 2 hours or more to cure in the winter, so I left it on overnight. Results so far spot on. Needless to say the savings over the dealership offer kept me in fuel for several weeks
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Thanks for the replies, I intend to go the AutoGlym route as I've used their products in the post and was very pleased with them.
I will not be letting a main dealer do the job due to their prices! Googling 'AutoGlym valeting services' I was lucky enough to come across a valeting service located a few miles from my home whose staff are
"trained and have passed Auto Glym and Auto Smart course".
In addition they also offer a mobile service if required.
Aitcho
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I had my EX Diamond Brited as part of the purchase deal (it's the fourth Honda I've had treated) and this time Jewelultra Fabric Protector was included.
To maintain the paintwork shine I wash down using Diamondbrite Car Shampoo followed by Diamondbrite Conserver. The shampoo and conserver are supplied when the car is Diamondbrited.
The car has never been through a car wash and it comes up like new every time.
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fwiw, Supagard has been previously mentioned on this forum a few years ago:
http://clubjazz.org/forum/car-care-detailing/anybody-care-to-comment-on-supagard/
I think you can buy it on eBay for a lot less than what dealers like to charge.
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I had my EX Diamond Brited as part of the purchase deal (it's the fourth Honda I've had treated) and this time Jewelultra Fabric Protector was included.
At the moment I am hoping to get a local valeting firm to treat the car with AutoGlym products and then they can clean it every month or so.
Aitcho
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fwiw, Supagard has been previously mentioned on this forum a few years ago:
http://clubjazz.org/forum/car-care-detailing/anybody-care-to-comment-on-supagard/
I think you can buy it on eBay for a lot less than what dealers like to charge.
Thanks for the link I have just read that thread.
I am unable to wax or clean a car so have to rely on a valeting service to do it for me, there is a company near my home who are AutoGlym specialists so when I get the new car will have them do the work.
There are various AutoGlym treatments available so will see what they advise, a number of people seem to like the 'High Definition' wax.
Aitcho
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The car has never been through a car wash and it comes up like new every time.
It goes without saying that this is the single most important factor in keeping the car looking like new. And I doubt any form of paint protection finish would prevent this.
I had a walk around a BMW dealer's used lot a few weeks back, and even with their so-called 'hard' paint finishes there were a number of cars newer than my Jazz and even in a similar (silver) colour with heavy swirling in the paint.
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I wouldn't bother unless it was offered for free or very cheaply.
It is a big money spinner for dealers.
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This is an update to my original post (Protecting paintwork on a new car - posted in June) prompted by an item in 'Honest John's column in the Daily Telegraph (Saturday 19th November 2011).
A reader was asking whether it was worth having his new car treated with the Autoglym 'LifeShine' treatment a service the dealership was offering for the sum of £399.00.
I had my new Jazz undergo the 'LifeShine' treatment at a local Car Valeting company and was delighted with the quality of the work carried out, all the interior was treated and the exterior waxed to a high standard, glass surfaces also came in for special attention. The car looked better than it did when I collected it from the showroom, the 'Lifeshine' treatment cost me £195.00 which I thought was a fairly reasonable price, I also received a complimentary 'Care Kit' in a handy bag containing a variety of Autoglym products in addition there is also the 'Life Time' warranty.
There is an interesting video showing what protection is afforded to the car at:-
http://www.lifeshine.co.uk/
The treatment to my car was carried out in September and in addition I also have a 'Mini Valet' done every month and at the end of six months will have the car waxed again to maintain the high gloss finish.
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Try a new product called Permanon.....www.nanotechsst.co.uk........its wipe on and leave then only wash the car as needed with cold water.....the protection is there to see, windscreen, wheels, engine bay,
It works........just follow the instructtions ...........the secret is the preperation!!
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"Autoglym Lifeshine" is a brilliant product but why pay through the nose for it?
It's readily available on Fleabay at a fraction of the dealer price and it's extremely easy to use. It's only like giving your car a good clean but the results are brilliant.
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When buying my Jazz yesterday I was given quite a high pressure sales pitch on this product and, I seem to remember, I got a similar sales pitch when I bought my Civic.
I use Autoglym products myself and like them but I really struggle to see what exactly is applied to the paint that then lasts for life. My scepticism was further increased when I saw that the pack of products that they give you contains Autoglym Super Resin polish. This is an all in one product that cleans and waxes in one go so why would you need it?
I'm sure the product makes the car look great but would it really last a lifetime? And if you have to keep topping it up, is it really worth it?
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My car has Supergard is ok but not great has soon i can i will buy some car wax from www.bilthamber.co.uk which i already used their product to clean my alloy,bilt hamber is expensive but you pay for quality stuff. :)
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I am also on the Civinfo forum and bilthammer is highly recommended by many of the keen detailers on there.
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These products are only as good as preparation stage before the product is applied.
They do not prevent swirl marks (circular lines noticeable in direct sunlight, especially on dark colours) and scratches that effect the glossy-ness of the paint.
Autoglym Super Resin Polish can 'fill-in' these light defects without damaging the Lifeshine paint protection.
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Both Supagard and Autoglym Lifeshine are excellent. They are both easily found on e***y and are a fraction of the price you would pay to have it done. Especially by the dealers.
You can find them as kits or individual items and using them is just the same as giving your car a good clean and polish. Anyone can do it. So why pay someone when you love to polish your car yourself?
The autoglym polish is different to the super resin polish.
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I wash my car irregularly and then use Aldi's Carnuba wax shampoo : approx £3 for 3 liters. Use a microfiber washing mitt and dry with a synthetic chamois.
What more does a car need?
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Just on madasafish's post above, I was talking to an acquaintance who owns a 9 year old Golf TDI with over 140,000 on the clock. He has had it from new. He is assiduous about maintenance but doesn't extend that to high price car detailing products. He uses just plain water most of the time but does give the car an annual wax/polish after winter. His car looks immaculate.
I've used all sorts of stuff over the years but often wonder if I have fallen for clever marketing.
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It is the sun that oxidises the polish on the paintwork. Seeing in the UK, summer is often postponed (so my cousin in Leicester says), a once a year polish will do
Here it is every 2-3 months, and the difference when the job is done is startling